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aries9 · Jul 26th, 2006, 07:55 AM

For the last 4000km my mini works with a 15% pulley, new plugs and a K N filter panel
the car goes realy good and you get to rev limiter quicker than before but even the car pulls from lower revs there is lack of torque between 800 and 1800 revs or so .
I think thats the case with most stock MCS too but i think after the upgrade its doing it more or its more obvious.
Is that normal? have i to do something? has anyone noticed that?

herbie hind · Jul 26th, 2006, 09:56 PM

do the exhaust header on back . i've still got some low lag but the ecu flash should do it i hope .

Eds · Jul 27th, 2006, 04:55 AM

Mine with 15% pulley, CAI, & Shark still lacks the low end torque in that rpm range that you mentioned but was a big difference from stock. The ECU remap will only do slight improvement on the low end or throtle response, the pulley will give you the best "feel" among the mods. I agree that the header and exhaust will add more and I can't wait to have mine in the future too if it will indeed improve the 800-2000 rpm pull.

Eds

aries9 · Jul 27th, 2006, 01:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Eds

Mine with 15% pulley, CAI, & Shark still lacks the low end torque in that rpm range that you mentioned but was a big difference from stock. The ECU remap will only do slight improvement on the low end or throtle response, the pulley will give you the best "feel" among the mods. I agree that the header and exhaust will add more and I can't wait to have mine in the future too if it will indeed improve the 800-2000 rpm pull.

Eds

Yeah because i was thinking that a remap would fix that...

george p · Jul 27th, 2006, 01:20 PM

the remap only slightly improves that.you will spend alot of money just to get that little extra torgue. is it worth it..

gowest · Jul 27th, 2006, 08:01 PM

It's a 4 cylinder, 1600 cc motor!!! I don't think anything will give you any real power below 1800 rpm. The best bet would be a 19% SC pulley, second best, a set off small diameter light weight wheels and tires will make it feel like it has more power. Learn to use your rpm range and keep the rev's up.

BE4TNUT · Jul 27th, 2006, 08:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by gowest

It's a 4 cylinder, 1600 cc motor!!! I don't think anything will give you any real power below 1800 rpm. The best bet would be a 19% SC pulley, second best, a set off small diameter light weight wheels and tires will make it feel like it has more power. Learn to use your rpm range and keep the rev's up.

I may be wrong but I dont think that a smaller SC pulley will do anything for your torque in that range since the SC has to spin up... It would be different if the SC always spun at the same rate but it goes faster as the engine starts climbing in revs. I think header back, no cat and keeping the RPMs up is the best bet, smaller/lighter wheels will also give you the feel or more torque also.

BEATNUT

herbie hind · Jul 29th, 2006, 04:30 PM

the wheel thing is true . i went to 16's with normal tires (though still 205" ) and the car wants to rip them off .(cai, ignition wires coil plugs header back from alta ) . my biggest let down is roll -ons from the line it's fine once warm but top gear roll-ons bite it .

herbie hind · Jul 29th, 2006, 04:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by george p

the remap only slightly improves that.you will spend alot of money just to get that little extra torgue. is it worth it..

i want the re-map to protect the car. i've done the exhaust and cai and going to do 15% pulley soon as it gets here so colder plug (yes) but i want the remap to ensure i'm not too lean . it's only 400.00 bucks to insure no valve melts.

Jul 26th, 2006, 07:55 AM	#1
aries9 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Local Time: 02:01 PM Posts: 14 Offline	15% pulley-low end torque For the last 4000km my mini works with a 15% pulley, new plugs and a K N filter panel the car goes realy good and you get to rev limiter quicker than before but even the car pulls from lower revs there is lack of torque between 800 and 1800 revs or so . I think thats the case with most stock MCS too but i think after the upgrade its doing it more or its more obvious. Is that normal? have i to do something? has anyone noticed that?

Jul 27th, 2006, 01:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
george p MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 11:01 AM Posts: 53 Offline	the remap only slightly improves that.you will spend alot of money just to get that little extra torgue. is it worth it.. GEORGE

Jul 27th, 2006, 08:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
gowest MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Va. Local Time: 07:01 AM Posts: 208 Offline	It's a 4 cylinder, 1600 cc motor!!! I don't think anything will give you any real power below 1800 rpm. The best bet would be a 19% SC pulley, second best, a set off small diameter light weight wheels and tires will make it feel like it has more power. Learn to use your rpm range and keep the rev's up. 2001 & 2002 SCCA, STS Pro Solo National Champion. 2003 SCCA, Solo2 Nationals 8th, co-driver (Courtney) 2nd in 03 & 04 2003 JCW 210, London Stainless Headers, custom cat back with 5" SuperTrapp, 15x7.5 SSR's and 16x8 ce28n's, Quaife, KW Comp 2 Ways

Jul 29th, 2006, 04:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 07:01 AM Posts: 449 Offline	ping Quote: Originally Posted by george p the remap only slightly improves that.you will spend alot of money just to get that little extra torgue. is it worth it.. i want the re-map to protect the car. i've done the exhaust and cai and going to do 15% pulley soon as it gets here so colder plug (yes) but i want the remap to ensure i'm not too lean . it's only 400.00 bucks to insure no valve melts.

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Jul 26th, 2006, 09:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 07:01 AM Posts: 449 Offline	do the exhaust header on back . i've still got some low lag but the ecu flash should do it i hope .

Jul 27th, 2006, 04:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Eds MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Local Time: 05:01 AM Posts: 44 Offline	Mine with 15% pulley, CAI, & Shark still lacks the low end torque in that rpm range that you mentioned but was a big difference from stock. The ECU remap will only do slight improvement on the low end or throtle response, the pulley will give you the best "feel" among the mods. I agree that the header and exhaust will add more and I can't wait to have mine in the future too if it will indeed improve the 800-2000 rpm pull. Eds

Jul 27th, 2006, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
aries9 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Local Time: 02:01 PM Posts: 14 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Eds Mine with 15% pulley, CAI, & Shark still lacks the low end torque in that rpm range that you mentioned but was a big difference from stock. The ECU remap will only do slight improvement on the low end or throtle response, the pulley will give you the best "feel" among the mods. I agree that the header and exhaust will add more and I can't wait to have mine in the future too if it will indeed improve the 800-2000 rpm pull. Eds Yeah because i was thinking that a remap would fix that...

Jul 27th, 2006, 08:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
BE4TNUT MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Framingham, MA Local Time: 07:01 AM Posts: 29 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by gowest It's a 4 cylinder, 1600 cc motor!!! I don't think anything will give you any real power below 1800 rpm. The best bet would be a 19% SC pulley, second best, a set off small diameter light weight wheels and tires will make it feel like it has more power. Learn to use your rpm range and keep the rev's up. I may be wrong but I dont think that a smaller SC pulley will do anything for your torque in that range since the SC has to spin up... It would be different if the SC always spun at the same rate but it goes faster as the engine starts climbing in revs. I think header back, no cat and keeping the RPMs up is the best bet, smaller/lighter wheels will also give you the feel or more torque also. BEATNUT

Jul 29th, 2006, 04:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
herbie hind MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: providence subburbs Local Time: 07:01 AM Posts: 449 Offline	the wheel thing is true . i went to 16's with normal tires (though still 205" ) and the car wants to rip them off .(cai, ignition wires coil plugs header back from alta ) . my biggest let down is roll -ons from the line it's fine once warm but top gear roll-ons bite it .

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