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MiniBimmer · Jul 21st, 2006, 03:02 PM

Hello
I´m owner of a MCS JCW 2005 210Hp Kit.

My car until 180Km\h (112miles\h) is very fast; until 220Km\h (136miles\h) is more or less already cost more a little and until reaching 240Km\h (150miles\h) maximum speed costs sufficiently.

Your cars behavior the same or mine can have some problem?

Best Regards

Tonyt3 · Jul 21st, 2006, 03:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer

Hello
I´m owner of a MCS JCW 2005 210Hp Kit.

My car until 180Km\h (112miles\h) is very fast; until 220Km\h (136miles\h) is more or less already cost more a little and until reaching 240Km\h (150miles\h) maximum speed costs sufficiently.

Your cars behavior the same or mine can have some problem?

Best Regards

Sorry, dont understand what you are trying to say....

MiniBimmer · Jul 21st, 2006, 03:34 PM

Hello
Forgive my poor English.

My problem is if for an car with 210hp it is normal to have some difficulty in arriving at 240Km\h (150miles\h)?
The car in low rpm is very good/quick, in high rpm is slower mainly from 200Km\h (125miles\h)…

It is this normal?

Best Regards

TallAndy · Jul 21st, 2006, 03:58 PM

A JCW 210 will struggle to get to 150mph

To get to 140 will take a while and any extra mph after that is a bonus

Richard Crofts · Jul 21st, 2006, 04:07 PM

Top speed of the JCW is only 135-40 isn't it? I think the GP is only 145 or something like that...so 150mph is out of the question on a flat road. I think 150 is pretty hard to find due to the MINI not being very aerodynamic (good through the air)

MarkW19 · Jul 21st, 2006, 04:33 PM

143 is the quoted top speed.

minicore · Jul 21st, 2006, 05:35 PM

I've found mine to be effortless - and quick! - all the way to 130, with no significant slowing past the 110 mark... maybe you're expecting too much?

I imagine it would have happily carried on past 130, but my private runway ran out.

Tonyt3 · Jul 21st, 2006, 07:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer

Hello
Forgive my poor English.

My problem is if for an car with 210hp it is normal to have some difficulty in arriving at 240Km\h (150miles\h)?
The car in low rpm is very good/quick, in high rpm is slower mainly from 200Km\h (125miles\h)…

It is this normal?

Best Regards

OK, I understand better now thanks.

All cars struggle to achieve their top speed, and the last 10% is very difficult. Conditions have to be perfect to get to top speed, and in summer, the Works will not do top speed (145mph) due to the heat.

You need a long straight road, 135mph should be done in under 1 mile, 145mph will need another mile at least, and it will crawl to that limit.

You should wait for a cold early morning, your car should have no extra weight, your tyres should be at exact pressure, and hopefully, if you have enough road, you can get to 145mph. Any wind will cause problems....

Dont expect too much. The last 10mph is a very dangerous place to be.

R1 · Jul 21st, 2006, 07:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer

Hello
Forgive my poor English.

My problem is if for an car with 210hp it is normal to have some difficulty in arriving at 240Km\h (150miles\h)?
The car in low rpm is very good/quick, in high rpm is slower mainly from 200Km\h (125miles\h)…

It is this normal?

Best Regards

I'll let you know next week!

TallAndy · Jul 21st, 2006, 09:25 PM

I've had 147mph on the GPS 150mph on the clock.

That was on a very cool evening in spring JCW 210 + GTT Manifold + GRS Intercooler

But it did take a longtime to get there

herbie hind · Jul 21st, 2006, 09:33 PM

whenever you have an anolog gauge as in the dial off the cam or whatever you'll get to a point where accuracy drops off due to spring tensions etc. a rule of thumb is after 100 mph start degrading the indicated speed . evidence is that magazines and manufacturer have given standard cooper s a top speed of 137 mph i bet if you wrung it out youd see 148 or so indicated ,which would be wrong of course .

MiniBimmer · Jul 24th, 2006, 08:58 AM

Hello
Thanks to all for reply.

Then I do not have no problem with the car

Already I gave in highway 150mph of speedometer. As I related in previous post the car it very delays to arrive at these speeds, he is fast until 125mph.

Best Regards

JWF · Sep 19th, 2006, 09:44 PM

when it comes to areodynaics our cars are a tad brick like

Bhozar · Sep 19th, 2006, 09:54 PM

I've been told that its not a good idea to run any of the 1.6 MINI's at high revs in 5th/6th for a sustained time as they are prone to having the engine blow. Saying that, did 130mph on a runway according to GPS without too much effort. I figure if you want a high top speed you dont buy a 1.6 car.

