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DCM · Jun 16th, 2006, 04:57 PM

Hi, I been thinking of getting the Lohen Stage one installed on my 2005 MCS, any of you guys got this fitted and if so are you happy with the results ?

Also as a side note, what kind of increase did it have on your insurance premium ?

Thanks

td2 · Jun 16th, 2006, 07:50 PM

brumm brumm bang

DCM · Jun 16th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by td2

brumm brumm bang

Just reading through your thread on the problems you had, kinda put me off

minipaul · Jun 16th, 2006, 09:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by td2

brumm brumm bang

i can see this attitude will be around for a while about lohen , out of order realy .

everyone is reading a couple of lines and thats it if you read on the lohen guys are going to repair the car FOC

DONT SEE ANYONE GOING ON ABOUT THAT BIG POINT

DCM · Jun 16th, 2006, 09:18 PM

no i have read all the thread and it does state in the initial post lohen are to rectify the problem but you cant blame people for being swayed, i am still considering them though!

JG.26 · Jun 16th, 2006, 09:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DCM

no i have read all the thread and it does state in the initial post lohen are to rectify the problem but you cant blame people for being swayed, i am still considering them though!

Think I'd wait until LOHEN find out what went wrong or save the Pennies and go JCW

minipaul · Jun 16th, 2006, 09:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DCM

no i have read all the thread and it does state in the initial post lohen are to rectify the problem but you cant blame people for being swayed, i am still considering them though!

but they are going to rectify the problem and that is the main thing .
the people at lohen are humen just like me and the rest of the world (well some of us )
and mistakes happen time to time

DCM · Jun 16th, 2006, 09:40 PM

yep i agree

JG.26 · Jun 16th, 2006, 09:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by minipaul

but they are going to rectify the problem and that is the main thing .
the people at lohen are humen just like me and the rest of the world (well some of us )
and mistakes happen time to time

Was going to go with the LOHEN kit but will definitely going JCW now, thats not to say it couldn't happen to the JCW kit but still never heard of a JCW conversion going wrong. I hope LOHEN find out what happened soon as it won't do future sales of their tuning kits much good.

UKC4 · Jun 16th, 2006, 10:38 PM

Even though Lohen do a very good job with their work, they could never beat A JCW warranty. (unless someone can put me right on that). But... then again I am considering getting there upper and lower OMP (I think) strut Braces.

DCM · Jun 16th, 2006, 11:08 PM

i just cant afford a jcw unfortunatley

UKC4 · Jun 16th, 2006, 11:23 PM

What Lohen need to do is set up a warranty, like JCW. were if anything goes wrong you are fully covered. They'd be rollin in gold then. aii (or do they do this already?)

TallAndy · Jun 17th, 2006, 10:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by UKC4

Even though Lohen do a very good job with their work, they could never beat A JCW warranty. (unless someone can put me right on that). But... then again I am considering getting there upper and lower OMP (I think) strut Braces.

Its funny warranty with JCW has been brought up. I had to have my centre JCW pipe and silencer replaced under warranty as the baffles failed inside it. I took it to my local dealer (Williams Bolton) and when they found out the JCW kit was fitted by JCG in West Sussex they REFUSED to carry out any warranty work on my vehicle as JCG are apparently not a BMW franchised dealership.

So I then took it to Bowker Preston and they sorted under warranty

So just a word of warning you can still run into problems as I did with stupid dealerships

Damo · Jun 18th, 2006, 12:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Penguinblue

Was going to go with the LOHEN kit but will definitely going JCW now, thats not to say it couldn't happen to the JCW kit but still never heard of a JCW conversion going wrong. I hope LOHEN find out what happened soon as it won't do future sales of their tuning kits much good.

Considering Lohen are sorting the problem out dont know what your issue is. Add a proper CAI and theres will be faster than a JCW anyway

JG.26 · Jun 18th, 2006, 11:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo

Considering Lohen are sorting the problem out dont know what your issue is. Add a proper CAI and theres will be faster than a JCW anyway

You pays your money and takes your choice,

I don't think BMW and JCG charge their customers 3k plus fitting for a laugh. Having looked at aftermarket kits for the S which consist of a few bolt on bits and pieces and look at the JCW kit you see where your money is going ie thorough engineering, new head, supercharger, injectors etc. You may get the same bang for buck (literally) by sticking a CAI, pulley, remap or whatever but the engine is basically the same. Don't care what anyone says, that the engine can take it etc, why didn't BMW make the S 210bhp in the first place?. The only way to achieve that sort of power output and maintain long term reliability, it's only 1600cc afterall is with stronger internals and thorough R & D which I'am sure BMW have done with JCW kit. I think what happened to Alex's S is a classic example.

