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PmP · Sep 22nd, 2006, 01:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by venox22 (original)

yes i did mine a couple of weeks ago, very worthwhile mod in my opinion

Im concerned by the fact you have to drill holes into the airbox lid. And the whole filter arrangement is held together by three springs? In my mind it doesnt seem the most secure of arrangements.

Anyone know how the Mini Madness replacement element is held on?

MINIAC · Sep 22nd, 2006, 01:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original)

Anyone know how the Mini Madness replacement element is held on?

Same way as the OEM filter element ...

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venox22 · Sep 22nd, 2006, 02:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original)

Im concerned by the fact you have to drill holes into the airbox lid. And the whole filter arrangement is held together by three springs? In my mind it doesnt seem the most secure of arrangements.

Anyone know how the Mini Madness replacement element is held on?

Yeah did think that myself when assembleing it!!

T-bone S · Sep 22nd, 2006, 02:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original)

Same way as the OEM filter element ...

However the advantage of the GTT unit is that it can flow air through the end of it as well - this blanked off by the securing end cap in the OEM set up.

MINIAC · Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S (original)

However the advantage of the GTT unit is that it can flow air through the end of it as well - this blanked off by the securing end cap in the OEM set up.

The Madness replacement filter allows air flow through the end and has a built-in velocity stack.

PmP · Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original)

The Madness replacement filter allows air flow through the end and has a built-in velocity stack.

This GTT design is a bit mad for my liking, also butchering the airbox lid doesnt exactly allow you the option of swapping the filters back for servicing or warranty work.

However, what holds the stock filter on, just that clip on the retaining end of it?

Is it the same for the Mini madness option? Not held on my a jubilee clip of anything?

Anyone know how much a new JCW airbox lid costs?

T-bone S · Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original)

The Madness replacement filter allows air flow through the end and has a built-in velocity stack.

Yeah - read that - not 100% sure of its set up though - so didn't want to comment on the Madness unit and be wrong.

In fact the velocity stack feature of the Madness is a plus over the GTT element as this doesn't have it. The GTT induction kit does has a Velocity stack (Ram Pipe) attached to the heatshield which the element goes over.

T-bone S · Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:47 PM

You can't buy a lid by itself you have to buy the whole airbox. - That isn't just JCW - goes for stock airbox as well!!

PmP · Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:58 PM

Id like more info on the fitment of minimadness kit.

MINIAC · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original)

Id like more info on the fitment of minimadness kit.

It's so new I doubt many people have fitted one.

I'd recommend contacting Madness directly with any questions.

Capsaisin · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:13 PM

Why do you need to drill holes in the JCW airbox, hasn't it got enough already? Why is it necessary to drill more for the GTT filter?
There are already 3 very big holes, including one right at the top of the filter, which when fitting the GTT filter is positioned just right for flow through the top of the filter.
So I don't understand why you need to drill more. Having just bought a JCW airbox, and being tempted by the GTT airfilter, I certainly have no intentions of drilling into what is essentially a very expensive plastic box and ruining it.

PmP · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Capsaisin (original)

Why do you need to drill holes in the JCW airbox, hasn't it got enough already? Why is it necessary to drill more for the GTT filter?
There are already 3 very big holes, including one right at the top of the filter, which when fitting the GTT filter is positioned just right for flow through the top of the filter.
So I don't understand why you need to drill more. Having just bought a JCW airbox, and being tempted by the GTT airfilter, I certainly have no intentions of drilling into what is essentially a very expensive plastic box and ruining it.

The GTT filter comes in two bits, a cylindrical cone, and a round end plate. You have to drill three holes in airbox around intake pipe for plastic gromets that hold one end of a spring, and the other end of the spring goes onto the end plate of filter. So three springs hold the filter on and together.

T-bone S · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:19 PM

Tiny holes were required to mount the 3 long springs that hold the GTT element in place on the top cover of the airbox

However - i'm sure Roland had changed this to little clips instead - will have a dig around for the thread!

Capsaisin · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:26 PM

Ah, OK I understand now.
So possibly an inventive sort of person (aka bodger) might be able to fabricate an internal collar arrangement to anchor the springs, instead of drilling the airbox.

PmP · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S (original)

Tiny holes were required to mount the 3 long springs that hold the GTT element in place on the top cover of the airbox

However - i'm sure Roland had changed this to little clips instead - will have a dig around for the thread!

My emails not working to check with minimadness, and I 'm in UK so dont really want to ring them.

I certainly wont be drilling holes if it means I cant go back to stock filter.

MisterMINI · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:28 PM

I'm going for the MINI Madness straight replacement filter. Having to drill holes for the GTT sounds like too much of a mod to the VERY expensive JCW airbox. Another consideration is that my car still has 3.5 years of warranty remaining - I don't want to do anything that will void it.

T-bone S · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:31 PM

Heres the link regarding the new fitment of the GTT element

Clicky

PmP · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S (original)

Heres the link regarding the new fitment of the GTT element

Clicky

Yes, they are gromets, you still have to drill holes in airbox for them to attach to something!

T-bone S · Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:38 PM

Yup - thought it was very different from the previous installation method - so just posted it up.

