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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 01:28 PM   #1
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Yellow Cooper Better fuel economy when chipped (Myth or Fact)

Now theres loads of info out there about chipping your car will increase performance and also give better MPG.

This is true to a degree.

The only way you will see a better MPG is if you drive your car in the same style as you used to. But that requires you staying in the same gears as you used to till a certain speed then changing.
You will notice that you reach certain speeds at a lot less revs as you used to.
If like me you have you're foot to the floor and rev every gear to 5-6000 your fuel won't stick around for long.

I used to get around 300 miles to a tank.

Now I reach 220 maybe a few more on lucky days.

I am happy to give the extra petrol up for the performance i get now.

I am sure a lot of people will disagree with me but its so true

I would love to hear from other people with chipped MINI's and see what you get.
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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 01:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds about right mate to be honest I thought the same ''well ill just drive the same so the fuel won't be no different'' Wrong!!

Ive just filled mine right up so ill let you know what I get £20 the other day got me 150miles(ish) with mostly spirited driving, that was with 15miles left on the range too!!
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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 01:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey,

Ive got a chipped cooper with the mth tuner file. I get 250-260 to a tank, which is all i got even when i didn't have the chip.... So while the car 'feels' quicker, ive not gained or lost any economy.
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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 01:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So far then we have one on target and one waiting on results
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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 01:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think your comments are spot on the money Richard. It will only increase fuel economy if you drive in the same style as you did before.

If you utilise the extra power you will see your economy drop.

Simple as that.

It was acceptable in the 80's
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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 02:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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hrmm, well i thrashed the pants off mine before, and i still do the same.... but my fuel economy is the same....... ???????
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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 02:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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So true.....the economy is only driving the same as you did before the map.
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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 02:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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ive never properly worked out my MPG as dont have the trip computer and try to ignor how many miles i do as would probably depress me but i enjoy my chipped ONE so yay

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Old Jun 2nd, 2006, 07:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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noticed a couple of MPG better after chipping my cooper

not chipped the S yet but when I do will watch with eagle eyes

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Old Jun 4th, 2006, 09:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Your right it is bolloqs

The only way to improve mpg after a remap is to change up sooner, using the extra torque- as if thats going to happen, youve chipped it to go faster, and if you nail it you will use more fuel.
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Old Jun 5th, 2006, 09:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Richard22b

You will notice that you reach certain speeds at a lot less revs as you used to.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. Are you suggesting that after chipping, a car will drive at a given speed at lower rpms?

That would require a lot more than a chip, more like new gears in the transmission...

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Old Jun 5th, 2006, 09:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by twouptons
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. Are you suggesting that after chipping, a car will drive at a given speed at lower rpms?

That would require a lot more than a chip, more like new gears in the transmission...

-Eric

I think he just means you dont need to rev it so much to get to that speed as the engine produces more torque.
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Old Jun 5th, 2006, 11:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by twouptons
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. Are you suggesting that after chipping, a car will drive at a given speed at lower rpms?

That would require a lot more than a chip, more like new gears in the transmission...

-Eric

When a car is shipped they remap the way the engine works. Changes the fuel pumped into the engine and the timing for the spark plugs. So yes higher speeds at lower revs.
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Old Jun 6th, 2006, 02:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Richard not sure what you are trying to say as it's still confusing.

Picking figures out of thin air. If the car does 70mph at 3000rpm in 6th gear then a chip can in no way change this. The car will always do 70mph at 3000rpm in 6th gear.

This only way to change this would be with gearbox modifications.

The power and torque figures at given rpm's will change though and this could reduce the amount of time it takes to get to these speeds and rpms.

It was acceptable in the 80's
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Old Jun 6th, 2006, 03:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Guys,

Got my MCS chipped and havent looked back since.

The fuel economy is brilliant. Revs are low, but shes still whining load!!! Lovin it!

Would recommend, thus ive heard it depends on the car....

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Absolutely Root Ginger.

If as a result of the mod, the engine burns fuel more efficiently (i.e. less fuel releases the same energy for same air per combustion cycle, or put another way same amount of fuel releses more energy - the performance increase) than it did before, then less fuel will be needed per rev to maintain a constant speed.

That same engine revolution though, will still drive the car the same distance forward.

If that same mod generates more torque (throughout the rev range), then it would be possible to change up earlier (i.e at lower revs, so less fuel consumed) & this would also increase the potential for greater economy, if you chose to modify your driving style accordingly. So you could choose to use the mod to increase economy.

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Will doing 70mph in 3rd gear whilst enjoying the absolute ear pleasing roar of your induction kit improve fuel economy????

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No it doesn't.... but surely doing 70mph (the legal limit in the UK) in third and listening to your charger wail keeps the fuel down??!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts
No it doesn't.... but surely doing 70mph (the legal limit in the UK) in third and listening to your charger wail keeps the fuel down??!

Typing error meant 70

On that tank from the other day ive done 110miles(ish) and it's getting near half a tank, im guessing it's gunna be near 250+ to £40's worth

Couple of times ive had the air con on too with this heat, which won't help with the fuel economy
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Old Jun 7th, 2006, 07:23 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Knowing a few people with "chipped" MINIs...id say fact
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