Windy Miller · Jun 18th, 2006, 11:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo

Add a proper CAI and theres will be faster than a JCW anyway

'Yawn'

woodsy_bear · Jun 18th, 2006, 07:48 PM

I was the first person to have the Lohen stage 1 kit installed and I've never had a problem with it and thats including 3 track days.

I'd imagine all tuning companies have had something go wrong with their conversions including JCW. The only difference is your guaranteed a free fix with JCW, whilst you might not be with other companies, hence the big price for the JCW kit. But in this case Lohen have said they'd sort it, so whats the problem.

Rickys'S · Jun 19th, 2006, 12:10 PM

Most of this thread should be put onto another post in faults and fixes!

This thread is unfair to Lohen because some are talking about an old thread in another area or mini2!

DCM · Jun 19th, 2006, 12:46 PM

I only started the thread to get a general opinion on the LCS1 package, It has been pointed out several times in this thread that Lohen agreed to fix the issue in the other thread. I am only really after a general opinion of the performance increase and of course reliability of the kit which i think is a fair thing to ask!

I am still very tempted by the Lohen kit

HObzy · Jun 19th, 2006, 01:18 PM

Never had any problem with anything done by any of the aftermarket tuners i have used, Lohen and GTT included. I have however had to replace my JCW center section exhaust as my baffles have gone too. Also my conversion wasnt fitted properly by the dealer in the first place - vacuum line not attached. BMW said nowt wrong, JCW sorted it when i had the 210 upgrade. Nothings 100%. Good luck with whatever you choose. Whichever it will be the slippery slope!

Jun 16th, 2006, 04:57 PM	#1
DCM Ding Dang Do ! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mereyside Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 327 Offline	Lohen LCS1 upgrade Hi, I been thinking of getting the Lohen Stage one installed on my 2005 MCS, any of you guys got this fitted and if so are you happy with the results ? Also as a side note, what kind of increase did it have on your insurance premium ? Thanks

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td2 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 39 Offline	brumm brumm bang flatmate

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minipaul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: aberdeen, portlethen Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 186 Offline	@rse Quote: Originally Posted by td2 brumm brumm bang i can see this attitude will be around for a while about lohen , out of order realy . everyone is reading a couple of lines and thats it if you read on the lohen guys are going to repair the car FOC DONT SEE ANYONE GOING ON ABOUT THAT BIG POINT

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Jun 16th, 2006, 08:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
DCM Ding Dang Do ! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mereyside Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 327 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by td2 brumm brumm bang Just reading through your thread on the problems you had, kinda put me off

Jun 16th, 2006, 09:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
DCM Ding Dang Do ! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mereyside Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 327 Offline	no i have read all the thread and it does state in the initial post lohen are to rectify the problem but you cant blame people for being swayed, i am still considering them though!

Jun 16th, 2006, 09:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
JG.26 MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Virtual World Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,038 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DCM no i have read all the thread and it does state in the initial post lohen are to rectify the problem but you cant blame people for being swayed, i am still considering them though! Think I'd wait until LOHEN find out what went wrong or save the Pennies and go JCW

Jun 16th, 2006, 09:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
minipaul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: aberdeen, portlethen Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 186 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DCM no i have read all the thread and it does state in the initial post lohen are to rectify the problem but you cant blame people for being swayed, i am still considering them though! but they are going to rectify the problem and that is the main thing . the people at lohen are humen just like me and the rest of the world (well some of us ) and mistakes happen time to time

Jun 16th, 2006, 09:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
DCM Ding Dang Do ! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mereyside Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 327 Offline	yep i agree

Jun 16th, 2006, 09:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
JG.26 MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Virtual World Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,038 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by minipaul but they are going to rectify the problem and that is the main thing . the people at lohen are humen just like me and the rest of the world (well some of us ) and mistakes happen time to time Was going to go with the LOHEN kit but will definitely going JCW now, thats not to say it couldn't happen to the JCW kit but still never heard of a JCW conversion going wrong. I hope LOHEN find out what happened soon as it won't do future sales of their tuning kits much good.

