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ScottishcooperS · May 20th, 2006, 12:26 AM

Hello dudes!

Just bought a GTT manifold from supercharged99

anyway my mate and me
decided we would tackle fitting it ourselves instead of paying someone else to
do it, im glad we did it ourselves

learnt alot!

The only trouble we ran into was due to the state of two rusty bolts that connected
the manifold the the exhaust! They just wouldnt turn and they were just falling apart
with ever touch! was pretty disapointing really! Anyway out came the grinder and
the drill, and they were then replaced with some lovely new STAINLESS steal
ones

Here are some pics of our adventure:

GTT manifold:

Old and new:

1 of 2 rusty bolts that caused havoc:

One of many techniques tried to overcome these:

Eventually out came the grinder: (dont try this at home)

My mate hard at work:

Cooper s over the pitt:

GTT sports cat, fitted:

GTT manifold in position before heat shield replaced:

Last min check before strut brace etc replaced:

What we had to do: (some of which unnecessary!)

Remove the following:

Strut brace
Heat shields
Coil pack
Lamba sensors
Standard manifold (Finally)

Then:

Replace all gasgets
Fit GTT manifold
Replace lamba sensors
Modify heat shield

Iv probably missed some of the things we did, has been a long day!

The results are very good, more responsive lower down and feels generally
quicker! the sound is lovely considering the exhaust is standard

Willie

gowest · May 20th, 2006, 02:59 AM

Not the prettiest header in the world but it looks very functional. Is the cat Stainless and what is the exit diameter? I wish the dollar exchange wasn't so bad now.

Good job on the install.

roland2003 · May 20th, 2006, 08:23 AM

Well fitted guys, !

We use a ground down 15mm ring spanner & loads of WD40.,so no need for grinding off anything (yet

!).
Go West ... note this was a secondhand item. Check our website to view it when new . Its the only TIG welded one I know of.
Best Regards Roland GTT

ScottishcooperS · May 20th, 2006, 11:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003

Well fitted guys, !

We use a ground down 15mm ring spanner & loads of WD40.,so no need for grinding off anything (yet

!).
Go West ... note this was a secondhand item. Check our website to view it when new . Its the only TIG welded one I know of.
Best Regards Roland GTT

Yeah this is a second hand item guys! yeah we did use loads of WD40, and tried
heating them up! Just wouldnt give.

My mates Dad is a qualified welder and the first thing he said was:

"Thats a quality piece of kit, the've used TIG welding intstead of MIG - very tidy!"

And he doesnt give compliments easily haha!!

Here is the GTT manifold Brand new:

Willie

LMB · May 20th, 2006, 11:14 AM

Any chance you'd be able to record how it sounds with the new Manifold?

ScottishcooperS · May 20th, 2006, 11:17 AM

Any tips on how i could go about doing that LMB? i'd be more than happy to
share

uncle albert · May 20th, 2006, 12:33 PM

Good job that man!

Very tempted myself, although worried it'll be a bit on the loud side with my Milltek cat-back. Plus I've got a few other mods lined up first.

James

ScottishcooperS · May 20th, 2006, 05:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by uncle albert

Good job that man!

Very tempted myself, although worried it'll be a bit on the loud side with my Milltek cat-back. Plus I've got a few other mods lined up first.

James

Cheers mate!

Im thinking of getting a milltek and im in the same boat, dont want it to be
too loud!

Been out driving in my car today and the manifold sounds amazing, really
love it!!

Willie

venox22 · Jun 27th, 2006, 01:59 PM

well fitted, only just managed to keep the grinder at bay doing mine!!!

One point, on mine there was about a 10-15mm gap between the cat-flange and exhaust centre pipe flange, when bolting the two together(with manifold bolted on at the head and the exhaust in its fixed position) i just used the 2 bolts to pull the exhaust and manifold together, did you have this problem???

Not sure if i will be causing extra strain on the manifold flex part??? Should i re-drill the exhaust centre mount plate so that there is less strain on the whole system??

TallAndy · Jun 27th, 2006, 02:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by venox22

well fitted, only just managed to keep the grinder at bay doing mine!!!

One point, on mine there was about a 10-15mm gap between the cat-flange and exhaust centre pipe flange, when bolting the two together(with manifold bolted on at the head and the exhaust in its fixed position) i just used the 2 bolts to pull the exhaust and manifold together, did you have this problem???

Not sure if i will be causing extra strain on the manifold flex part??? Should i re-drill the exhaust centre mount plate so that there is less strain on the whole system??

Whats your cat-back exhaust system? Mines JCW!

I had this exact same problem approx a 1cm gap we ended up using a flange spacer as tighening would put way too much stress on the flexi joint, possibly damaging it.

venox22 · Jun 27th, 2006, 03:16 PM

yeah mines a JCW cat back to

Think thats what i going to do then, where did you get the flange spacer??

