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Trinity.Mini. · Feb 25th, 2006, 10:31 PM

Hey,

....

I'm looking at getting a new air filter, possibly the K&N 57i from MiniSport. I'm wondering if anyone has any advice as to fitting, or generally if they're any good. Or, in fact, if the Pipercross is any better... I have a One, and I'd like to maximise it's power really.

Any advice is much appreciated.

.

Many thanks,

Dave.

sillycar gt4cs · Feb 26th, 2006, 02:06 AM

imo the filter is a little to large for the engine bay as it wears the soundproofing away under the bonnet,but the kit as a whole is good quality

Root Ginger · Feb 26th, 2006, 07:30 AM

Yeah common problem that. Even the genuine JCW filter does that

Had my soundproofing replaced under warranty and the filter finely adjusted and now it doesn't do it.

You will probably find you'll lose power with the induction kit on the One. On a rolling orad day I attended a couple of years ago. The most powerful One was the standard one! Those with aftermarket induction and exhausts all lost power. None had any remaps though which could explain it.

Far better IMO getting it chipped.

pkman · Feb 28th, 2006, 01:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger

Yeah common problem that. Even the genuine JCW filter does that

Had my soundproofing replaced under warranty and the filter finely adjusted and now it doesn't do it.

You will probably find you'll lose power with the induction kit on the One. On a rolling orad day I attended a couple of years ago. The most powerful One was the standard one! Those with aftermarket induction and exhausts all lost power. None had any remaps though which could explain it.

Far better IMO getting it chipped.

Agreed. And I had to take my sound proofing off due to my OMP strut brace and Pipercross filter. I am sure it will all fit but it was just a tad too tight...so I thought it would be better to remove it.

Trinity.Mini. · Feb 28th, 2006, 06:14 PM

Cheers for the advice guys...I'll re-think some things...

Travelling up to Lohen on Thursday - pondering what to spend my dosh on

.

GR33NIE · Feb 28th, 2006, 06:30 PM

K&N Typhoon kits or the Pipercross Viper are the best performance wise, however they are abit more prob around £120ish

GR33NIE · Feb 28th, 2006, 06:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GR33NIE

K&N Typhoon kits or the Pipercross Viper are the best performance wise, however they are abit more prob around £120ish

Or more!:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-Typhoon-Sy...QQcmdZViewItem

Haggi · Feb 28th, 2006, 06:43 PM

k&n typhoon 180 at least pipercroos viper 250

sillycar gt4cs · Mar 1st, 2006, 05:39 PM

i have a hks power flow if interested

*Vikki* · Mar 1st, 2006, 07:11 PM

Whats the best one you can get money no option?

madmart100 · Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:19 PM

go for the JCW open cone filter. fitted mine on tuesday the car now sounds AMAZING and seems to accelerate quicker. also it is reduced to £99 inc vat at the moment.

GR33NIE · Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by madmart100

go for the JCW open cone filter. fitted mine on tuesday the car now sounds AMAZING and seems to accelerate quicker. also it is reduced to £99 inc vat at the moment.

Hi,

Yeah I saw that too on the JCW site! Will it fit a MINI One though? Should do i would think?

Taffcd · Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:30 PM

Just got the John Cooper Motorsport Cone filter for ths MCS reduced to £49.95 + £8 P+P.
http://www.johncooper.co.uk/JohnCoop...t%5FClearance/

Excellent buy

matt21 · Mar 3rd, 2006, 07:04 PM

u can get 57i's for around £50 secondhand which I did.

best money i spent on the car. yes it wasnt faster but boy it felt it with that sound!!

Richard Crofts · Mar 8th, 2006, 11:21 AM

The 57i is an induction kit, not a Cold Air Intake (CAI)....thats why some Coopers and ONEs running it and similar products develop less power than a stock or replacement panel filter car. The 57i has the problem that it can pull bigger airflow, but that air is not nessesarily cold! The air its pulling in is the air in the engine bay...therefore its warm...which will not enhance power it will deminish it because the engines burn is less efficient. My advice go for a sheilded intake...the Piper Viper has a degree of sheilding so it performs better than most....plus I think it has a direct feed from an external air source, rather than the stale air in the engine compartment.....but CAI like the minimania one I believe are best on the ONE/Cooper.