Jun 16th, 2006, 10:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,316 Offline	Even though Lohen do a very good job with their work, they could never beat A JCW warranty. (unless someone can put me right on that). But... then again I am considering getting there upper and lower OMP (I think) strut Braces.

Jun 16th, 2006, 11:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
DCM Ding Dang Do ! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mereyside Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 327 Offline	i just cant afford a jcw unfortunatley

Jun 16th, 2006, 11:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,316 Offline	What Lohen need to do is set up a warranty, like JCW. were if anything goes wrong you are fully covered. They'd be rollin in gold then. aii (or do they do this already?)

Jun 17th, 2006, 10:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,183 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by UKC4 Even though Lohen do a very good job with their work, they could never beat A JCW warranty. (unless someone can put me right on that). But... then again I am considering getting there upper and lower OMP (I think) strut Braces. Its funny warranty with JCW has been brought up. I had to have my centre JCW pipe and silencer replaced under warranty as the baffles failed inside it. I took it to my local dealer (Williams Bolton) and when they found out the JCW kit was fitted by JCG in West Sussex they REFUSED to carry out any warranty work on my vehicle as JCG are apparently not a BMW franchised dealership. So I then took it to Bowker Preston and they sorted under warranty So just a word of warning you can still run into problems as I did with stupid dealerships

Jun 18th, 2006, 12:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 10,526 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Penguinblue Was going to go with the LOHEN kit but will definitely going JCW now, thats not to say it couldn't happen to the JCW kit but still never heard of a JCW conversion going wrong. I hope LOHEN find out what happened soon as it won't do future sales of their tuning kits much good. Considering Lohen are sorting the problem out dont know what your issue is. Add a proper CAI and theres will be faster than a JCW anyway

Jun 18th, 2006, 11:09 AM	#15 (permalink)
JG.26 MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Virtual World Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,038 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Damo Considering Lohen are sorting the problem out dont know what your issue is. Add a proper CAI and theres will be faster than a JCW anyway You pays your money and takes your choice, I don't think BMW and JCG charge their customers 3k plus fitting for a laugh. Having looked at aftermarket kits for the S which consist of a few bolt on bits and pieces and look at the JCW kit you see where your money is going ie thorough engineering, new head, supercharger, injectors etc. You may get the same bang for buck (literally) by sticking a CAI, pulley, remap or whatever but the engine is basically the same. Don't care what anyone says, that the engine can take it etc, why didn't BMW make the S 210bhp in the first place?. The only way to achieve that sort of power output and maintain long term reliability, it's only 1600cc afterall is with stronger internals and thorough R & D which I'am sure BMW have done with JCW kit. I think what happened to Alex's S is a classic example.

Jun 18th, 2006, 11:33 AM	#16 (permalink)
Windy Miller Feelin the force Join Date: May 2004 Location: Proud Preston Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 670 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Damo Add a proper CAI and theres will be faster than a JCW anyway 'Yawn'

Jun 18th, 2006, 07:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
woodsy_bear MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Midlands, UK Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 295 Offline	I was the first person to have the Lohen stage 1 kit installed and I've never had a problem with it and thats including 3 track days. I'd imagine all tuning companies have had something go wrong with their conversions including JCW. The only difference is your guaranteed a free fix with JCW, whilst you might not be with other companies, hence the big price for the JCW kit. But in this case Lohen have said they'd sort it, so whats the problem.

Jun 19th, 2006, 12:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
Rickys'S MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nailsea Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 369 Offline	Most of this thread should be put onto another post in faults and fixes! This thread is unfair to Lohen because some are talking about an old thread in another area or mini2!

Jun 19th, 2006, 12:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
DCM Ding Dang Do ! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mereyside Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 327 Offline	I only started the thread to get a general opinion on the LCS1 package, It has been pointed out several times in this thread that Lohen agreed to fix the issue in the other thread. I am only really after a general opinion of the performance increase and of course reliability of the kit which i think is a fair thing to ask! I am still very tempted by the Lohen kit

Jun 19th, 2006, 01:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
HObzy MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stressville Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,049 Offline	Never had any problem with anything done by any of the aftermarket tuners i have used, Lohen and GTT included. I have however had to replace my JCW center section exhaust as my baffles have gone too. Also my conversion wasnt fitted properly by the dealer in the first place - vacuum line not attached. BMW said nowt wrong, JCW sorted it when i had the 210 upgrade. Nothings 100%. Good luck with whatever you choose. Whichever it will be the slippery slope!

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