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minidon76 · Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:57 AM

DO it , do it , do it . this would wipe the smile off the s owners faces. n/a engine with that kind of power would sound awsome

and would be so much more responsive . i see allot of the s owners one here just say " why ! just buy an s " i personally have saved for ages for my mini and will not be selling it just to buy an s . i want to carry on owning my one and do everything i can with it

i would defo be interested

Capsaisin · Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by minidon76

DO it , do it , do it . this would wipe the smile off the s owners faces.

i would defo be interested

See thread above, viz review of GTT 260bhp conversion - not on a Mini One I suspect

Charlie Crocker · Jun 24th, 2006, 01:31 PM

Still be interested to see your progress with this one, just hope that the costs don't escalate to make it unviable. . . but good luck, I've been waiting a couple of years to see if anyone would actually get it together to do this. There has been talk of Turbo kits for ages and then the usual "will the gearbox, etc stand up to it" stuff. Guess you're confident everything wil be ok!!

How high maintenance do you reckon the setup will be? Still usable everyday?

Bayliner · Jun 25th, 2006, 08:12 PM

Isn't it a better idea to wait for the new engine?
The new engine has BMW's Valve tronic, so it doesn't have throtle bodies. Makes it a lot easyer to make an airbox. However valvetronic is limmited to a max rpm of I believe 7000rmp. The new engine will also be a lot better quality, since it is develloped by BMW and produced together with PSA. So it needs to be a very good engine, since a lot of people will by a car with this engine. Another advantage is double vanos, it will also be fitted to the new engine.
So what I'm trying to say is, maybee it is more interesting to make an engine swap and upgrade the new engine? Thatway you'll have a performace kit straight away for the new mini one/cooper drivers.

By the way, I like your idea of a high performace kit for the one and cooper. And I'll be very interested in it in the near future (once I have my own Mini). We have a Mini Cooper at home, but it's my parents car though they bought it for my sister and me. They don't agree on tuning it, fortunetly when we bought it it already had a pipercross powerfilter

. There's nothing like (the sound of) an n/a engine.

UKcoopeR · Jun 26th, 2006, 11:28 PM

would this also be availble in the US? i would love to have S power in a cooper shell ;-)

Pobsey · Jun 30th, 2006, 08:40 PM

Throttle bodies...

Like these

?

Richard22b · Jul 3rd, 2006, 10:21 AM

How cool do they look

Black_mini_one · Jul 4th, 2006, 10:59 AM

will engine need forged internals? if so why not go with a turbo? im sure you have already thought of this and decided its a bad idea, my question is why? i have been thinking of a turbo kit but 185bhp from an na engine sounds very interesting indeed!!! i may need to talk to the bank manager! :-)

NeoTheOne · Jul 5th, 2006, 08:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Pobsey

Throttle bodies...

Like these

?

mmmm... trumpets! bet they play a good tune! Is it someone on here's Mini?

Pobsey · Jul 5th, 2006, 08:11 PM

Don think so found the picture on a Greek Mini site

Charlie Crocker · Jul 6th, 2006, 01:45 AM

So any more news?!?!
Bump bump!

Blusox · Jul 7th, 2006, 10:07 AM

Whay hay, I'll probabbly be ringing you then! Not going to expect me to paint it purple and throw stickers on it are you?

budhafunksoulja · Jul 10th, 2006, 06:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NeoTheOne

mmmm... trumpets! bet they play a good tune! Is it someone on here's Mini?

It's the HPA GOKART from the states...

hpamotorsport.com

budhafunksoulja · Jul 19th, 2006, 05:47 PM

Any updates on this kit?

Charlie Crocker · Jul 23rd, 2006, 01:28 PM

BUMP!
Still no news?
Reading all the other posts about adding turbos and superchargers etc, the general consenesus seems to be this isn't likely to be cost effective.

Hope you uys can prove me wrong!!