Il Generale · Sep 19th, 2006, 10:03 PM

In the video I was in 6th gear.. and my engine can reach about 7700 rpm(8000 at the instrument) .... and I'have run the car for about 15/20 seconds...you can see and measure the seconds that occour to pass from 230 to 240 km/h.. about 4/5 seconds...
the digital instruments of the mini measures about 244 km/h..

MiniBimmer · Sep 20th, 2006, 10:50 AM

Hello
Unhappyly I can´t see the video

Somebody has Dyno Tests of Mini Cooper S and Cooper S Works? If yes can you post here the results...

Best Regards

herbie hind · Sep 21st, 2006, 02:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer (original)

Hello
Thanks to all for reply.

Then I do not have no problem with the car

Already I gave in highway 150mph of speedometer. As I related in previous post the car it very delays to arrive at these speeds, he is fast until 125mph.

Best Regards

rent the movie (worlds fastest indian ) he gets to about 165 mph relatively quickly then it takes roughly another 6 miles for the bike to get to 200 +. it's just raw power ..... and accelaration then the walllll ... then slowly more and more till finaly none left .

Ven0m · Sep 21st, 2006, 07:47 PM

Heh....counting down for this thread to be locked

s_and_m · Sep 25th, 2006, 05:39 PM

I know that we all know this but.....................

Anyone attemtping to vmax their car should only do so in a safe, controlled environment, where the law allows. Even then, maximum speed should be viewed as equalling minimum safety margin.

I think top speed is pretty irrelevant in most scenarios (yeah sure it's nice to know that you own a 150mph motor or whatever, but when are you actually going to exploit it? - unless you live in Germany and like to get up very early to avoid the traffic.)

What I love about the MCS is the way it puts frowns on the faces of other track day drivers as it hangs on round the corners and accelerates cleanly up through the rev range.

Cheers

S

R1 · Sep 26th, 2006, 03:34 PM

138 so far. Controlled conditions!

Jul 21st, 2006, 03:02 PM	#1
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Top Speed (Problem or it is Normal) Hello I´m owner of a MCS JCW 2005 210Hp Kit. My car until 180Km\h (112miles\h) is very fast; until 220Km\h (136miles\h) is more or less already cost more a little and until reaching 240Km\h (150miles\h) maximum speed costs sufficiently. Your cars behavior the same or mine can have some problem? Best Regards

Jul 21st, 2006, 05:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
minicore Eat my dust. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lancashire Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 2,186 Offline	I've found mine to be effortless - and quick! - all the way to 130, with no significant slowing past the 110 mark... maybe you're expecting too much? I imagine it would have happily carried on past 130, but my private runway ran out. Now driving a 2006 Brabus Roadster Coupe PW/B Cooper S Works has gone to its new home!

Sep 25th, 2006, 05:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
s_and_m 220 of your finest horses Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 6800 rpm Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 3,065 Offline	Before it is I know that we all know this but..................... Anyone attemtping to vmax their car should only do so in a safe, controlled environment, where the law allows. Even then, maximum speed should be viewed as equalling minimum safety margin. I think top speed is pretty irrelevant in most scenarios (yeah sure it's nice to know that you own a 150mph motor or whatever, but when are you actually going to exploit it? - unless you live in Germany and like to get up very early to avoid the traffic.) What I love about the MCS is the way it puts frowns on the faces of other track day drivers as it hangs on round the corners and accelerates cleanly up through the rev range. Cheers S

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Jul 21st, 2006, 03:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 6,257 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer Hello I´m owner of a MCS JCW 2005 210Hp Kit. My car until 180Km\h (112miles\h) is very fast; until 220Km\h (136miles\h) is more or less already cost more a little and until reaching 240Km\h (150miles\h) maximum speed costs sufficiently. Your cars behavior the same or mine can have some problem? Best Regards Sorry, dont understand what you are trying to say....