TallAndy · Jun 27th, 2006, 03:22 PM

I got mine from Lohen £6 i think...

I believe GTT also have them

venox22 · Jun 27th, 2006, 03:47 PM

ok cool thanks for that!!

MiniBimmer · Jun 27th, 2006, 03:54 PM

Hello
Excellent work
You noticed much difference in the course of the car?

Best Regards

ScottishcooperS · Jun 29th, 2006, 06:37 PM

Hello,

Thanks mate. yeah i noticed a fair bit of difference, the manifold is off the car just now
as im getting warrenty work done, and iv noticed a big difference since taking it off
the car!

Willie

LMB · Jun 29th, 2006, 07:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS

Hello,

Thanks mate. yeah i noticed a fair bit of difference, the manifold is off the car just now
as im getting warrenty work done, and iv noticed a big difference since taking it off
the car!

Willie

Think they'd notice?

ScottishcooperS · Jun 29th, 2006, 08:20 PM

The exhaust hanger snapped so i was'nt giving them any excuses not to fix it,
they would have just said you've been tampering with the exhaust so we aint fixing
it.

the car is back and all fixed free of charge so im gonna put heat wrap on the
manifold then put it back on.

LMB · Jun 29th, 2006, 08:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS

The exhaust hanger snapped so i was'nt giving them any excuses not to fix it,
they would have just said you've been tampering with the exhaust so we aint fixing
it.

the car is back and all fixed free of charge so im gonna put heat wrap on the
manifold then put it back on.

Wise move then.

venox22 · Jun 29th, 2006, 09:00 PM

yeah definatly more than just a sound difference, one of the best things i brought. Gonna go for the GTT JCW airbox upgrade next me thinks!!

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer

Hello
Excellent work
You noticed much difference in the course of the car?

Best Regards

MiniBimmer · Jun 30th, 2006, 09:14 AM

Hello
Thanks for reply.
I´m thinking put 4-2-1 Sports Manifold + Intermediate CAT Pipe John Cooper Motorsport. In your opinion it is a good choice?

But first I go to put GTT JCW airbox

Note:I have Kit JCW 210Hp

Best Regards

May 20th, 2006, 12:26 AM	#1
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 388 Offline	Fitted my GTT manifold (loads of pics) Hello dudes! Just bought a GTT manifold from supercharged99 anyway my mate and me decided we would tackle fitting it ourselves instead of paying someone else to do it, im glad we did it ourselves learnt alot! The only trouble we ran into was due to the state of two rusty bolts that connected the manifold the the exhaust! They just wouldnt turn and they were just falling apart with ever touch! was pretty disapointing really! Anyway out came the grinder and the drill, and they were then replaced with some lovely new STAINLESS steal ones Here are some pics of our adventure: GTT manifold: Old and new: 1 of 2 rusty bolts that caused havoc: One of many techniques tried to overcome these: Eventually out came the grinder: (dont try this at home) My mate hard at work: Cooper s over the pitt: GTT sports cat, fitted: GTT manifold in position before heat shield replaced: Last min check before strut brace etc replaced: What we had to do: (some of which unnecessary!) Remove the following: Strut brace Heat shields Coil pack Lamba sensors Standard manifold (Finally) Then: Replace all gasgets Fit GTT manifold Replace lamba sensors Modify heat shield Iv probably missed some of the things we did, has been a long day! The results are very good, more responsive lower down and feels generally quicker! the sound is lovely considering the exhaust is standard Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e Last edited by MINIAC : May 24th, 2006 at 06:36 PM. Reason: Picture Posting Etiquette

May 20th, 2006, 02:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
gowest MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Va. Local Time: 12:39 PM Posts: 208 Offline	Not the prettiest header in the world but it looks very functional. Is the cat Stainless and what is the exit diameter? I wish the dollar exchange wasn't so bad now. Good job on the install. 2001 & 2002 SCCA, STS Pro Solo National Champion. 2003 SCCA, Solo2 Nationals 8th, co-driver (Courtney) 2nd in 03 & 04 2003 JCW 210, London Stainless Headers, custom cat back with 5" SuperTrapp, 15x7.5 SSR's and 16x8 ce28n's, Quaife, KW Comp 2 Ways Last edited by gowest : Jun 27th, 2006 at 03:12 PM.