Bayliner · Jul 23rd, 2006, 03:36 PM

I think modding the intake manifold will make a significant improvement, and shouldn't cost to mutch. With 2 throttle boddy's, instead of 4, one for cylinder 2 and 3 and one for cylinder 1 and four. Each their own (piper cross) power filter. If there's space, and I think there is, maybe it's possible to run the intake manifold over the engine, instead of between the engine and the radiator.
The filters should bee in an airbox, which is attached to the firewall, which is opened up for fresh air and increased sound.

MINIMANIAUK · Jul 23rd, 2006, 05:16 PM

yes 2 throttle bodies would also work better than stock,the 4 TBs has been done before and work really well ,the main cost is not in the TBs / manifold/ filter but in the engine internals/gearbox and having to replace head/manifold/cam/ exhaust to use the benefit of the 4 TBs.it all adds up cost wise and not likely to be a common thing for road use , untill prices drop on the older cars and warranty worries are a thing of the past

Bayliner · Jul 26th, 2006, 05:52 PM

Yes those warrenty's.....

But you know what, I don't care about warrenty's, if something brake's down I'll just have to fix it myself. And it may cost me a lot of money in the worst case. If you take good care of you're car I don't think you'll ever need the warrenty.
I'm not gonna let a warrenty spoil my fun

I know I'm going to do all maintenace myself, and take appart and moddify the whole car. When I finally have my own Mini that is

budhafunksoulja · Sep 7th, 2006, 11:35 PM

Bump!

So how is the project coming along?

budhafunksoulja · Sep 13th, 2006, 05:40 PM

Hayward Performance I.T.B.'s Individual Throttle Bodies Individual Throttle Systems Racing Throttle Systems

If I go with this set up, would my car still be street legal?

Jun 25th, 2006, 08:12 PM	#24 (permalink)
Bayliner MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 50 Offline	Engine swap? Isn't it a better idea to wait for the new engine? The new engine has BMW's Valve tronic, so it doesn't have throtle bodies. Makes it a lot easyer to make an airbox. However valvetronic is limmited to a max rpm of I believe 7000rmp. The new engine will also be a lot better quality, since it is develloped by BMW and produced together with PSA. So it needs to be a very good engine, since a lot of people will by a car with this engine. Another advantage is double vanos, it will also be fitted to the new engine. So what I'm trying to say is, maybee it is more interesting to make an engine swap and upgrade the new engine? Thatway you'll have a performace kit straight away for the new mini one/cooper drivers. By the way, I like your idea of a high performace kit for the one and cooper. And I'll be very interested in it in the near future (once I have my own Mini). We have a Mini Cooper at home, but it's my parents car though they bought it for my sister and me. They don't agree on tuning it, fortunetly when we bought it it already had a pipercross powerfilter . There's nothing like (the sound of) an n/a engine.

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Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:57 AM	#21
minidon76 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Local Time: 09:39 PM Posts: 34 Offline	DO it , do it , do it . this would wipe the smile off the s owners faces. n/a engine with that kind of power would sound awsome and would be so much more responsive . i see allot of the s owners one here just say " why ! just buy an s " i personally have saved for ages for my mini and will not be selling it just to buy an s . i want to carry on owning my one and do everything i can with it i would defo be interested

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Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:00 PM	#22 (permalink)
Capsaisin cave capsicum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crewe Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 3,364 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by minidon76 DO it , do it , do it . this would wipe the smile off the s owners faces. i would defo be interested See thread above, viz review of GTT 260bhp conversion - not on a Mini One I suspect

Jun 24th, 2006, 01:31 PM	#23 (permalink)
Charlie Crocker MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bristol Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 64 Offline	Still be interested to see your progress with this one, just hope that the costs don't escalate to make it unviable. . . but good luck, I've been waiting a couple of years to see if anyone would actually get it together to do this. There has been talk of Turbo kits for ages and then the usual "will the gearbox, etc stand up to it" stuff. Guess you're confident everything wil be ok!! How high maintenance do you reckon the setup will be? Still usable everyday?

