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andybell18 · Jan 27th, 2006, 09:05 AM

Recently purchased a Mini Cooper S, is there any benefits from filling my motor with Optimax compared to normal 95 unleaded? Will I get better performance and more importantly better miles to the gallon?

KPKalle · Jan 27th, 2006, 09:10 AM

I've moved your thread to the Engine & Drivetrain Tuning section. If you search here you'll find a lot of discussion on the subject

In general though you should get better performance. As regards economy, I've heard arguments both ways although in my Cooper I do get better mileage.

Oh and welcome to MINI2

stealth haggis · Jan 27th, 2006, 03:49 PM

i get better milage and engine just runs a bit nicer on optimax i think

RedUn · Jan 27th, 2006, 06:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by andybell18

Recently purchased a Mini Cooper S, is there any benefits from filling my motor with Optimax compared to normal 95 unleaded? Will I get better performance and more importantly better miles to the gallon?

more power and increased exhaust popping

Roofas · Jan 27th, 2006, 06:58 PM

better performance and little or no stutter stutter bump bump when it's dead cold

L14MWY · Jan 27th, 2006, 08:29 PM

any proof of miles per gallon increasE?

parsey83 · Jan 28th, 2006, 04:34 PM

slightly more responsive on the higher octane with more popping from the exhaust (worth it in itself), i have found you need to run about two tanks through to let the ecu adjust to the fuel, u could reset the ecu, this is quite simple and if you drive the car quite hard for a tank of petrol or two the ecu will store your driving style and become more responsive etc

OllyH · Jan 28th, 2006, 04:49 PM

EVO car magazine did a really good test last month, trying out all the available types of petrol. Looking at the article, they say that in all cases on all cars they tested, Optimax made the engine feel keener to rev to the red line and the car's performance wss often up in terms of bhp too. Another good one to try are the supermarket petrols, like Tesco 98 - which gave even better results than Optimax. However, they concluded that even if you were to run the car on a different type of petrol they'd still advise you to use Optimax every few tankfulls, just for the benefits of the fuel helping to clean the engine. Hope that helps...

shazam · Jan 28th, 2006, 10:26 PM

Note- the Tesco's is 99

I read the evo article, and tried a tank of optimax- it does seem to pop more- nice.

I get 20 more miles with high ron fuel than the cheap stuff, per tank.

aslan0r · Jan 28th, 2006, 10:59 PM

so are we saying tesco 99 is the way to go or optimax?

or are we saying put optimax in every few tanks to clean the engine up a bit...tesco 99 has no cleaning properties i take it?

Deanliv · Feb 2nd, 2006, 05:43 PM

Ive just bougth a cooper S and use to drive a TDCI and do a 100 miels aday so im trying to conserve fuel and get to and from work as cheaply as possible, anyway ive tried optiax and got 370 miles to a tank, normal grade fuel i get 350 miles to a tank, what u have to consider is does the extra u spend in optimax equate to 30 miles worth of fuel?? But if u buy optimax for th e extra fun and responsiveness of the engine and the drive then it doesnt really matter! BP ULTIMATE is also very good!

parsey83 · Feb 3rd, 2006, 10:17 PM

Deanliv you should be very happy with those mileage figures, im lucky to get 230 miles out of a tank on BP ultimate regardless of how shes driven, is this normal anyone?

St00ge · Feb 3rd, 2006, 10:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by parsey83

Deanliv you should be very happy with those mileage figures, im lucky to get 230 miles out of a tank on BP ultimate regardless of how shes driven, is this normal anyone?

yep

I get that figure with BP Ultimate and Optimax as well

Basse · Feb 4th, 2006, 12:12 PM

Optimax, who makes that fuel? Shell?

Cause en Denmark, we have got a fuel from Shell called V-Power? Is that identical, but with different names?

Cheers.

Ian Kuah · Feb 4th, 2006, 02:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Basse

Optimax, who makes that fuel? Shell?

Cause en Denmark, we have got a fuel from Shell called V-Power? Is that identical, but with different names?

Cheers.

Shell Optimax is 98 RON Octane. I have used Shell V-Power in Germany, and it is 100 Octane, very welcome by owners of the many tuner cars there.

It does not seem to be available in France, Holland, Belgium or Luxembourg as I looked for it on the way in and out of Germany.

If you can get V-Power in Denmark then you are lucky!

Basse · Feb 4th, 2006, 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian Kuah

Shell Optimax is 98 RON Octane. I have used Shell V-Power in Germany, and it is 100 Octane, very welcome by owners of the many tuner cars there.

It does not seem to be available in France, Holland, Belgium or Luxembourg as I looked for it on the way in and out of Germany.

If you can get V-Power in Denmark then you are lucky!

Well, i can get V-Power. But i am pretty sure, that it is only 97-octane? I'm gonna have to check!

Jan 27th, 2006, 09:05 AM	#1
andybell18 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 2 Offline	Optimax Vs Unleaded Recently purchased a Mini Cooper S, is there any benefits from filling my motor with Optimax compared to normal 95 unleaded? Will I get better performance and more importantly better miles to the gallon?

