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herbie hind · Jul 15th, 2006, 10:51 PM

okay who likes what plugs for the "s" ? ngk? denso? comments please it's almost that time .

obehave · Jul 16th, 2006, 03:41 AM

I have the Denso Iridiums.
They've done well.

herbie hind · Jul 16th, 2006, 03:43 AM

cool thx

St00ge · Jul 16th, 2006, 07:34 AM

i have the denso ik22s. Its been about 4000km of hard and easy use, and they've been fine...

Baker · Jul 16th, 2006, 10:39 AM

I had a set of Denso Iridium IK-22's, but when I recently had a problem where I blew a plug through the head I had to get some plugs ASAP, could not get stock of the IK-22 so now I'm running the NGK Iridium, the same as they run in the JCW conversions.

herbie hind · Jul 16th, 2006, 03:01 PM

was it due to plug failure? hope all is well now
.thx.

Capsaisin · Jul 16th, 2006, 07:38 PM

I don't want to get sued, so this is pure hearsay.
I have heard that Denso Iridiums MAY cause problems with blown plugs, as per the post from Baker.
So it my own personal opinion and with no proof that NGK are better than Denso, that I would personally prefer the NGK Iridium plugs. I would personally hate to run the risk of a blown plug, of any manufacture.
Other peoples opinions may differ.

herbie hind · Jul 16th, 2006, 09:00 PM

i'm getting that impresion from other threads too thx .

Baker · Jul 17th, 2006, 12:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Capsaisin

I don't want to get sued, so this is pure hearsay.
I have heard that Denso Iridiums MAY cause problems with blown plugs, as per the post from Baker.
So it my own personal opinion and with no proof that NGK are better than Denso, that I would personally prefer the NGK Iridium plugs. I would personally hate to run the risk of a blown plug, of any manufacture.
Other peoples opinions may differ.

There are a couple of opinions on this, mostly coming from NAM. It was found that a certain batch of heads had a slight metalurgy problem, in which if they got too hot they basically allowed the plug to work loose, which then allows it to blow out the relatively weak thread. Originally this problem was being attributed to the Denso Iridium IK-22 plugs, but then it was found that similar things had also happened on other branded plugs (its just the majority of people were using IK-22's after getting a pulley installed by Randy Webb). It was even found, to a lesser degree, that people with stock cars were getting loose plugs due to the issue.

Personally I'm attributing it to a head failure, not a plug failure. If you look at the damage I suffered as well, it also destroyed three quarters of a spark plug lead!

On saying that; looking at the plugs externally the NGK looks nicer; having four points to create the spark from instead of just the one on the Denso. Will it help? Who knows; a dyno will not tell you, and you cannot trust the manufacturers to tell you. Down to personal preferance.

UKC4 · Jul 17th, 2006, 11:25 PM

I have a MC Standard engine compartment wise (No ECU Re-maps yet) all I have it a Milltek exhaust. Would it be ok for me to put Iridium plugs in to my car? And if it is ok can you tell a difference when they are in (Performance etc)?

Baker · Jul 18th, 2006, 02:19 AM

If you've got no engine mods there is no real point to putting Iridium plugs in, other than you get a longer plug life. You'll not get any difference power wise at all.

lemoncoke · Jul 21st, 2006, 05:41 PM

What are the pros and cons about cooler range sparks plug??
thx

St00ge · Jul 21st, 2006, 05:49 PM

not really an issue of pros and cons. You fit a colder heat range if you're combustion temperatures go up in order to dissipate some of the extra heat your making. In our case, that means a colder heat range is adviseable when you up the boost by adding a smaller SC pulley.

lemoncoke · Aug 24th, 2006, 10:45 AM

Dear all IK 22 user,

I would like to know is it necessary to regap the plug from 0.032 to 0.044? please advise.

Lemoncoke

COOPER S KID · Aug 25th, 2006, 12:51 AM

hi all !! just wondering those who are using NGK iridium's are they all the same as the jcw ones ???

herbie hind · Aug 25th, 2006, 12:57 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by lemoncoke (original)

Dear all IK 22 user,

I would like to know is it necessary to regap the plug from 0.032 to 0.044? please advise.

Lemoncoke

i believe the manual says the hiher value. i'll look tomorrow.

St00ge · Aug 25th, 2006, 01:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by COOPER S KID (original)

hi all !! just wondering those who are using NGK iridium's are they all the same as the jcw ones ???

The JCW plugs are NGK, but not iridium. They are the right heat range for a pulley'd car tho

herbie hind · Aug 25th, 2006, 02:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by herbie hind (original)

i believe the manual says the hiher value. i'll look tomorrow.

no ...looked in the manual and no gap to be found .but.. i'm sure i saw it somewhere ,check all over your car -under hood and door jams. it should be available.

herbie hind · Aug 25th, 2006, 02:07 AM

oh... put antisieze on the threads and torque to 20 ft. lbs.

Jenkins · May 23rd, 2007, 10:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by St00ge (original)

i have the denso ik22s. Its been about 4000km of hard and easy use, and they've been fine...

Sorry to reply on this rather old post. Just found it today, doing some searching on "iridium".

I.M.H.O., the IK22 is not the right Denso iridium plug. That should be the IK20.

Why did you choose the IK22?

Looking forward to your reply.

Best regards,
Jenkins

Jul 15th, 2006, 10:51 PM	#1
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 449 Offline	what plugs? okay who likes what plugs for the "s" ? ngk? denso? comments please it's almost that time .