My advice is steer clkear of open cone filters that are not shielded or have a direct feed from the outside/cold air! Buy a sheilded CAI, more expensive but will give you power not lose it! The alternative is to fit a panel filter like K&N or Piper etc and then use a replacement pipe for the inlet pipe...choose a smooth silicane style rather than the corrugated type used by the MINI as standard. This will give imporved flow (sheilded from some warm air by the standard box) and feed air in a nice smooth flow through the smooth silcone pipe....creating less turbulance on the air flowing into the intake on the engine.

Trinity.Mini. · Mar 8th, 2006, 11:46 AM

Thanks Richard, and everyone for the advice.

In the end I went for a Bluefin superchip - bit on the more expensive side, but a great buy. I think now I'm going to concentrate on handling and ride and maybe an exhaust, but the advice to go for a viper has helped for future reference, many thanks

.

matt21 · Mar 8th, 2006, 01:36 PM

i got a K&N forsale for £50 if anyone is interested

Richard Crofts · Mar 10th, 2006, 10:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Trinity.Mini.

Cheers for the advice guys...I'll re-think some things...

Travelling up to Lohen on Thursday - pondering what to spend my dosh on

.

Tuning Kit 2! Thats what to spend the dosh on

Then Lohen brake kit and some KW springs!

Good luck and have a good time.

Richard Crofts · Mar 10th, 2006, 10:56 AM

Oh and a milltek cat back

Trinity.Mini. · Mar 10th, 2006, 01:26 PM

Oh believe me I'd love to get all that Richard, but I don't have the cash...*cries*.

One day....

.

Feb 25th, 2006, 10:31 PM	#1
Trinity.Mini. 131 BHP, Mods galore !! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 122 Offline	K&N 57i Induction Air Filter advice... Hey, .... I'm looking at getting a new air filter, possibly the K&N 57i from MiniSport. I'm wondering if anyone has any advice as to fitting, or generally if they're any good. Or, in fact, if the Pipercross is any better... I have a One, and I'd like to maximise it's power really. Any advice is much appreciated. . Many thanks, Dave.

Feb 26th, 2006, 07:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 4,634 Offline	Yeah common problem that. Even the genuine JCW filter does that Had my soundproofing replaced under warranty and the filter finely adjusted and now it doesn't do it. You will probably find you'll lose power with the induction kit on the One. On a rolling orad day I attended a couple of years ago. The most powerful One was the standard one! Those with aftermarket induction and exhausts all lost power. None had any remaps though which could explain it. Far better IMO getting it chipped. It was acceptable in the 80's

Feb 28th, 2006, 01:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
pkman MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Local Time: 10:31 PM Posts: 163 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger Yeah common problem that. Even the genuine JCW filter does that Had my soundproofing replaced under warranty and the filter finely adjusted and now it doesn't do it. You will probably find you'll lose power with the induction kit on the One. On a rolling orad day I attended a couple of years ago. The most powerful One was the standard one! Those with aftermarket induction and exhausts all lost power. None had any remaps though which could explain it. Far better IMO getting it chipped. Agreed. And I had to take my sound proofing off due to my OMP strut brace and Pipercross filter. I am sure it will all fit but it was just a tad too tight...so I thought it would be better to remove it. 'Always play fairly when you have the winning hand...' Its all a Mini Adventure

Feb 28th, 2006, 06:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Haggi forwards and downwards Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: my rack Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 1,790 Offline	k&n typhoon 180 at least pipercroos viper 250 confusion, madness and disorder .............. my work here is done

Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Taffcd Welsh And Thirsty Join Date: Oct 2005 Local Time: 10:31 PM Posts: 74 Offline	Just got the John Cooper Motorsport Cone filter for ths MCS reduced to £49.95 + £8 P+P. http://www.johncooper.co.uk/JohnCoop...t%5FClearance/ Excellent buy Welsh and Thirsty

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Feb 26th, 2006, 02:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
sillycar gt4cs MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2006 Local Time: 10:31 PM Posts: 218 Offline	imo the filter is a little to large for the engine bay as it wears the soundproofing away under the bonnet,but the kit as a whole is good quality

Feb 28th, 2006, 06:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Trinity.Mini. 131 BHP, Mods galore !! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 122 Offline	Cheers for the advice guys...I'll re-think some things... Travelling up to Lohen on Thursday - pondering what to spend my dosh on .

