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sharkie · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:45 PM

Hi

I've a 04 Copper S which I love to death, however I purchased it about 2 months before the 05 Model was shipped and hence I missing out on the extra 7BHP that the 05 Model Produces.

What has BMW mini done to the Power plant to Produce the extra 7BHP.
I assume it's a minor Engine remap i.e. Something that BMW could release as a Firmware Upgrade that could be done next service maybe?

Has anyone asked this before?

What sort of answers did you get?

I can't help feeling I'm missing out on something,

I've be playing with the idea of a superchips remap but If I got down this road It with affect warranty and knowing my luck I will need the day after the upgrade....

Mark

Cooper54 · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:54 PM

BMW will do the 7bhp upgrade for around £300-£350 or you can get a mth remap for £210 which will give 190-200 bhp depending on what mods/fuel you use.

MINI-Morgan · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:59 PM

It alot more than just a remap to an 05 build car. 7hp is nothing in the real world but the new getrag gearbox with better final drive ratio and close gear ratios makes the car finally really come alive.

I would so go get a test drive in a new 05 build MCS and see what you think, but then if you end up loving it then your probably going to have to change.

Paul · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:59 PM

The '05 update power increase is mostly from the ECU, but changes were made to the supercharger, exhaust system, and elsewhere too. The main difference between driving the two though, I would say, is the improved gear ratios of the '05 model onwards compared to the earlier cars.

Fabio · Jan 24th, 2006, 12:10 AM

Hi Sharkie

Welcome to mini2
nice to see some Dubs on the site, theres not too many around here

sharkie · Jan 24th, 2006, 12:10 AM

So the Answer is

Yes BMW Can Remap the ECU ( Cost of a short arm and a leg ) But will I notice the HP increase probably not.

Yes I knew the Gearbox was changed (Shorter Gear Ratios 1st and 2nd ) but not much of an option to upgrade short of a 06 MCS trade in (At this time not much chance of that)

sharkie · Jan 24th, 2006, 12:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio

Hi Sharkie

Welcome to mini2
nice to see some Dubs on the site, theres not too many around here

not a dub anymore a dulchy

Fabio · Jan 24th, 2006, 12:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by sharkie

not a dub anymore a dulchy

excuse my ignorance but whats a dulchy???

St00ge · Jan 24th, 2006, 12:46 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by sharkie

So the Answer is

Yes BMW Can Remap the ECU ( Cost of a short arm and a leg ) But will I notice the HP increase probably not.

Yes I knew the Gearbox was changed (Shorter Gear Ratios 1st and 2nd ) but not much of an option to upgrade short of a 06 MCS trade in (At this time not much chance of that)

all the gear ratios are shortened, exhaust note is better, along with more burble, supercharger has ceramic coated rotors, and ECU is upgraded.

Cooper S Ire · Jan 24th, 2006, 08:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio

excuse my ignorance but whats a dulchy???

DUB + Culchy = Dulchy

Cooper S Ire · Jan 24th, 2006, 08:36 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by sharkie

So the Answer is

Yes BMW Can Remap the ECU ( Cost of a short arm and a leg ) But will I notice the HP increase probably not.

Yes I knew the Gearbox was changed (Shorter Gear Ratios 1st and 2nd ) but not much of an option to upgrade short of a 06 MCS trade in (At this time not much chance of that)

Dont even waste your time/money on a BMW upgrade,
If your interested I have the MTH interface and can flash the ECU for you and the beauty is the dealer wont even know, I have had MTH for a good while now and been to the garage for warranty work no problems.
PM me if your interested.

Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:45 PM	#1
sharkie MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 20 Offline	What's the Difference Between 163BHP and 170BHP Copper S Hi I've a 04 Copper S which I love to death, however I purchased it about 2 months before the 05 Model was shipped and hence I missing out on the extra 7BHP that the 05 Model Produces. What has BMW mini done to the Power plant to Produce the extra 7BHP. I assume it's a minor Engine remap i.e. Something that BMW could release as a Firmware Upgrade that could be done next service maybe? Has anyone asked this before? What sort of answers did you get? I can't help feeling I'm missing out on something, I've be playing with the idea of a superchips remap but If I got down this road It with affect warranty and knowing my luck I will need the day after the upgrade.... Mark

Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	It alot more than just a remap to an 05 build car. 7hp is nothing in the real world but the new getrag gearbox with better final drive ratio and close gear ratios makes the car finally really come alive. I would so go get a test drive in a new 05 build MCS and see what you think, but then if you end up loving it then your probably going to have to change. One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

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Fabio F43i0 My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Hi Sharkie Welcome to mini2 nice to see some Dubs on the site, theres not too many around here Christmas Sweaters !

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Fabio F43i0 My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sharkie not a dub anymore a dulchy excuse my ignorance but whats a dulchy??? Christmas Sweaters !

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Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cooper54 Lightweight Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Essex Local Time: 10:32 PM Posts: 403 Offline	BMW will do the 7bhp upgrade for around £300-£350 or you can get a mth remap for £210 which will give 190-200 bhp depending on what mods/fuel you use.

Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 40,354 Online	The '05 update power increase is mostly from the ECU, but changes were made to the supercharger, exhaust system, and elsewhere too. The main difference between driving the two though, I would say, is the improved gear ratios of the '05 model onwards compared to the earlier cars.

Jan 24th, 2006, 12:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
sharkie MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 20 Offline	So the Answer is Yes BMW Can Remap the ECU ( Cost of a short arm and a leg ) But will I notice the HP increase probably not. Yes I knew the Gearbox was changed (Shorter Gear Ratios 1st and 2nd ) but not much of an option to upgrade short of a 06 MCS trade in (At this time not much chance of that)

Jan 24th, 2006, 12:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
sharkie MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 20 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio Hi Sharkie Welcome to mini2 nice to see some Dubs on the site, theres not too many around here not a dub anymore a dulchy

Jan 24th, 2006, 12:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:32 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sharkie So the Answer is Yes BMW Can Remap the ECU ( Cost of a short arm and a leg ) But will I notice the HP increase probably not. Yes I knew the Gearbox was changed (Shorter Gear Ratios 1st and 2nd ) but not much of an option to upgrade short of a 06 MCS trade in (At this time not much chance of that) all the gear ratios are shortened, exhaust note is better, along with more burble, supercharger has ceramic coated rotors, and ECU is upgraded.

Jan 24th, 2006, 08:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Cooper S Ire MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kildare Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 162 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio excuse my ignorance but whats a dulchy??? DUB + Culchy = Dulchy

Jan 24th, 2006, 08:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
Cooper S Ire MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kildare Local Time: 09:32 PM Posts: 162 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sharkie So the Answer is Yes BMW Can Remap the ECU ( Cost of a short arm and a leg ) But will I notice the HP increase probably not. Yes I knew the Gearbox was changed (Shorter Gear Ratios 1st and 2nd ) but not much of an option to upgrade short of a 06 MCS trade in (At this time not much chance of that) Dont even waste your time/money on a BMW upgrade, If your interested I have the MTH interface and can flash the ECU for you and the beauty is the dealer wont even know, I have had MTH for a good while now and been to the garage for warranty work no problems. PM me if your interested.

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