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Robboc · Jul 1st, 2006, 02:51 PM

I am now the proud owner of a Cooper S. I have had a few cars in my time, but never have I had such a fun car to drive. I was torn between a cooper S and a Lotus Elise. Practicallity made me pick the Mini and after a few weeks of driving it I am sure I made the right choice.

I am now wondering what to do to give it a little more grunt. I really dont want to go too mad and ruin any warranty but a few more hp would be nice.

In your experience what would be the best tweaks to carry out first? I am thinking perhaps an induction kit to start off (K&N I guess). Would this void my warranty/TLC?

Any advice appreciated.

Sweeney · Jul 1st, 2006, 03:08 PM

it won't "void" your warranty, although if you suffer any malfunctions related to the kit or something which the kit could cause it'd be fixed out of your pocket, not BMW's.

JCW Products retain bmw warranty and are priced to account for that

.

Although make sure you tell your insurance about any modifications as well :P

Matt LHA · Jul 1st, 2006, 04:56 PM

JCW are selling the JCW panel filter for the S for £20 delivered... bargain tweak

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go on clearance items in the motorsport bit...

minicore · Jul 1st, 2006, 05:15 PM

I'm running a group buy for the Alta cold air intake at the moment with Lohen, for £189.80 delivered, saving nearly £40. Last orders will be taken on Tuesday. More details (and video) in this thread: http://www.mini2.com/forum/group-buy...nterested.html

Robboc · Jul 1st, 2006, 06:16 PM

Is that better than the K&N kit? K&N is much cheaper. The 57I 57-0463 appears to be about £87.00

minicore · Jul 1st, 2006, 06:23 PM

Don't have any experience with the K&N - I went for the Alta based on how it makes the supercharger scream like a banshee...

Try doing a search - plenty of people have expressed their opinion on the CAI, pretty much all of which has been good I think.

Robboc · Jul 1st, 2006, 07:57 PM

I think the K&N is a CAI just like the Alta.

SiBradbury · Jul 1st, 2006, 08:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Robboc

Is that better than the K&N kit? K&N is much cheaper. The 57I 57-0463 appears to be about £87.00

You'll notice that K&N list a different kit for the Mini One and the Cooper, the Cooper kit being dearer of the two. Well they are IDENTICAL kits with different part numbers but you didn't hear it from me, right?

*ROCKET* · Jul 3rd, 2006, 12:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Robboc

I think the K&N is a CAI just like the Alta.

k&n for the s is about £210 quid while one and cooper is £100 57i -£180 - typhoon

SiBradbury · Jul 3rd, 2006, 07:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by *ROCKET*

k&n for the s is about £210 quid while one and cooper is £100 57i -£180 - typhoon

The advantage between the 57i & the Typhoon on the One/Cooper aren't very obvious. The typhoon appears similar except its a bit prettier to look at because it's anodised metal instead of plastic.

*ROCKET* · Jul 3rd, 2006, 09:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sibradbury

The advantage between the 57i & the Typhoon on the One/Cooper aren't very obvious. The typhoon appears similar except its a bit prettier to look at because it's anodised metal instead of plastic.

57i gives a bit more torque and a nice niose while the typhoon is good for a few more horses 3-4 as it has a second filter on the top - or so the k&n webby suggets

SiBradbury · Jul 5th, 2006, 08:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by *ROCKET*

57i gives a bit more torque and a nice niose while the typhoon is good for a few more horses 3-4 as it has a second filter on the top - or so the k&n webby suggets

Last time I looked at the Cooper typhoon, it just appeared to be an anodised metal version of the 57i. Maybe they've changed them to justify the price difference?

typhoon:
http://kandn.com/images/l/69-2020TR.jpg

57i
http://kandn.com/images/l/57-0331-1.jpg

tom2005 · Jul 5th, 2006, 04:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Matt LHA

JCW are selling the JCW panel filter for the S for £20 delivered... bargain tweak

.
go on clearance items in the motorsport bit...

Hi Matt

I couldnt see them on there? Have you got a link to them please

GR33NIE · Jul 5th, 2006, 04:39 PM

My dealer told me that my filter would void my TLC

Oh well im leaving it on anyway cause it sounds so good

Apparently it's stated in the TLC handbook that any modifications (Not MINI Approved) Will invalidate the TLC policy

Robboc · Jul 5th, 2006, 08:15 PM

Perhaps I am being a bit dumb, but I just dont see how there can be such a huge price difference between different induction kits.

http://www.lohen.co.uk/shop/products.asp?cat=54

How can the Pipercross be £98 whilst the Alta is £215. Surely there is not that much difference.

