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CWaldie · May 19th, 2006, 11:22 AM

Does anyone have one of these in their cars?

I'm interested in one... does it actually make any difference.

Also i thought the mini had something to hold the revs?

CWaldie · Jun 13th, 2006, 03:59 PM

Nope?

Lohen · Jun 13th, 2006, 04:51 PM

We run a Fidanza flywheel on our Cooper S show car. You will definately notice the difference. The car becomes a lot more rev happy. Drivability does change with fitting this, because it is lighter you will have to give it more revs in order to pull off from stand still successfully, which isn't ideal if you only drive your MINI through city streets.

If you require further information & pictures you can find it at this link below.

http://www.lohen.co.uk/shop/products.asp?cat=85

If you have any questions let us know, if you would like to try it first you will be able to in our Cooper S in mid July time if you would like to visit.

Cheers,
Nick

CWaldie · Jun 13th, 2006, 05:12 PM

Thanks for your help Nick

greyghost2004 · Jun 14th, 2006, 03:40 AM

What is the weight on that flywheel? I have head that if you go below 14 lbs you start to have some normal drivability issues.

Mark

Lohen · Jun 14th, 2006, 09:56 AM

It is 5kgs.

Nick

MiniBimmer · Jun 28th, 2006, 06:00 PM

Hello
With this alteration the car does not go to lose top speed?

Best Regards

Lohen · Jun 29th, 2006, 11:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer

Hello
With this alteration the car does not go to lose top speed?

Best Regards

No the top speed of the car does not alter. The lightened flywheel allows the engine to spin up faster as there is less mass, hence it will have a dramatic effect on the throttle responce of your car.

Andrey

MiniBimmer · Jun 29th, 2006, 05:39 PM

Hello
Thanks for the reply Andrey

Best Regards

supercoopers · Jun 29th, 2006, 05:57 PM

A lightened flywheel is great, but be aware that daily driveability will suffer a little, especially around town and on hill starts...if you go with an undampened clutch disk with the flywheel, expect some drivetrain 'chatter' when sat at the lights. It is less noticeable with the M7 flywheel, and louder with the lighter Fidanza for some reason. Just my take on the whole issue after having two cars with lightened flywheels. There's also a sensation of less torque at lower revs; this mod is primarily aimed at the track goer where the revs are kept above idle pretty much the whole way around the track (unless you end up in the kitty litter!)

Cheers,

Henry

Rickys'S · Jun 29th, 2006, 06:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supercoopers

A lightened flywheel is great, but be aware that daily driveability will suffer a little, especially around town and on hill starts...if you go with an undampened clutch disk with the flywheel, expect some drivetrain 'chatter' when sat at the lights. It is less noticeable with the M7 flywheel, and louder with the lighter Fidanza for some reason. Just my take on the whole issue after having two cars with lightened flywheels. There's also a sensation of less torque at lower revs; this mod is primarily aimed at the track goer where the revs are kept above idle pretty much the whole way around the track (unless you end up in the kitty litter!)

Cheers,

Henry

Yeah say all that again, don't get a solid clutch as you will be stalling very often, i now run a spec stage 2 clutch that is dampened, very good but it comes from the states so i got stung on custums and had to wait a long time for it.......just like everthing else i have now bought

Anyway a helix clutch is another good combo with the Fidanza

but remember to fit the Quaife when the box is out....a 16hr job in a standard garage was a joke

so always better to leave it in for a very long time

I also + my idle RPM 150rpm to help me pull away and idle nicely.

I wish i got Roland @ GTT to do it, as it was a totally cr*p job in a small garage

Ryephile · Jun 30th, 2006, 04:49 AM

I run the UUC [aka Fidanza] flywheel in my MCS. It's excellent for putting the power down and also keeps the amateurs embarassed when they stall the car, lol.

MiniBimmer · Jun 30th, 2006, 10:05 AM

Hello
I think it is a good modification

The Differential Quaife ATB also wanted to put, but my dealer it does not know if it gives to "install" in my car…
Which of the following options are more indicated: Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel with Helix Performance Clutch kit? OR Lightweight Flywheel John Cooper Motorsport with Race Clutch Plate John Cooper Motorsport?

Then when it is placed Lightweight Flywheel is advisable to also put a better Clutch. Correct?

Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel

Lightweight Flywheel John Cooper Motorsport

Helix Performance Clutch kit

Race Clutch Plate John Cooper Motorsport

Best Regards

MiniBimmer · Jul 7th, 2006, 10:48 AM

Hello
Forgive me...
But somebody can give an opinion to me on the sets on described? Thanks

Best Regards

Rickys'S · Jul 7th, 2006, 10:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer

Hello
Forgive me...
But somebody can give an opinion to me on the sets on described? Thanks

Best Regards

Helix And Fidanza....good combination IMO

roland2003 · Jul 7th, 2006, 11:48 AM

That JCW flywheel looks very much like its the Fidenza one red anodised?
What is the price difference? (The anodising would be about five pounds.)
Best Regards Roland GTT

MiniBimmer · Jul 7th, 2006, 01:01 PM

Hello
Thanks for the reply´s.
Flywheel JC -- £336.17 + VAT
Flywheel Fidenza -- £349 + VAT

The difference is minimum...

Do you know if Race Clutch Plate JC gives to daily use or is only for track use?

The JC Clutch is cheaper than the Helix. The difference is of £149.05, still it is well different. Find that the JC is an bad optionClutch?

Thanks

Best Regards

MiniBimmer · Jul 13th, 2006, 04:34 PM

Hello
Me again with doubts...

With Lightweight Flywheel the car goes to be with more vibrations?

Somebody can help me...

Best Regards

supercoopers · Jul 13th, 2006, 11:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer

Hello
Me again with doubts...

With Lightweight Flywheel the car goes to be with more vibrations?

Somebody can help me...

Best Regards

Unfortunately there will be a little more noise when the clutch is engaged, but that is part of the experience. There won't be much extra vibration though, at least not with the M7 flywheel which is slightly heavier than the Fidanza.

Cheers,

Henry

MiniBimmer · Jul 14th, 2006, 10:27 AM

Hello
Thanks for reply me supercoopers.

I have my stock Flywheel and I already have this noise when the clutch engaged. It was substituted by my local dealer and the noise continues…
Beyond this “problem” it does not have no inconvenience with the placement of Lightweight Flywheel?

Somebody already tried the Flywheel of John Cooper Motorsport or has some information about it?

Best Regards

May 19th, 2006, 11:22 AM	#1
CWaldie MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Attleborough Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 75 Offline	Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel. Does anyone have one of these in their cars? I'm interested in one... does it actually make any difference. Also i thought the mini had something to hold the revs?

Jun 13th, 2006, 04:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lohen New Mini Specialists Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Staffordshire, UK Local Time: 09:34 PM Posts: 855 Offline	We run a Fidanza flywheel on our Cooper S show car. You will definately notice the difference. The car becomes a lot more rev happy. Drivability does change with fitting this, because it is lighter you will have to give it more revs in order to pull off from stand still successfully, which isn't ideal if you only drive your MINI through city streets. If you require further information & pictures you can find it at this link below. http://www.lohen.co.uk/shop/products.asp?cat=85 If you have any questions let us know, if you would like to try it first you will be able to in our Cooper S in mid July time if you would like to visit. Cheers, Nick New MINI Specialists www.lohen.co.uk

Jun 14th, 2006, 09:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lohen New Mini Specialists Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Staffordshire, UK Local Time: 09:34 PM Posts: 855 Offline	It is 5kgs. Nick New MINI Specialists www.lohen.co.uk

Jun 29th, 2006, 11:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lohen New Mini Specialists Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Staffordshire, UK Local Time: 09:34 PM Posts: 855 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer Hello With this alteration the car does not go to lose top speed? Best Regards No the top speed of the car does not alter. The lightened flywheel allows the engine to spin up faster as there is less mass, hence it will have a dramatic effect on the throttle responce of your car. Andrey New MINI Specialists www.lohen.co.uk

Jul 7th, 2006, 11:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 09:34 PM Posts: 2,731 Offline	That JCW flywheel looks very much like its the Fidenza one red anodised? What is the price difference? (The anodising would be about five pounds.) Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

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Jun 13th, 2006, 03:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
CWaldie MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Attleborough Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 75 Offline	Nope?