Jun 26th, 2006, 11:28 PM	#25 (permalink)
UKcoopeR MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 7 Offline	would this also be availble in the US? i would love to have S power in a cooper shell ;-)

Jun 30th, 2006, 08:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
Pobsey The de Chromed MINI My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Staffordshire Local Time: 09:39 PM Posts: 3,207 Offline	Throttle bodies... Like these ?

Jul 3rd, 2006, 10:21 AM	#27 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 499 Offline	How cool do they look

Jul 4th, 2006, 10:59 AM	#28 (permalink)
Black_mini_one MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cumbria Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 97 Offline	will engine need forged internals? if so why not go with a turbo? im sure you have already thought of this and decided its a bad idea, my question is why? i have been thinking of a turbo kit but 185bhp from an na engine sounds very interesting indeed!!! i may need to talk to the bank manager! :-)

Jul 5th, 2006, 08:07 PM	#29 (permalink)
NeoTheOne Gone blue and french :D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newlands, Glasgow Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 257 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Pobsey Throttle bodies... Like these ? mmmm... trumpets! bet they play a good tune! Is it someone on here's Mini?

Jul 5th, 2006, 08:11 PM	#30 (permalink)
Pobsey The de Chromed MINI My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Staffordshire Local Time: 09:39 PM Posts: 3,207 Offline	Don think so found the picture on a Greek Mini site

Jul 6th, 2006, 01:45 AM	#31 (permalink)
Charlie Crocker MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bristol Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 64 Offline	So any more news?!?! Bump bump!

Jul 7th, 2006, 10:07 AM	#32 (permalink)
Blusox MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: South East Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 274 Offline	Whay hay, I'll probabbly be ringing you then! Not going to expect me to paint it purple and throw stickers on it are you?

Jul 10th, 2006, 06:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
budhafunksoulja MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Local Time: 09:39 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by NeoTheOne mmmm... trumpets! bet they play a good tune! Is it someone on here's Mini? It's the HPA GOKART from the states... hpamotorsport.com

Jul 19th, 2006, 05:47 PM	#34 (permalink)
budhafunksoulja MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Local Time: 09:39 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Any updates on this kit?

Jul 23rd, 2006, 01:28 PM	#35 (permalink)
Charlie Crocker MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bristol Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 64 Offline	BUMP! Still no news? Reading all the other posts about adding turbos and superchargers etc, the general consenesus seems to be this isn't likely to be cost effective. Hope you uys can prove me wrong!!

Jul 23rd, 2006, 05:16 PM	#37 (permalink)
MINIMANIAUK MINI2 Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Local Time: 09:39 PM Posts: 1,080 Offline	yes 2 throttle bodies would also work better than stock,the 4 TBs has been done before and work really well ,the main cost is not in the TBs / manifold/ filter but in the engine internals/gearbox and having to replace head/manifold/cam/ exhaust to use the benefit of the 4 TBs.it all adds up cost wise and not likely to be a common thing for road use , untill prices drop on the older cars and warranty worries are a thing of the past

Jul 26th, 2006, 05:52 PM	#38 (permalink)
Bayliner MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 50 Offline	Yes those warrenty's..... But you know what, I don't care about warrenty's, if something brake's down I'll just have to fix it myself. And it may cost me a lot of money in the worst case. If you take good care of you're car I don't think you'll ever need the warrenty. I'm not gonna let a warrenty spoil my fun I know I'm going to do all maintenace myself, and take appart and moddify the whole car. When I finally have my own Mini that is

Sep 7th, 2006, 11:35 PM	#39 (permalink)
budhafunksoulja MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Local Time: 09:39 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Bump! So how is the project coming along?

Sep 13th, 2006, 05:40 PM	#40 (permalink)
budhafunksoulja MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Local Time: 09:39 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Hayward Performance I.T.B.'s Individual Throttle Bodies Individual Throttle Systems Racing Throttle Systems If I go with this set up, would my car still be street legal?

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