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MarkW19 · Feb 7th, 2006, 05:39 PM

Simon @ Essential Mini just did this for me on my Cooper, and I can immediately (even just after a few miles) tell a difference, even on standard fuel. I can't wait to see what it'll be like after a few hundred miles when it's "settled in" and with Optimax.

The car is much smoother to drive - the shuddering in 1st/2nd gear etc. is gone, 1st gear acceleration is a lot smoother and easier to manage, gear changes are smoother, the car pulls MUCH better in all gears inc. 5th, acceleration is significantly improved and it just keeps on going and seems to be "freer" to drive, and to be honest it's transformed the car.

Top marks to Simon for a great service and a great product.

If anyone is sceptical about this mod (as I was, and to be honest even after I had it done I didn't expect a massive improvement) then don't be - just get it done, it's well worth it. And at £210 it's a steal for the performance/drivability/responsiveness increase you get.

moonshine · Feb 7th, 2006, 06:00 PM

Glad you like it

I told you it was worthwhile

to be honest, i didn't see a big difference with running on optimax, so i am back on the regular 95 RON stuff and it is still great.

All the best

Gerry

supercharged99 · Feb 7th, 2006, 06:09 PM

how does MTH know the differance between a JCW ported cylinder head , and a GTT or any other modded head ?

do they use the same programme for ALL ported heads ???

MarkW19 · Feb 7th, 2006, 06:29 PM

The data is downloaded from your car's ECU...then it's uploaded to MTH in Germany with a list of SPECIFIC modifications (manufacturer/model etc.) your vehicle has. The file is then tweaked and adapted to make the best of these modifications, and sent back to you.

Pepper'D · Feb 7th, 2006, 07:17 PM

getting it added to my one d in the near future really looking forward to avon park this year

62Lincoln · Feb 7th, 2006, 07:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99

how does MTH know the differance between a JCW ported cylinder head , and a GTT or any other modded head ?

do they use the same programme for ALL ported heads ???

The best solution would be to give MTH a/f numbers from a dyno pull, and allow them to adjust the mapping accordingly. They can do this if one can supply the info.

Cooper S Ire · Feb 7th, 2006, 08:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 62Lincoln

The best solution would be to give MTH a/f numbers from a dyno pull, and allow them to adjust the mapping accordingly. They can do this if one can supply the info.

em sorry but they wont,
I have contacted Volker and asked him if I provide data from a wideband o2 sensor including rpm could he tweak my tuner file a bit more and he told me no, the only way to further tweak the tuner file is to bring the car to Germany and to their workshop.

supercharged99 · Feb 7th, 2006, 08:43 PM

it's bad enough i'm not doing the 5 hour drive to GTT to sort the car out , so off to GERMANY uh-uh ...

so MTH looks like they will use the same programme on a JCW car , and on any other car that has a ported head / 15% pulley /cat-back ???

62Lincoln · Feb 7th, 2006, 11:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Cooper S Ire

em sorry but they wont,
I have contacted Volker and asked him if I provide data from a wideband o2 sensor including rpm could he tweak my tuner file a bit more and he told me no, the only way to further tweak the tuner file is to bring the car to Germany and to their workshop.

Sorry, I was misinformed.

St00ge · Feb 8th, 2006, 08:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 62Lincoln

Sorry, I was misinformed.

i also was told that the AFR from a dyno could be sent to MTH and they can tweak it

Emre Gulkan · Feb 9th, 2006, 04:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by etalj

i also was told that the AFR from a dyno could be sent to MTH and they can tweak it

Volker told me it's not really possible.

You need an AFC to do it perfectly.

St00ge · Feb 9th, 2006, 09:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Emre Gulkan

Volker told me it's not really possible.

You need an AFC to do it perfectly.

Looks like i was misinformed as well....