Jun 13th, 2006, 05:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
CWaldie MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Attleborough Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 75 Offline	Thanks for your help Nick

Jun 14th, 2006, 03:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
greyghost2004 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Local Time: 02:34 PM Posts: 95 Offline	What is the weight on that flywheel? I have head that if you go below 14 lbs you start to have some normal drivability issues. Mark

Jun 28th, 2006, 06:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello With this alteration the car does not go to lose top speed? Best Regards

Jun 29th, 2006, 05:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Thanks for the reply Andrey Best Regards

Jun 29th, 2006, 05:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
supercoopers MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 09:34 PM Posts: 537 Offline	A lightened flywheel is great, but be aware that daily driveability will suffer a little, especially around town and on hill starts...if you go with an undampened clutch disk with the flywheel, expect some drivetrain 'chatter' when sat at the lights. It is less noticeable with the M7 flywheel, and louder with the lighter Fidanza for some reason. Just my take on the whole issue after having two cars with lightened flywheels. There's also a sensation of less torque at lower revs; this mod is primarily aimed at the track goer where the revs are kept above idle pretty much the whole way around the track (unless you end up in the kitty litter!) Cheers, Henry

Jun 29th, 2006, 06:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Rickys'S MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nailsea Local Time: 09:34 PM Posts: 369 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supercoopers A lightened flywheel is great, but be aware that daily driveability will suffer a little, especially around town and on hill starts...if you go with an undampened clutch disk with the flywheel, expect some drivetrain 'chatter' when sat at the lights. It is less noticeable with the M7 flywheel, and louder with the lighter Fidanza for some reason. Just my take on the whole issue after having two cars with lightened flywheels. There's also a sensation of less torque at lower revs; this mod is primarily aimed at the track goer where the revs are kept above idle pretty much the whole way around the track (unless you end up in the kitty litter!) Cheers, Henry Yeah say all that again, don't get a solid clutch as you will be stalling very often, i now run a spec stage 2 clutch that is dampened, very good but it comes from the states so i got stung on custums and had to wait a long time for it.......just like everthing else i have now bought Anyway a helix clutch is another good combo with the Fidanza but remember to fit the Quaife when the box is out....a 16hr job in a standard garage was a joke so always better to leave it in for a very long time I also + my idle RPM 150rpm to help me pull away and idle nicely. I wish i got Roland @ GTT to do it, as it was a totally cr*p job in a small garage

Jun 30th, 2006, 04:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ryephile Deals Gap Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Metro-Detroit Local Time: 05:34 PM Posts: 421 Offline	I run the UUC [aka Fidanza] flywheel in my MCS. It's excellent for putting the power down and also keeps the amateurs embarassed when they stall the car, lol.

Jun 30th, 2006, 10:05 AM	#13 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello I think it is a good modification The Differential Quaife ATB also wanted to put, but my dealer it does not know if it gives to "install" in my car… Which of the following options are more indicated: Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel with Helix Performance Clutch kit? OR Lightweight Flywheel John Cooper Motorsport with Race Clutch Plate John Cooper Motorsport? Then when it is placed Lightweight Flywheel is advisable to also put a better Clutch. Correct? Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel Lightweight Flywheel John Cooper Motorsport Helix Performance Clutch kit Race Clutch Plate John Cooper Motorsport Best Regards

Jul 7th, 2006, 10:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Forgive me... But somebody can give an opinion to me on the sets on described? Thanks Best Regards

Jul 7th, 2006, 10:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
Rickys'S MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nailsea Local Time: 09:34 PM Posts: 369 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer Hello Forgive me... But somebody can give an opinion to me on the sets on described? Thanks Best Regards Helix And Fidanza....good combination IMO

Jul 7th, 2006, 01:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Thanks for the reply´s. Flywheel JC -- £336.17 + VAT Flywheel Fidenza -- £349 + VAT The difference is minimum... Do you know if Race Clutch Plate JC gives to daily use or is only for track use? The JC Clutch is cheaper than the Helix. The difference is of £149.05, still it is well different. Find that the JC is an bad optionClutch? Thanks Best Regards

Jul 13th, 2006, 04:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Me again with doubts... With Lightweight Flywheel the car goes to be with more vibrations? Somebody can help me... Best Regards

Jul 13th, 2006, 11:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
supercoopers MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 09:34 PM Posts: 537 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer Hello Me again with doubts... With Lightweight Flywheel the car goes to be with more vibrations? Somebody can help me... Best Regards Unfortunately there will be a little more noise when the clutch is engaged, but that is part of the experience. There won't be much extra vibration though, at least not with the M7 flywheel which is slightly heavier than the Fidanza. Cheers, Henry

Jul 14th, 2006, 10:27 AM	#20 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 10:34 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Thanks for reply me supercoopers. I have my stock Flywheel and I already have this noise when the clutch engaged. It was substituted by my local dealer and the noise continues… Beyond this “problem” it does not have no inconvenience with the placement of Lightweight Flywheel? Somebody already tried the Flywheel of John Cooper Motorsport or has some information about it? Best Regards

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