Jan 27th, 2006, 09:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
KPKalle Knight of the Round Table Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Midhurst, Sussex Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 21,279 Offline	I've moved your thread to the Engine & Drivetrain Tuning section. If you search here you'll find a lot of discussion on the subject In general though you should get better performance. As regards economy, I've heard arguments both ways although in my Cooper I do get better mileage. Oh and welcome to MINI2 Global Moderator

Jan 27th, 2006, 06:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
Roofas iz dis a yoot house?!! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Luton (pron: Loo'un) Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 711 Offline	better performance and little or no stutter stutter bump bump when it's dead cold Lies need defending all the time. The truth defends itself.

Feb 3rd, 2006, 10:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 11:55 AM Posts: 2,864 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by parsey83 Deanliv you should be very happy with those mileage figures, im lucky to get 230 miles out of a tank on BP ultimate regardless of how shes driven, is this normal anyone? yep I get that figure with BP Ultimate and Optimax as well Black MCS

Feb 4th, 2006, 12:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
Basse Cooper S Cabrio Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 03:55 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Optimax, who makes that fuel? Shell? Cause en Denmark, we have got a fuel from Shell called V-Power? Is that identical, but with different names? Cheers. Mini Cooper S Cabriolet

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Jan 27th, 2006, 03:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
stealth haggis MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 1,773 Offline	i get better milage and engine just runs a bit nicer on optimax i think

Jan 27th, 2006, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 11,615 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by andybell18 Recently purchased a Mini Cooper S, is there any benefits from filling my motor with Optimax compared to normal 95 unleaded? Will I get better performance and more importantly better miles to the gallon? more power and increased exhaust popping

Jan 27th, 2006, 08:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
L14MWY MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: May 2005 Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 175 Offline	any proof of miles per gallon increasE?

Jan 28th, 2006, 04:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
parsey83 The Stig (2) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangor Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 61 Offline	slightly more responsive on the higher octane with more popping from the exhaust (worth it in itself), i have found you need to run about two tanks through to let the ecu adjust to the fuel, u could reset the ecu, this is quite simple and if you drive the car quite hard for a tank of petrol or two the ecu will store your driving style and become more responsive etc

Jan 28th, 2006, 04:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
OllyH OllyH My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 316 Offline	EVO car magazine did a really good test last month, trying out all the available types of petrol. Looking at the article, they say that in all cases on all cars they tested, Optimax made the engine feel keener to rev to the red line and the car's performance wss often up in terms of bhp too. Another good one to try are the supermarket petrols, like Tesco 98 - which gave even better results than Optimax. However, they concluded that even if you were to run the car on a different type of petrol they'd still advise you to use Optimax every few tankfulls, just for the benefits of the fuel helping to clean the engine. Hope that helps...

Jan 28th, 2006, 10:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
shazam MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 416 Offline	Note- the Tesco's is 99 I read the evo article, and tried a tank of optimax- it does seem to pop more- nice. I get 20 more miles with high ron fuel than the cheap stuff, per tank.

Jan 28th, 2006, 10:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
aslan0r MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ashford,Kent Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 129 Offline	so are we saying tesco 99 is the way to go or optimax? or are we saying put optimax in every few tanks to clean the engine up a bit...tesco 99 has no cleaning properties i take it?

Feb 2nd, 2006, 05:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
Deanliv MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: urmston Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 94 Offline	Ive just bougth a cooper S and use to drive a TDCI and do a 100 miels aday so im trying to conserve fuel and get to and from work as cheaply as possible, anyway ive tried optiax and got 370 miles to a tank, normal grade fuel i get 350 miles to a tank, what u have to consider is does the extra u spend in optimax equate to 30 miles worth of fuel?? But if u buy optimax for th e extra fun and responsiveness of the engine and the drive then it doesnt really matter! BP ULTIMATE is also very good!

Feb 3rd, 2006, 10:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
parsey83 The Stig (2) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangor Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 61 Offline	Deanliv you should be very happy with those mileage figures, im lucky to get 230 miles out of a tank on BP ultimate regardless of how shes driven, is this normal anyone?

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Feb 4th, 2006, 02:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ian Kuah MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Sussex Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 27 Offline	Shell V-Power Quote: Originally Posted by Basse Optimax, who makes that fuel? Shell? Cause en Denmark, we have got a fuel from Shell called V-Power? Is that identical, but with different names? Cheers. Shell Optimax is 98 RON Octane. I have used Shell V-Power in Germany, and it is 100 Octane, very welcome by owners of the many tuner cars there. It does not seem to be available in France, Holland, Belgium or Luxembourg as I looked for it on the way in and out of Germany. If you can get V-Power in Denmark then you are lucky!

Feb 4th, 2006, 02:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
Basse Cooper S Cabrio Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 03:55 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ian Kuah Shell Optimax is 98 RON Octane. I have used Shell V-Power in Germany, and it is 100 Octane, very welcome by owners of the many tuner cars there. It does not seem to be available in France, Holland, Belgium or Luxembourg as I looked for it on the way in and out of Germany. If you can get V-Power in Denmark then you are lucky! Well, i can get V-Power. But i am pretty sure, that it is only 97-octane? I'm gonna have to check! Mini Cooper S Cabriolet

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