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kb_solo2 · Jul 15th, 2002, 07:59 PM

Has anybody replaced their wheel bolts with wheel studs? What length did you use? How far does the stud extend past the end of the nut on a stock MINI wheel?

Thanks for the help.

gowest · Oct 12th, 2002, 11:03 AM

I'm looking to make this same mod. Will someone measure their stock bolts, full length, not just the threaded area, so I will know what to look for? My S has a week 42 build, so it will be another 6+ weeks until I get mine.

motoring · Oct 12th, 2002, 12:06 PM

I purchased 40mm studs and nuts from BMP Designs. They are about 10mm too long for my purposes (can't put the centercaps back on), but depending on the wheel or spacer you use they might work fine.

minimc · Oct 14th, 2002, 02:32 AM

Please forgive my ignorance regarding this subject, but what's the difference, and why would I/you care to change these.

- Not being smart here, am really interested.

I myself have been pondering aftermarket wheels and have been cursing the 4x100 pattern - so few choices compared to 5 lug patterns.

motoring · Oct 14th, 2002, 02:53 AM

What we're talking about are the bolts holding on the wheels. The MINI has bolts that screw into the hub and hold on the wheel. For racing purposes it is easier to use studs (just the threaded part of a bolt) permanently mounted in the hub and seperate lugnuts that hold on the wheel.

I agree the 4x100 bolt patern has some limitations, but I have heard that several wheel manufactures will be offering more styles in 4x100 due to the popularity of the MINI.

If you really want a 5 bolt pattern you can do what one of the aftermarket tuners did for their show car (Hamann ?) and switch the entire brake system (hub, rotor and caliper) to a compatable 5 bolt system $$$$

Everything is fixable

Mugami · Oct 14th, 2002, 05:05 AM

One other consideration why the changing from bolts to studs. For the guys going to After market wheels. Its easier to get fancy designer lug nuts and locking lugnuts than ones in bolts. Just go to a local Autoparts store and try to find the bolts in chrome vs all the different Nuts you can find (no im not talking about the guys behind the counter)

CSDan · Oct 14th, 2002, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by minimc

I myself have been pondering aftermarket wheels and have been cursing the 4x100 pattern - so few choices compared to 5 lug patterns.

Really-- I have found that there are PLENTY of wheels that fit--our bolt pattern is virtually identicle to a honda civic.

Daniel

AidenL · Oct 14th, 2002, 03:53 PM

I'm actually wondering if I can use the bolts that came with my 15"s when I fit my new 17" S spokes later this week, or do I have to buy a new set........anyone done this already?

minimc · Oct 14th, 2002, 05:13 PM

Thanks for the info. How does one go about changing from bolts to lugs (how much work?)

As for the comment about wheel options... While there are a fair amount of 4x100 options there are numerous 5-bolt wheels that are not offered in 4x100.

I think you may have hit the nail on the head with your comment about 4x100 & Honda - in that most wheel mnfr's producing 4x100 aren't making them for the Mini. They are outfitting mostly boy-racer types & the styles that appeal to that crowd. There are SO many cars that fit THAT profile, so they follow the $ - not what looks best on our Minis.

IMHO
Most aftermarket wheels do not mesh well with Mini's organic form.

motoring · Oct 14th, 2002, 05:21 PM

Installing wheel studs is very simple on the MINI.

Jack up the car. Remove the wheels. Screw the new studs into the 4 holes in each hub (use some thread lock) tighten. Put wheels back on. Screw on new lug nuts. Torque. Lower car.

Simple.

Some other cars require removing the brake rotor, etc. etc.

DaveNagy · Oct 15th, 2002, 12:54 AM

How do you tighten the studs? (When you're initially threading them into the hub.) It doesn't seem like you'd have much purchase. Do you use a special tool, or can you thread the lugnuts onto the studs and then tighten the whole assembly?

Probably a dumb question, but there it is.

-Dave

benggolf · Oct 15th, 2002, 01:05 AM

DaveNagy, thread two open nuts and jam against each other. Apply thread lock on the opposite end of the stud that will go into the wheel hub.

Use your wrench on the jammed nuts to screw in the stud. Presto!

motoring · Oct 15th, 2002, 01:44 AM

Actually the studs have a 6mm allen head. Just tighten with 6mm allen wrench.

minimc · Oct 15th, 2002, 01:29 PM

Anyone thinking of replacing the Mini hubs outright?

motoring · Oct 15th, 2002, 03:54 PM

i would be careful with replacing the hubs there may be distinct warrantee issues regarding the ABS system.