Jul 21st, 2006, 03:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Forgive my poor English. My problem is if for an car with 210hp it is normal to have some difficulty in arriving at 240Km\h (150miles\h)? The car in low rpm is very good/quick, in high rpm is slower mainly from 200Km\h (125miles\h)… It is this normal? Best Regards

Jul 21st, 2006, 03:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 1,195 Offline	A JCW 210 will struggle to get to 150mph To get to 140 will take a while and any extra mph after that is a bonus

Jul 21st, 2006, 04:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 3,001 Offline	Top speed of the JCW is only 135-40 isn't it? I think the GP is only 145 or something like that...so 150mph is out of the question on a flat road. I think 150 is pretty hard to find due to the MINI not being very aerodynamic (good through the air)

Jul 21st, 2006, 04:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 3,831 Offline	143 is the quoted top speed.

Jul 21st, 2006, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 6,257 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer Hello Forgive my poor English. My problem is if for an car with 210hp it is normal to have some difficulty in arriving at 240Km\h (150miles\h)? The car in low rpm is very good/quick, in high rpm is slower mainly from 200Km\h (125miles\h)… It is this normal? Best Regards OK, I understand better now thanks. All cars struggle to achieve their top speed, and the last 10% is very difficult. Conditions have to be perfect to get to top speed, and in summer, the Works will not do top speed (145mph) due to the heat. You need a long straight road, 135mph should be done in under 1 mile, 145mph will need another mile at least, and it will crawl to that limit. You should wait for a cold early morning, your car should have no extra weight, your tyres should be at exact pressure, and hopefully, if you have enough road, you can get to 145mph. Any wind will cause problems.... Dont expect too much. The last 10mph is a very dangerous place to be.

Jul 21st, 2006, 07:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 4,915 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer Hello Forgive my poor English. My problem is if for an car with 210hp it is normal to have some difficulty in arriving at 240Km\h (150miles\h)? The car in low rpm is very good/quick, in high rpm is slower mainly from 200Km\h (125miles\h)… It is this normal? Best Regards I'll let you know next week!

Jul 21st, 2006, 09:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 1,195 Offline	I've had 147mph on the GPS 150mph on the clock. That was on a very cool evening in spring JCW 210 + GTT Manifold + GRS Intercooler But it did take a longtime to get there

Jul 21st, 2006, 09:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 06:50 PM Posts: 451 Offline	whenever you have an anolog gauge as in the dial off the cam or whatever you'll get to a point where accuracy drops off due to spring tensions etc. a rule of thumb is after 100 mph start degrading the indicated speed . evidence is that magazines and manufacturer have given standard cooper s a top speed of 137 mph i bet if you wrung it out youd see 148 or so indicated ,which would be wrong of course .

Jul 24th, 2006, 08:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Thanks to all for reply. Then I do not have no problem with the car Already I gave in highway 150mph of speedometer. As I related in previous post the car it very delays to arrive at these speeds, he is fast until 125mph. Best Regards

Sep 19th, 2006, 09:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
JWF MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 1,773 Offline	when it comes to areodynaics our cars are a tad brick like

Sep 19th, 2006, 09:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 1,174 Offline	I've been told that its not a good idea to run any of the 1.6 MINI's at high revs in 5th/6th for a sustained time as they are prone to having the engine blow. Saying that, did 130mph on a runway according to GPS without too much effort. I figure if you want a high top speed you dont buy a 1.6 car.

Sep 19th, 2006, 10:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Il Generale MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Local Time: 10:50 PM Posts: 7 Offline	In the video I was in 6th gear.. and my engine can reach about 7700 rpm(8000 at the instrument) .... and I'have run the car for about 15/20 seconds...you can see and measure the seconds that occour to pass from 230 to 240 km/h.. about 4/5 seconds... the digital instruments of the mini measures about 244 km/h..

Sep 20th, 2006, 10:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
MiniBimmer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Hello Unhappyly I can´t see the video Somebody has Dyno Tests of Mini Cooper S and Cooper S Works? If yes can you post here the results... Best Regards

Sep 21st, 2006, 02:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 06:50 PM Posts: 451 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniBimmer (original) Hello Thanks to all for reply. Then I do not have no problem with the car Already I gave in highway 150mph of speedometer. As I related in previous post the car it very delays to arrive at these speeds, he is fast until 125mph. Best Regards rent the movie (worlds fastest indian ) he gets to about 165 mph relatively quickly then it takes roughly another 6 miles for the bike to get to 200 +. it's just raw power ..... and accelaration then the walllll ... then slowly more and more till finaly none left .

Sep 21st, 2006, 07:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ven0m MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bracknell Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 128 Offline	Heh....counting down for this thread to be locked

Sep 26th, 2006, 03:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 4,915 Offline	138 so far. Controlled conditions!

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