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Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 03:06 PM

I noticed that both the Mini One & Cooper use the W10 (an engine code) engine.
Though there is a 25bhp difference between then two. Now I thoguht it was down to an airintake & the ECU, but i've been told its to do with the Mass Air Flow Meter (MAF)
If I were to replace a Mini One's MAF with a Cooper's, would this mean the 25bhp difference? Or is it a pile of sh*t?

BlueZed · Jul 7th, 2006, 03:31 PM

It's the smelly one...ECU settings are what is different. These take the readings from the MAF meter and fuel accordingly.

Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 03:32 PM

So if the MAF was changed along with a Cooper ECU, it would give a boost in power?

Paul · Jul 7th, 2006, 03:46 PM

Very early on in the days of chip tuning it was found you could take the codes from the Cooper, put them on a One, and voila, Cooper power. No other changes required. This is how SuperChips (who I think got there first) did their tuning, simply downloaded both programmes, compared the two, make the numbers match, and uploaded the new map.

Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 03:49 PM

So if I took a One to them, i could get Cooper power?

Paul · Jul 7th, 2006, 03:49 PM

Pretty much any chip tuner will do it, and more if you want to take it further.

Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 03:51 PM

Thanks for that info!

Richard22b · Jul 7th, 2006, 03:58 PM

The difference between my MINI ONE and a cooper is that my ONE is quicker

Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 04:04 PM

Is yellow the faster colour? :P

What mods have you done?

cleverzippy · Jul 7th, 2006, 04:11 PM

Or buy a Cooper S and make them both eat your dust.

Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 04:25 PM

I would buy one if I could get the insurance! lol

Richard22b · Jul 7th, 2006, 04:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Aidan316i

Is yellow the faster colour? :P

What mods have you done?

Yellow is much faster colour

I got my ECU remaped.

I have a custom dual exhaust.

Plus an induction kit.

Its goes great. just pulls and pulls.

Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 04:37 PM

What is the induction kit? K&N?

I would be consdering getting a custom exhaust and an air filter on my One (when I get it)

Richard22b · Jul 7th, 2006, 04:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Aidan316i

What is the induction kit? K&N?

I would be consdering getting a custom exhaust and an air filter on my One (when I get it)

My induction is called Supra RamAir.

Their a racing company.

My exhaust is PowerFlow and then custom fitted to the car with stainless steel pipes.

Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 04:56 PM

never heard of Supra Ramair, but would you recommend them?

Richard22b · Jul 7th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Aidan316i

never heard of Supra Ramair, but would you recommend them?

Yer i've had no problems with it. sounds great.

Aidan316i · Jul 7th, 2006, 09:02 PM

How much bhp have you gained from this airintake, exhaust & remap?

Richard22b · Jul 7th, 2006, 09:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Aidan316i

How much bhp have you gained from this airintake, exhaust & remap?

Haven't had it on a Dyno yet but predicting around 140BHP which is a 50BHP increase.

The biggest difference is made by the ECU remap.

I'd say the induction plus exhaust adds 10-15 BHP.

cleverzippy · Jul 8th, 2006, 02:07 PM

If you're planning to keep the car, don't forget that your gearbox might be prone to going kaput if you're putting that sort of power through it.

Richard22b · Jul 8th, 2006, 02:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cleverzippy

If you're planning to keep the car, don't forget that your gearbox might be prone to going kaput if you're putting that sort of power through it.

that's very true but so far ive had no probs with mine. I think if i went much over 150 BHP id start tempting fate.

Jul 7th, 2006, 03:06 PM	#1
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	ONE/Cooper Difference I noticed that both the Mini One & Cooper use the W10 (an engine code) engine. Though there is a 25bhp difference between then two. Now I thoguht it was down to an airintake & the ECU, but i've been told its to do with the Mass Air Flow Meter (MAF) If I were to replace a Mini One's MAF with a Cooper's, would this mean the 25bhp difference? Or is it a pile of sh*t?

Jul 7th, 2006, 03:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
BlueZed Staying shiny-side up! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dublin Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 121 Offline	It's the smelly one...ECU settings are what is different. These take the readings from the MAF meter and fuel accordingly. What new bits? I didn't buy any new bits...

Jul 7th, 2006, 03:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 40,354 Online	Very early on in the days of chip tuning it was found you could take the codes from the Cooper, put them on a One, and voila, Cooper power. No other changes required. This is how SuperChips (who I think got there first) did their tuning, simply downloaded both programmes, compared the two, make the numbers match, and uploaded the new map. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Jul 7th, 2006, 03:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 40,354 Online	Pretty much any chip tuner will do it, and more if you want to take it further. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

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Jul 7th, 2006, 03:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	So if the MAF was changed along with a Cooper ECU, it would give a boost in power?

Jul 7th, 2006, 03:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	So if I took a One to them, i could get Cooper power?

Jul 7th, 2006, 03:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	Thanks for that info!

Jul 7th, 2006, 03:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 499 Offline	The difference between my MINI ONE and a cooper is that my ONE is quicker

Jul 7th, 2006, 04:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	Is yellow the faster colour? :P What mods have you done?

Jul 7th, 2006, 04:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
cleverzippy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kettering, Northants Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 178 Offline	Or buy a Cooper S and make them both eat your dust.

Jul 7th, 2006, 04:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	I would buy one if I could get the insurance! lol

Jul 7th, 2006, 04:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 499 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Aidan316i Is yellow the faster colour? :P What mods have you done? Yellow is much faster colour I got my ECU remaped. I have a custom dual exhaust. Plus an induction kit. Its goes great. just pulls and pulls.

Jul 7th, 2006, 04:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	What is the induction kit? K&N? I would be consdering getting a custom exhaust and an air filter on my One (when I get it)

Jul 7th, 2006, 04:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 499 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Aidan316i What is the induction kit? K&N? I would be consdering getting a custom exhaust and an air filter on my One (when I get it) My induction is called Supra RamAir. Their a racing company. My exhaust is PowerFlow and then custom fitted to the car with stainless steel pipes.

Jul 7th, 2006, 04:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	never heard of Supra Ramair, but would you recommend them?

Jul 7th, 2006, 08:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 499 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Aidan316i never heard of Supra Ramair, but would you recommend them? Yer i've had no problems with it. sounds great.

Jul 7th, 2006, 09:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
Aidan316i BMW Nut who wants a Mini? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derry, N.I Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 77 Offline	How much bhp have you gained from this airintake, exhaust & remap?

Jul 7th, 2006, 09:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 499 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Aidan316i How much bhp have you gained from this airintake, exhaust & remap? Haven't had it on a Dyno yet but predicting around 140BHP which is a 50BHP increase. The biggest difference is made by the ECU remap. I'd say the induction plus exhaust adds 10-15 BHP.

Jul 8th, 2006, 02:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
cleverzippy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kettering, Northants Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 178 Offline	If you're planning to keep the car, don't forget that your gearbox might be prone to going kaput if you're putting that sort of power through it.

Jul 8th, 2006, 02:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 499 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cleverzippy If you're planning to keep the car, don't forget that your gearbox might be prone to going kaput if you're putting that sort of power through it. that's very true but so far ive had no probs with mine. I think if i went much over 150 BHP id start tempting fate.

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