Jul 16th, 2006, 07:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	i have the denso ik22s. Its been about 4000km of hard and easy use, and they've been fine... Black MCS

Jul 21st, 2006, 05:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
lemoncoke MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Local Time: 05:39 AM Posts: 29 Offline	Cooler range plugs What are the pros and cons about cooler range sparks plug?? thx Milltek Cat-back.. KW V2 ES 100

Jul 21st, 2006, 05:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	not really an issue of pros and cons. You fit a colder heat range if you're combustion temperatures go up in order to dissipate some of the extra heat your making. In our case, that means a colder heat range is adviseable when you up the boost by adding a smaller SC pulley. Black MCS

Aug 24th, 2006, 10:45 AM	#14 (permalink)
lemoncoke MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Local Time: 05:39 AM Posts: 29 Offline	Ik 22 Dear all IK 22 user, I would like to know is it necessary to regap the plug from 0.032 to 0.044? please advise. Lemoncoke Milltek Cat-back.. KW V2 ES 100

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Jul 16th, 2006, 03:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 9,315 Offline	I have the Denso Iridiums. They've done well.

Jul 16th, 2006, 03:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 449 Offline	cool thx

Jul 16th, 2006, 10:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
Baker Being normal is not fun! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, Australia Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 4,115 Offline	I had a set of Denso Iridium IK-22's, but when I recently had a problem where I blew a plug through the head I had to get some plugs ASAP, could not get stock of the IK-22 so now I'm running the NGK Iridium, the same as they run in the JCW conversions.

Jul 16th, 2006, 03:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 449 Offline	was it due to plug failure? hope all is well now .thx.

Jul 16th, 2006, 07:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Capsaisin cave capsicum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crewe Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 3,364 Offline	I don't want to get sued, so this is pure hearsay. I have heard that Denso Iridiums MAY cause problems with blown plugs, as per the post from Baker. So it my own personal opinion and with no proof that NGK are better than Denso, that I would personally prefer the NGK Iridium plugs. I would personally hate to run the risk of a blown plug, of any manufacture. Other peoples opinions may differ.

Jul 16th, 2006, 09:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 449 Offline	i'm getting that impresion from other threads too thx .

Jul 17th, 2006, 12:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
Baker Being normal is not fun! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, Australia Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 4,115 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Capsaisin I don't want to get sued, so this is pure hearsay. I have heard that Denso Iridiums MAY cause problems with blown plugs, as per the post from Baker. So it my own personal opinion and with no proof that NGK are better than Denso, that I would personally prefer the NGK Iridium plugs. I would personally hate to run the risk of a blown plug, of any manufacture. Other peoples opinions may differ. There are a couple of opinions on this, mostly coming from NAM. It was found that a certain batch of heads had a slight metalurgy problem, in which if they got too hot they basically allowed the plug to work loose, which then allows it to blow out the relatively weak thread. Originally this problem was being attributed to the Denso Iridium IK-22 plugs, but then it was found that similar things had also happened on other branded plugs (its just the majority of people were using IK-22's after getting a pulley installed by Randy Webb). It was even found, to a lesser degree, that people with stock cars were getting loose plugs due to the issue. Personally I'm attributing it to a head failure, not a plug failure. If you look at the damage I suffered as well, it also destroyed three quarters of a spark plug lead! On saying that; looking at the plugs externally the NGK looks nicer; having four points to create the spark from instead of just the one on the Denso. Will it help? Who knows; a dyno will not tell you, and you cannot trust the manufacturers to tell you. Down to personal preferance.

Jul 17th, 2006, 11:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 1,316 Offline	I have a MC Standard engine compartment wise (No ECU Re-maps yet) all I have it a Milltek exhaust. Would it be ok for me to put Iridium plugs in to my car? And if it is ok can you tell a difference when they are in (Performance etc)?

Jul 18th, 2006, 02:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Baker Being normal is not fun! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, Australia Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 4,115 Offline	If you've got no engine mods there is no real point to putting Iridium plugs in, other than you get a longer plug life. You'll not get any difference power wise at all.

Aug 25th, 2006, 12:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
COOPER S KID "Dare to be different" Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: australia Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 135 Offline	hi all !! just wondering those who are using NGK iridium's are they all the same as the jcw ones ???

Aug 25th, 2006, 12:57 AM	#16 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by lemoncoke (original) Dear all IK 22 user, I would like to know is it necessary to regap the plug from 0.032 to 0.044? please advise. Lemoncoke i believe the manual says the hiher value. i'll look tomorrow.

Aug 25th, 2006, 01:24 AM	#17 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by COOPER S KID (original) hi all !! just wondering those who are using NGK iridium's are they all the same as the jcw ones ??? The JCW plugs are NGK, but not iridium. They are the right heat range for a pulley'd car tho Black MCS

Aug 25th, 2006, 02:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by herbie hind (original) i believe the manual says the hiher value. i'll look tomorrow. no ...looked in the manual and no gap to be found .but.. i'm sure i saw it somewhere ,check all over your car -under hood and door jams. it should be available.

Aug 25th, 2006, 02:07 AM	#19 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 449 Offline	oh... put antisieze on the threads and torque to 20 ft. lbs.

May 23rd, 2007, 10:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
Jenkins MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sittard Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 43 Offline	IK20 instead of IK22 Quote: Originally Posted by St00ge (original) i have the denso ik22s. Its been about 4000km of hard and easy use, and they've been fine... Sorry to reply on this rather old post. Just found it today, doing some searching on "iridium". I.M.H.O., the IK22 is not the right Denso iridium plug. That should be the IK20. Why did you choose the IK22? Looking forward to your reply. Best regards, Jenkins

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