My .02

minimc · Oct 15th, 2002, 04:56 PM

Point taken. ...but I was talking BMW for BMW... and not some hap-hazzard job.

motoring · Oct 15th, 2002, 05:33 PM

It should work... one of the tuner companies has done it. You would also get the benefit of even larger brakes.

motoring · Oct 15th, 2002, 06:25 PM

Check out Breyton, they have done the conversion.

http://www.breyton.de/

minimc · Oct 15th, 2002, 08:40 PM

motoring

Thanks for the Breyton link!

Question though: How do you know that they've done the conversion? I can't find anything more than a photo of a Mini Cooper with 7x18 rims. ...And it does look FAT!

motoring · Oct 15th, 2002, 08:42 PM

Look closely at the photo...5 bolt holes.

Jul 15th, 2002, 07:59 PM	#1
kb_solo2 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Local Time: 01:28 PM Posts: 86 Offline	Wheel Studs Has anybody replaced their wheel bolts with wheel studs? What length did you use? How far does the stud extend past the end of the nut on a stock MINI wheel? Thanks for the help. Picked up the car on Aug 6, 10,200 miles already IB/W Cooper, Rogue Exhaust, Magnecor Wires, K&N filter, Porterfield Brakes. Serious Autocross Fun

Oct 12th, 2002, 11:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
gowest MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Va. Local Time: 05:28 PM Posts: 208 Offline	I'm looking to make this same mod. Will someone measure their stock bolts, full length, not just the threaded area, so I will know what to look for? My S has a week 42 build, so it will be another 6+ weeks until I get mine. 2001 & 2002 SCCA, STS Pro Solo National Champion. 2003 SCCA, Solo2 Nationals 8th, co-driver (Courtney) 2nd in 03 & 04 2003 JCW 210, London Stainless Headers, custom cat back with 5" SuperTrapp, 15x7.5 SSR's and 16x8 ce28n's, Quaife, KW Comp 2 Ways

Oct 12th, 2002, 12:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
motoring Autox Monster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Des Moines, WA Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 617 Offline	I purchased 40mm studs and nuts from BMP Designs. They are about 10mm too long for my purposes (can't put the centercaps back on), but depending on the wheel or spacer you use they might work fine. IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top 2004 H Stock National Champion

Oct 14th, 2002, 02:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
motoring Autox Monster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Des Moines, WA Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 617 Offline	What we're talking about are the bolts holding on the wheels. The MINI has bolts that screw into the hub and hold on the wheel. For racing purposes it is easier to use studs (just the threaded part of a bolt) permanently mounted in the hub and seperate lugnuts that hold on the wheel. I agree the 4x100 bolt patern has some limitations, but I have heard that several wheel manufactures will be offering more styles in 4x100 due to the popularity of the MINI. If you really want a 5 bolt pattern you can do what one of the aftermarket tuners did for their show car (Hamann ?) and switch the entire brake system (hub, rotor and caliper) to a compatable 5 bolt system $$$$ Everything is fixable IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top 2004 H Stock National Champion

Oct 14th, 2002, 05:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mugami MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 05:28 PM Posts: 1,215 Offline	One other consideration why the changing from bolts to studs. For the guys going to After market wheels. Its easier to get fancy designer lug nuts and locking lugnuts than ones in bolts. Just go to a local Autoparts store and try to find the bolts in chrome vs all the different Nuts you can find (no im not talking about the guys behind the counter) 02 MCS DS/W (Totaled November 02 on Fall Folage Run) 03 MCS DS/W (See my MINI Profie for extensive list of mods)

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Oct 14th, 2002, 02:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
minimc MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2002 Local Time: 04:28 PM Posts: 457 Offline	Please forgive my ignorance regarding this subject, but what's the difference, and why would I/you care to change these. - Not being smart here, am really interested. I myself have been pondering aftermarket wheels and have been cursing the 4x100 pattern - so few choices compared to 5 lug patterns.