PmP · Sep 22nd, 2006, 07:19 PM

Emailed Mini Madness to see how their alternative filter element fits. Will keep you updated.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 02:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 07:02 AM Posts: 571 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original) Same way as the OEM filter element ... However the advantage of the GTT unit is that it can flow air through the end of it as well - this blanked off by the securing end cap in the OEM set up. MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:45 PM	#27 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 07:02 AM Posts: 571 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original) The Madness replacement filter allows air flow through the end and has a built-in velocity stack. Yeah - read that - not 100% sure of its set up though - so didn't want to comment on the Madness unit and be wrong. In fact the velocity stack feature of the Madness is a plus over the GTT element as this doesn't have it. The GTT induction kit does has a Velocity stack (Ram Pipe) attached to the heatshield which the element goes over. MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:47 PM	#28 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 07:02 AM Posts: 571 Offline	You can't buy a lid by itself you have to buy the whole airbox. - That isn't just JCW - goes for stock airbox as well!! MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:19 PM	#33 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 07:02 AM Posts: 571 Offline	Tiny holes were required to mount the 3 long springs that hold the GTT element in place on the top cover of the airbox However - i'm sure Roland had changed this to little clips instead - will have a dig around for the thread! MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:28 PM	#36 (permalink)
MisterMINI Keith Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Upton, MA Local Time: 03:02 AM Posts: 249 Offline	I'm going for the MINI Madness straight replacement filter. Having to drill holes for the GTT sounds like too much of a mod to the VERY expensive JCW airbox. Another consideration is that my car still has 3.5 years of warranty remaining - I don't want to do anything that will void it. aka KeithP

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Sep 22nd, 2006, 01:46 PM	#21
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 2,698 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by venox22 (original) yes i did mine a couple of weeks ago, very worthwhile mod in my opinion Im concerned by the fact you have to drill holes into the airbox lid. And the whole filter arrangement is held together by three springs? In my mind it doesnt seem the most secure of arrangements. Anyone know how the Mini Madness replacement element is held on?

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Sep 22nd, 2006, 01:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 12:02 AM Posts: 8,510 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original) Anyone know how the Mini Madness replacement element is held on? Same way as the OEM filter element ...

Sep 22nd, 2006, 02:18 PM	#23 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 1,430 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original) Im concerned by the fact you have to drill holes into the airbox lid. And the whole filter arrangement is held together by three springs? In my mind it doesnt seem the most secure of arrangements. Anyone know how the Mini Madness replacement element is held on? Yeah did think that myself when assembleing it!!

Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 12:02 AM Posts: 8,510 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S (original) However the advantage of the GTT unit is that it can flow air through the end of it as well - this blanked off by the securing end cap in the OEM set up. The Madness replacement filter allows air flow through the end and has a built-in velocity stack.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:44 PM	#26 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 2,698 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original) The Madness replacement filter allows air flow through the end and has a built-in velocity stack. This GTT design is a bit mad for my liking, also butchering the airbox lid doesnt exactly allow you the option of swapping the filters back for servicing or warranty work. However, what holds the stock filter on, just that clip on the retaining end of it? Is it the same for the Mini madness option? Not held on my a jubilee clip of anything? Anyone know how much a new JCW airbox lid costs?

Sep 22nd, 2006, 03:58 PM	#29 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 2,698 Offline	Id like more info on the fitment of minimadness kit.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:06 PM	#30 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 12:02 AM Posts: 8,510 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original) Id like more info on the fitment of minimadness kit. It's so new I doubt many people have fitted one. I'd recommend contacting Madness directly with any questions.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:13 PM	#31 (permalink)
Capsaisin cave capsicum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crewe Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 3,366 Offline	Why do you need to drill holes in the JCW airbox, hasn't it got enough already? Why is it necessary to drill more for the GTT filter? There are already 3 very big holes, including one right at the top of the filter, which when fitting the GTT filter is positioned just right for flow through the top of the filter. So I don't understand why you need to drill more. Having just bought a JCW airbox, and being tempted by the GTT airfilter, I certainly have no intentions of drilling into what is essentially a very expensive plastic box and ruining it.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:18 PM	#32 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 2,698 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Capsaisin (original) Why do you need to drill holes in the JCW airbox, hasn't it got enough already? Why is it necessary to drill more for the GTT filter? There are already 3 very big holes, including one right at the top of the filter, which when fitting the GTT filter is positioned just right for flow through the top of the filter. So I don't understand why you need to drill more. Having just bought a JCW airbox, and being tempted by the GTT airfilter, I certainly have no intentions of drilling into what is essentially a very expensive plastic box and ruining it. The GTT filter comes in two bits, a cylindrical cone, and a round end plate. You have to drill three holes in airbox around intake pipe for plastic gromets that hold one end of a spring, and the other end of the spring goes onto the end plate of filter. So three springs hold the filter on and together.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:26 PM	#34 (permalink)
Capsaisin cave capsicum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crewe Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 3,366 Offline	Ah, OK I understand now. So possibly an inventive sort of person (aka bodger) might be able to fabricate an internal collar arrangement to anchor the springs, instead of drilling the airbox.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:28 PM	#35 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 2,698 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S (original) Tiny holes were required to mount the 3 long springs that hold the GTT element in place on the top cover of the airbox However - i'm sure Roland had changed this to little clips instead - will have a dig around for the thread! My emails not working to check with minimadness, and I 'm in UK so dont really want to ring them. I certainly wont be drilling holes if it means I cant go back to stock filter.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:31 PM	#37 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 07:02 AM Posts: 571 Offline	Heres the link regarding the new fitment of the GTT element Clicky MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:34 PM	#38 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 2,698 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S (original) Heres the link regarding the new fitment of the GTT element Clicky Yes, they are gromets, you still have to drill holes in airbox for them to attach to something!

Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:38 PM	#39 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 07:02 AM Posts: 571 Offline	Yup - thought it was very different from the previous installation method - so just posted it up. MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Sep 22nd, 2006, 07:19 PM	#40 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 2,698 Offline	Emailed Mini Madness to see how their alternative filter element fits. Will keep you updated.

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