*ROCKET* · Jul 5th, 2006, 11:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Robboc

Perhaps I am being a bit dumb, but I just dont see how there can be such a huge price difference between different induction kits.

http://www.lohen.co.uk/shop/products.asp?cat=54

How can the Pipercross be £98 whilst the Alta is £215. Surely there is not that much difference.

the alta one is generlay thought of as a lot better than the pipercross and has i proper kevalr hose feed as well which you have to by for piper cross

*ROCKET* · Jul 5th, 2006, 11:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GR33NIE

My dealer told me that my filter would void my TLC

Oh well im leaving it on anyway cause it sounds so good

Apparently it's stated in the TLC handbook that any modifications (Not MINI Approved) Will invalidate the TLC policy

yeah same mate but im of the smae thought and was like stuff the dealer as most of my cars work has been done else where any way and oil changes i will do my self

*ROCKET* · Jul 5th, 2006, 11:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sibradbury

Last time I looked at the Cooper typhoon, it just appeared to be an anodised metal version of the 57i. Maybe they've changed them to justify the price difference?

typhoon:
http://kandn.com/images/l/69-2020TR.jpg

57i
http://kandn.com/images/l/57-0331-1.jpg

heres a pic that shows the filter on top of the typhoon as my 57i just has a chrome top plate http://kandn.com/images/l/69-2020TS.jpg

Parc77 · Jul 5th, 2006, 11:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by *ROCKET*

yeah same mate but im of the smae thought and was like stuff the dealer as most of my cars work has been done else where any way and oil changes i will do my self

Depends on how customer Friendly and focused the dealership is....the better ones dont mind the odd mod...some turn a blind eye to more...just try not to take the you know what.

SiBradbury · Jul 5th, 2006, 11:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by *ROCKET*

heres a pic that shows the filter on top of the typhoon as my 57i just has a chrome top plate http://kandn.com/images/l/69-2020TS.jpg

Looks like they HAVE changed it. It was hard to justify the price difference before. Still is for that matter!!!7

Jul 1st, 2006, 02:51 PM	#1
Robboc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Epsom, Surrey Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 276 Offline	A few cheap tweaks? I am now the proud owner of a Cooper S. I have had a few cars in my time, but never have I had such a fun car to drive. I was torn between a cooper S and a Lotus Elise. Practicallity made me pick the Mini and after a few weeks of driving it I am sure I made the right choice. I am now wondering what to do to give it a little more grunt. I really dont want to go too mad and ruin any warranty but a few more hp would be nice. In your experience what would be the best tweaks to carry out first? I am thinking perhaps an induction kit to start off (K&N I guess). Would this void my warranty/TLC? Any advice appreciated.

Jul 1st, 2006, 03:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sweeney MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bothwell, Glasgow Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 85 Offline	it won't "void" your warranty, although if you suffer any malfunctions related to the kit or something which the kit could cause it'd be fixed out of your pocket, not BMW's. JCW Products retain bmw warranty and are priced to account for that . Although make sure you tell your insurance about any modifications as well :P New Mini Scotland!

Jul 1st, 2006, 05:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
minicore Eat my dust. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lancashire Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 2,091 Offline	I'm running a group buy for the Alta cold air intake at the moment with Lohen, for £189.80 delivered, saving nearly £40. Last orders will be taken on Tuesday. More details (and video) in this thread: http://www.mini2.com/forum/group-buy...nterested.html Now driving a 2006 Brabus Roadster Coupe PW/B Cooper S Works has gone to its new home!

Jul 1st, 2006, 06:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
minicore Eat my dust. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lancashire Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 2,091 Offline	Don't have any experience with the K&N - I went for the Alta based on how it makes the supercharger scream like a banshee... Try doing a search - plenty of people have expressed their opinion on the CAI, pretty much all of which has been good I think. Now driving a 2006 Brabus Roadster Coupe PW/B Cooper S Works has gone to its new home!

Jul 5th, 2006, 04:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
GR33NIE Polo GT Owner! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 09:37 PM Posts: 3,860 Offline	My dealer told me that my filter would void my TLC Oh well im leaving it on anyway cause it sounds so good Apparently it's stated in the TLC handbook that any modifications (Not MINI Approved) Will invalidate the TLC policy ::MINI Sold! Polo GT Owner::

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Jul 1st, 2006, 04:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Matt LHA MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 09:37 PM Posts: 111 Offline	JCW are selling the JCW panel filter for the S for £20 delivered... bargain tweak . go on clearance items in the motorsport bit...

Jul 1st, 2006, 06:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Robboc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Epsom, Surrey Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 276 Offline	Is that better than the K&N kit? K&N is much cheaper. The 57I 57-0463 appears to be about £87.00

Jul 1st, 2006, 07:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Robboc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Epsom, Surrey Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 276 Offline	I think the K&N is a CAI just like the Alta.