Oct 14th, 2002, 03:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
CSDan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Katonah NY, USA Local Time: 04:28 PM Posts: 224 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by minimc I myself have been pondering aftermarket wheels and have been cursing the 4x100 pattern - so few choices compared to 5 lug patterns. Really-- I have found that there are PLENTY of wheels that fit--our bolt pattern is virtually identicle to a honda civic. Daniel Cooper S: Now new and improved with Helix short shifter, Ghetto K&N HAI, Rota Circuit 8's w/ T1'S Proxies/Kosei K1 racing wheels with Falken Azenis(for Auto-X/Trackday), and H-sport springs. UUC rear sway waiting to install

Oct 14th, 2002, 03:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 09:28 PM Posts: 40,988 Offline	I'm actually wondering if I can use the bolts that came with my 15"s when I fit my new 17" S spokes later this week, or do I have to buy a new set........anyone done this already? *Global Moderator*

Oct 14th, 2002, 05:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
minimc MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2002 Local Time: 04:28 PM Posts: 457 Offline	Thanks for the info. How does one go about changing from bolts to lugs (how much work?) As for the comment about wheel options... While there are a fair amount of 4x100 options there are numerous 5-bolt wheels that are not offered in 4x100. I think you may have hit the nail on the head with your comment about 4x100 & Honda - in that most wheel mnfr's producing 4x100 aren't making them for the Mini. They are outfitting mostly boy-racer types & the styles that appeal to that crowd. There are SO many cars that fit THAT profile, so they follow the $ - not what looks best on our Minis. IMHO Most aftermarket wheels do not mesh well with Mini's organic form.

Oct 14th, 2002, 05:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
motoring Autox Monster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Des Moines, WA Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 617 Offline	How To. Installing wheel studs is very simple on the MINI. Jack up the car. Remove the wheels. Screw the new studs into the 4 holes in each hub (use some thread lock) tighten. Put wheels back on. Screw on new lug nuts. Torque. Lower car. Simple. Some other cars require removing the brake rotor, etc. etc. IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top 2004 H Stock National Champion

Oct 15th, 2002, 12:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
DaveNagy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasanton, Californ Local Time: 01:28 PM Posts: 223 Offline	How do you tighten the studs? (When you're initially threading them into the hub.) It doesn't seem like you'd have much purchase. Do you use a special tool, or can you thread the lugnuts onto the studs and then tighten the whole assembly? Probably a dumb question, but there it is. -Dave

Oct 15th, 2002, 01:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
benggolf MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Richmond, B.C. Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 4,056 Offline	DaveNagy, thread two open nuts and jam against each other. Apply thread lock on the opposite end of the stud that will go into the wheel hub. Use your wrench on the jammed nuts to screw in the stud. Presto! 2005 Mercedes Benz C55 AMG 2006 BMW Z4 M-Coupe - Premium Pkg. 2007 Honda Fit - Sports Pkg. 2005 V-Star 1100 Custom 2007 Honda 250 Reflex

Oct 15th, 2002, 01:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
motoring Autox Monster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Des Moines, WA Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 617 Offline	Actually the studs have a 6mm allen head. Just tighten with 6mm allen wrench. IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top 2004 H Stock National Champion

Oct 15th, 2002, 01:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
minimc MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2002 Local Time: 04:28 PM Posts: 457 Offline	Anyone thinking of replacing the Mini hubs outright?

Oct 15th, 2002, 03:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
motoring Autox Monster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Des Moines, WA Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 617 Offline	i would be careful with replacing the hubs there may be distinct warrantee issues regarding the ABS system. My .02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top 2004 H Stock National Champion

Oct 15th, 2002, 04:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
minimc MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2002 Local Time: 04:28 PM Posts: 457 Offline	Point taken. ...but I was talking BMW for BMW... and not some hap-hazzard job.

Oct 15th, 2002, 05:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
motoring Autox Monster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Des Moines, WA Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 617 Offline	It should work... one of the tuner companies has done it. You would also get the benefit of even larger brakes. IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top 2004 H Stock National Champion

Oct 15th, 2002, 06:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
motoring Autox Monster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Des Moines, WA Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 617 Offline	Check out Breyton, they have done the conversion. http://www.breyton.de/ IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top 2004 H Stock National Champion

Oct 15th, 2002, 08:40 PM	#19 (permalink)
minimc MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2002 Local Time: 04:28 PM Posts: 457 Offline	motoring Thanks for the Breyton link! Question though: How do you know that they've done the conversion? I can't find anything more than a photo of a Mini Cooper with 7x18 rims. ...And it does look FAT!

Oct 15th, 2002, 08:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
motoring Autox Monster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Des Moines, WA Local Time: 02:28 PM Posts: 617 Offline	Look closely at the photo...5 bolt holes. IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top 2004 H Stock National Champion

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