May 20th, 2006, 08:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 2,736 Offline	Well fitted guys, ! We use a ground down 15mm ring spanner & loads of WD40.,so no need for grinding off anything (yet !). Go West ... note this was a secondhand item. Check our website to view it when new . Its the only TIG welded one I know of. Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

May 20th, 2006, 11:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 388 Offline	yup second hand. Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 Well fitted guys, ! We use a ground down 15mm ring spanner & loads of WD40.,so no need for grinding off anything (yet !). Go West ... note this was a secondhand item. Check our website to view it when new . Its the only TIG welded one I know of. Best Regards Roland GTT Yeah this is a second hand item guys! yeah we did use loads of WD40, and tried heating them up! Just wouldnt give. My mates Dad is a qualified welder and the first thing he said was: "Thats a quality piece of kit, the've used TIG welding intstead of MIG - very tidy!" And he doesnt give compliments easily haha!! Here is the GTT manifold Brand new: Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

May 20th, 2006, 11:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 24,895 Offline	Any chance you'd be able to record how it sounds with the new Manifold? Global Moderator

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May 20th, 2006, 11:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 388 Offline	Any tips on how i could go about doing that LMB? i'd be more than happy to share a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

May 20th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
uncle albert MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefrd/Bath/Cwmbran Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 818 Offline	Good job that man! Very tempted myself, although worried it'll be a bit on the loud side with my Milltek cat-back. Plus I've got a few other mods lined up first. James

May 20th, 2006, 05:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by uncle albert Good job that man! Very tempted myself, although worried it'll be a bit on the loud side with my Milltek cat-back. Plus I've got a few other mods lined up first. James Cheers mate! Im thinking of getting a milltek and im in the same boat, dont want it to be too loud! Been out driving in my car today and the manifold sounds amazing, really love it!! Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Jun 27th, 2006, 01:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	well fitted, only just managed to keep the grinder at bay doing mine!!! One point, on mine there was about a 10-15mm gap between the cat-flange and exhaust centre pipe flange, when bolting the two together(with manifold bolted on at the head and the exhaust in its fixed position) i just used the 2 bolts to pull the exhaust and manifold together, did you have this problem??? Not sure if i will be causing extra strain on the manifold flex part??? Should i re-drill the exhaust centre mount plate so that there is less strain on the whole system??

Jun 27th, 2006, 02:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 1,177 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by venox22 well fitted, only just managed to keep the grinder at bay doing mine!!! One point, on mine there was about a 10-15mm gap between the cat-flange and exhaust centre pipe flange, when bolting the two together(with manifold bolted on at the head and the exhaust in its fixed position) i just used the 2 bolts to pull the exhaust and manifold together, did you have this problem??? Not sure if i will be causing extra strain on the manifold flex part??? Should i re-drill the exhaust centre mount plate so that there is less strain on the whole system?? Whats your cat-back exhaust system? Mines JCW! I had this exact same problem approx a 1cm gap we ended up using a flange spacer as tighening would put way too much stress on the flexi joint, possibly damaging it.

Jun 27th, 2006, 03:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	yeah mines a JCW cat back to Think thats what i going to do then, where did you get the flange spacer??

Jun 27th, 2006, 03:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 1,177 Offline	I got mine from Lohen £6 i think... I believe GTT also have them

Jun 27th, 2006, 03:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	ok cool thanks for that!!

Jun 27th, 2006, 03:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Excellent work You noticed much difference in the course of the car? Best Regards

Jun 29th, 2006, 06:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 388 Offline	Hello, Thanks mate. yeah i noticed a fair bit of difference, the manifold is off the car just now as im getting warrenty work done, and iv noticed a big difference since taking it off the car! Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Jun 29th, 2006, 07:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 24,895 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS Hello, Thanks mate. yeah i noticed a fair bit of difference, the manifold is off the car just now as im getting warrenty work done, and iv noticed a big difference since taking it off the car! Willie Think they'd notice? Global Moderator

Jun 29th, 2006, 08:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 388 Offline	The exhaust hanger snapped so i was'nt giving them any excuses not to fix it, they would have just said you've been tampering with the exhaust so we aint fixing it. the car is back and all fixed free of charge so im gonna put heat wrap on the manifold then put it back on. a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Jun 29th, 2006, 08:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 24,895 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS The exhaust hanger snapped so i was'nt giving them any excuses not to fix it, they would have just said you've been tampering with the exhaust so we aint fixing it. the car is back and all fixed free of charge so im gonna put heat wrap on the manifold then put it back on. Wise move then. Global Moderator

Jun 29th, 2006, 09:00 PM	#19 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	yeah definatly more than just a sound difference, one of the best things i brought. Gonna go for the GTT JCW airbox upgrade next me thinks!! Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer Hello Excellent work You noticed much difference in the course of the car? Best Regards

Jun 30th, 2006, 09:14 AM	#20 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Thanks for reply. I´m thinking put 4-2-1 Sports Manifold + Intermediate CAT Pipe John Cooper Motorsport. In your opinion it is a good choice? But first I go to put GTT JCW airbox Note:I have Kit JCW 210Hp Best Regards

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