Jul 1st, 2006, 08:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
SiBradbury "I'm kind of a big deal" My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wirral Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 1,151 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Robboc Is that better than the K&N kit? K&N is much cheaper. The 57I 57-0463 appears to be about £87.00 You'll notice that K&N list a different kit for the Mini One and the Cooper, the Cooper kit being dearer of the two. Well they are IDENTICAL kits with different part numbers but you didn't hear it from me, right?

Jul 3rd, 2006, 12:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
ROCKET mostly sideways Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: burining rubber Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 38 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Robboc I think the K&N is a CAI just like the Alta. k&n for the s is about £210 quid while one and cooper is £100 57i -£180 - typhoon

Jul 3rd, 2006, 07:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
SiBradbury "I'm kind of a big deal" My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wirral Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 1,151 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by *ROCKET* k&n for the s is about £210 quid while one and cooper is £100 57i -£180 - typhoon The advantage between the 57i & the Typhoon on the One/Cooper aren't very obvious. The typhoon appears similar except its a bit prettier to look at because it's anodised metal instead of plastic.

Jul 3rd, 2006, 09:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
ROCKET mostly sideways Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: burining rubber Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 38 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sibradbury The advantage between the 57i & the Typhoon on the One/Cooper aren't very obvious. The typhoon appears similar except its a bit prettier to look at because it's anodised metal instead of plastic. 57i gives a bit more torque and a nice niose while the typhoon is good for a few more horses 3-4 as it has a second filter on the top - or so the k&n webby suggets

Jul 5th, 2006, 08:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
SiBradbury "I'm kind of a big deal" My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wirral Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 1,151 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by *ROCKET* 57i gives a bit more torque and a nice niose while the typhoon is good for a few more horses 3-4 as it has a second filter on the top - or so the k&n webby suggets Last time I looked at the Cooper typhoon, it just appeared to be an anodised metal version of the 57i. Maybe they've changed them to justify the price difference? typhoon: http://kandn.com/images/l/69-2020TR.jpg 57i http://kandn.com/images/l/57-0331-1.jpg

Jul 5th, 2006, 04:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
tom2005 SUPERcharged My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Herts Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 312 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Matt LHA JCW are selling the JCW panel filter for the S for £20 delivered... bargain tweak . go on clearance items in the motorsport bit... Hi Matt I couldnt see them on there? Have you got a link to them please

Jul 5th, 2006, 08:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
Robboc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Epsom, Surrey Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 276 Offline	Perhaps I am being a bit dumb, but I just dont see how there can be such a huge price difference between different induction kits. http://www.lohen.co.uk/shop/products.asp?cat=54 How can the Pipercross be £98 whilst the Alta is £215. Surely there is not that much difference.

Jul 5th, 2006, 11:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
ROCKET mostly sideways Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: burining rubber Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 38 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Robboc Perhaps I am being a bit dumb, but I just dont see how there can be such a huge price difference between different induction kits. http://www.lohen.co.uk/shop/products.asp?cat=54 How can the Pipercross be £98 whilst the Alta is £215. Surely there is not that much difference. the alta one is generlay thought of as a lot better than the pipercross and has i proper kevalr hose feed as well which you have to by for piper cross

Jul 5th, 2006, 11:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
ROCKET mostly sideways Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: burining rubber Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 38 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GR33NIE My dealer told me that my filter would void my TLC Oh well im leaving it on anyway cause it sounds so good Apparently it's stated in the TLC handbook that any modifications (Not MINI Approved) Will invalidate the TLC policy yeah same mate but im of the smae thought and was like stuff the dealer as most of my cars work has been done else where any way and oil changes i will do my self

Jul 5th, 2006, 11:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
ROCKET mostly sideways Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: burining rubber Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 38 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sibradbury Last time I looked at the Cooper typhoon, it just appeared to be an anodised metal version of the 57i. Maybe they've changed them to justify the price difference? typhoon: http://kandn.com/images/l/69-2020TR.jpg 57i http://kandn.com/images/l/57-0331-1.jpg heres a pic that shows the filter on top of the typhoon as my 57i just has a chrome top plate http://kandn.com/images/l/69-2020TS.jpg

Jul 5th, 2006, 11:14 PM	#19 (permalink)
Parc77 MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 09:37 PM Posts: 2,345 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by *ROCKET* yeah same mate but im of the smae thought and was like stuff the dealer as most of my cars work has been done else where any way and oil changes i will do my self Depends on how customer Friendly and focused the dealership is....the better ones dont mind the odd mod...some turn a blind eye to more...just try not to take the you know what.

Jul 5th, 2006, 11:59 PM	#20 (permalink)
SiBradbury "I'm kind of a big deal" My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wirral Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 1,151 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by *ROCKET* heres a pic that shows the filter on top of the typhoon as my 57i just has a chrome top plate http://kandn.com/images/l/69-2020TS.jpg Looks like they HAVE changed it. It was hard to justify the price difference before. Still is for that matter!!!7

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