Feb 28th, 2006, 06:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
GR33NIE Polo GT Owner! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 3,860 Offline	K&N Typhoon kits or the Pipercross Viper are the best performance wise, however they are abit more prob around £120ish

Feb 28th, 2006, 06:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
GR33NIE Polo GT Owner! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 3,860 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GR33NIE K&N Typhoon kits or the Pipercross Viper are the best performance wise, however they are abit more prob around £120ish Or more!: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-Typhoon-Sy...QQcmdZViewItem

Mar 1st, 2006, 05:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
sillycar gt4cs MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2006 Local Time: 10:31 PM Posts: 218 Offline	i have a hks power flow if interested

Mar 1st, 2006, 07:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Vikki Winner MM best MINI ONE! My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: St Leonards-on-Sea Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 2,175 Offline	Whats the best one you can get money no option?

Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
madmart100 astro black clubman My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SOUTHAMPTON Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 25 Offline	go for the JCW open cone filter. fitted mine on tuesday the car now sounds AMAZING and seems to accelerate quicker. also it is reduced to £99 inc vat at the moment.

Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
GR33NIE Polo GT Owner! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 3,860 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by madmart100 go for the JCW open cone filter. fitted mine on tuesday the car now sounds AMAZING and seems to accelerate quicker. also it is reduced to £99 inc vat at the moment. Hi, Yeah I saw that too on the JCW site! Will it fit a MINI One though? Should do i would think?

Mar 3rd, 2006, 07:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
matt21 Now with S power! My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Rugby/Loughborough Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 23,893 Offline	u can get 57i's for around £50 secondhand which I did. best money i spent on the car. yes it wasnt faster but boy it felt it with that sound!!

Mar 8th, 2006, 11:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	The 57i is an induction kit, not a Cold Air Intake (CAI)....thats why some Coopers and ONEs running it and similar products develop less power than a stock or replacement panel filter car. The 57i has the problem that it can pull bigger airflow, but that air is not nessesarily cold! The air its pulling in is the air in the engine bay...therefore its warm...which will not enhance power it will deminish it because the engines burn is less efficient. My advice go for a sheilded intake...the Piper Viper has a degree of sheilding so it performs better than most....plus I think it has a direct feed from an external air source, rather than the stale air in the engine compartment.....but CAI like the minimania one I believe are best on the ONE/Cooper. My advice is steer clkear of open cone filters that are not shielded or have a direct feed from the outside/cold air! Buy a sheilded CAI, more expensive but will give you power not lose it! The alternative is to fit a panel filter like K&N or Piper etc and then use a replacement pipe for the inlet pipe...choose a smooth silicane style rather than the corrugated type used by the MINI as standard. This will give imporved flow (sheilded from some warm air by the standard box) and feed air in a nice smooth flow through the smooth silcone pipe....creating less turbulance on the air flowing into the intake on the engine.

Mar 8th, 2006, 11:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
Trinity.Mini. 131 BHP, Mods galore !! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 122 Offline	Thanks Richard, and everyone for the advice. In the end I went for a Bluefin superchip - bit on the more expensive side, but a great buy. I think now I'm going to concentrate on handling and ride and maybe an exhaust, but the advice to go for a viper has helped for future reference, many thanks .

Mar 8th, 2006, 01:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
matt21 Now with S power! My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Rugby/Loughborough Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 23,893 Offline	i got a K&N forsale for £50 if anyone is interested

Mar 10th, 2006, 10:53 AM	#18 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Trinity.Mini. Cheers for the advice guys...I'll re-think some things... Travelling up to Lohen on Thursday - pondering what to spend my dosh on . Tuning Kit 2! Thats what to spend the dosh on Then Lohen brake kit and some KW springs! Good luck and have a good time.

Mar 10th, 2006, 10:56 AM	#19 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	Oh and a milltek cat back

Mar 10th, 2006, 01:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Trinity.Mini. 131 BHP, Mods galore !! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 09:31 PM Posts: 122 Offline	Oh believe me I'd love to get all that Richard, but I don't have the cash...cries. One day.... .

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