Feb 7th, 2006, 05:39 PM	#1
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:35 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	MTH Tuner remap Simon @ Essential Mini just did this for me on my Cooper, and I can immediately (even just after a few miles) tell a difference, even on standard fuel. I can't wait to see what it'll be like after a few hundred miles when it's "settled in" and with Optimax. The car is much smoother to drive - the shuddering in 1st/2nd gear etc. is gone, 1st gear acceleration is a lot smoother and easier to manage, gear changes are smoother, the car pulls MUCH better in all gears inc. 5th, acceleration is significantly improved and it just keeps on going and seems to be "freer" to drive, and to be honest it's transformed the car. Top marks to Simon for a great service and a great product. If anyone is sceptical about this mod (as I was, and to be honest even after I had it done I didn't expect a massive improvement) then don't be - just get it done, it's well worth it. And at £210 it's a steal for the performance/drivability/responsiveness increase you get. Last edited by MarkW19 : Feb 7th, 2006 at 08:44 PM.

Feb 7th, 2006, 06:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
moonshine MINI2 Senior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Gourock, Scotland Local Time: 09:35 PM Posts: 590 Offline	Glad you like it I told you it was worthwhile to be honest, i didn't see a big difference with running on optimax, so i am back on the regular 95 RON stuff and it is still great. All the best Gerry MINI Cooper, Chili Pack, Xenons, heated washers, MFSW, ASC+T,

Feb 7th, 2006, 06:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
supercharged99 clinton steenkamp Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west yorkshire Local Time: 10:35 PM Posts: 228 Offline	how does MTH know the differance between a JCW ported cylinder head , and a GTT or any other modded head ? do they use the same programme for ALL ported heads ??? yeeeeeehaaaaaaa DAMN THIS THING IS QUICK

Feb 7th, 2006, 08:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
supercharged99 clinton steenkamp Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west yorkshire Local Time: 10:35 PM Posts: 228 Offline	it's bad enough i'm not doing the 5 hour drive to GTT to sort the car out , so off to GERMANY uh-uh ... so MTH looks like they will use the same programme on a JCW car , and on any other car that has a ported head / 15% pulley /cat-back ??? yeeeeeehaaaaaaa DAMN THIS THING IS QUICK

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St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:35 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 62Lincoln Sorry, I was misinformed. i also was told that the AFR from a dyno could be sent to MTH and they can tweak it Black MCS

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Feb 7th, 2006, 06:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:35 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	The data is downloaded from your car's ECU...then it's uploaded to MTH in Germany with a list of SPECIFIC modifications (manufacturer/model etc.) your vehicle has. The file is then tweaked and adapted to make the best of these modifications, and sent back to you.

Feb 7th, 2006, 07:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pepper'D TUNIT DX Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: midlands,uk Local Time: 10:35 PM Posts: 1,809 Offline	getting it added to my one d in the near future really looking forward to avon park this year

Feb 7th, 2006, 07:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
62Lincoln MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Atlanta Local Time: 04:35 PM Posts: 95 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99 how does MTH know the differance between a JCW ported cylinder head , and a GTT or any other modded head ? do they use the same programme for ALL ported heads ??? The best solution would be to give MTH a/f numbers from a dyno pull, and allow them to adjust the mapping accordingly. They can do this if one can supply the info.

Feb 7th, 2006, 08:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cooper S Ire MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kildare Local Time: 09:35 PM Posts: 162 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 62Lincoln The best solution would be to give MTH a/f numbers from a dyno pull, and allow them to adjust the mapping accordingly. They can do this if one can supply the info. em sorry but they wont, I have contacted Volker and asked him if I provide data from a wideband o2 sensor including rpm could he tweak my tuner file a bit more and he told me no, the only way to further tweak the tuner file is to bring the car to Germany and to their workshop.

Feb 7th, 2006, 11:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
62Lincoln MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Atlanta Local Time: 04:35 PM Posts: 95 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Cooper S Ire em sorry but they wont, I have contacted Volker and asked him if I provide data from a wideband o2 sensor including rpm could he tweak my tuner file a bit more and he told me no, the only way to further tweak the tuner file is to bring the car to Germany and to their workshop. Sorry, I was misinformed.

Feb 9th, 2006, 04:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Emre Gulkan Super Mini Join Date: Feb 2005 Local Time: 05:35 PM Posts: 45 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by etalj i also was told that the AFR from a dyno could be sent to MTH and they can tweak it Volker told me it's not really possible. You need an AFC to do it perfectly.

Feb 9th, 2006, 09:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:35 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Emre Gulkan Volker told me it's not really possible. You need an AFC to do it perfectly. Looks like i was misinformed as well.... Black MCS

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