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MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 04:56 PM

I'm addicted to the supercharger whine on my S (Works), really love it!

Wouldn't mind making it a bit louder and more pronounced though (just while accelerating and at 4000+revs, not while cruising). Is there a SIMPLE and cheap way to do this, without buying an Alta air intake or anything?

I want to keep it all JCW

GR33NIE · Jul 31st, 2006, 04:59 PM

Wind Down your windows?

MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 05:02 PM

I'm looking for an "all-season" solution

Neil the Hat · Jul 31st, 2006, 05:07 PM

Rev it hard all the time!!

T-bone S · Jul 31st, 2006, 05:36 PM

Get the GTT/JCW Hybrid Air Box conversion

clicky

totally hidden - and more sound.

MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 06:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S

Get the GTT/JCW Hybrid Air Box conversion

clicky

totally hidden - and more sound.

Cheers - so this fits into the new JCW 210 airbox (with the 4500rpm flap on it)?

Have you heard one?

Adam81 · Jul 31st, 2006, 06:54 PM

Im also interested too know if anyone has heard one of these if there good i want one too

Adam

NickG · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:06 PM

I've had one fitted today, sounds great!

However I went from a standard S with JCW box to a GTT220 with the airbox upgrade. So I was always going to get more whine from the pulley. Sounds awesome though.

Will do a proper write up once the new GTT discs/pads have bedded in and I've had a chance to drive it properly.

MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:08 PM

Sounds good Nick...but as you say it would always have been noiser/better as you've had the full job lot done!

Interested to hear from someone who's got the JCW210 box with the GTT filter?

NickG · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:15 PM

A bit more info here:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...?highlight=gtt

Roland has changed the fitting slightly so that there are now three discreet black rivets visible on the outside of the box, looks very professional.

MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:16 PM

Just emailed Roland, and also TonyT3 (who has/had one).

Is this something Lohen could fit?! Think I'll also remove that endcap on the JCW box that that thread mentions. Don't want to compromise my warranty or TLC though!

DJASHMIX · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:18 PM

Mark

Through trial and error, plus $. I've tested several products, your JCW airbox is quite good, and it tends to keep the noice down while you Rev up your engine. Here is what it comes down to.
The JCW box is made to keep things quiet but deliver good performance and it keeps HOT Air and dust from the engine bay from getting on your filter.

Try this firt, remove your air filter from inside the box. See if you get a louder whine. The filter used for the JCW Airbox is factory, you can replace it with a thiner but more filter and performace.
Other wise to hear the louder whine you will have to change to a K&N Typhone system or an Alta.
Another solution is Headers, where you will only hear the whine as you hit high RPM's. But the down side is that you will hear the Exhaust a bit louder.

Nick, makes a good point on that thread, check it out.

Hope this Help...

ENJOY..........!!!!!!!!!

MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

The filter used for the JCW Airbox is factory, you can replace it with a thiner but more filter and performace.

ie. the GTT blue hybrid filter?

DJASHMIX · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:33 PM

Yup...But test first what I wrote. There is no HARM..Just remove the filter and see if your WHINE is higher....

T-bone S · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:35 PM

Yup-a-mondo -

as you have said Mark it is the End cap that keep the noise inside the box. - The Hybrid loses this according to the info from GTT. This will allow more supercharger noise out into the open that would otherwise have been muffled. The higher flow rate of the new filter could get you a few extra ponies and smoother throttle

MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:36 PM

Cool...so basically if I don't get a louder whine with no filter in, then putting the GTT in won't do anything?

Am I ok to run up to redline with the engine warm, for like 10 mins, without an airfilter in place?!

MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 07:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S

Yup-a-mondo -

as you have said Mark it is the End cap that keep the noise inside the box. - The Hybrid loses this according to the info from GTT. This will allow more supercharger noise out into the open that would otherwise have been muffled. The higher flow rate of the new filter could get you a few extra ponies and smoother throttle

I'll just try removing the endcap first then and seeing how I get on with that! How do you remove it?!

And I take it this endcap is different to the flap that opens at 4500rpm?

MINIAC · Jul 31st, 2006, 08:25 PM

Running the engine with the filter removed from the JCW airbox or the end-cap removed from the filter runs the risk of sucking dirt particles into you engine ... not a very wise idea

MarkW19 · Jul 31st, 2006, 08:30 PM

I think I'm just gonna bite the bullet and order the GTT filter, keeping the endcap on...after talking to a couple of people they think I'll get a good increase in whine

MINIAC · Jul 31st, 2006, 08:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19

... after talking to a couple of people they think I'll get a good increase in whine

I doubt you'll get much more whine. The increase in whine comes when the flap opens.

The intakes which produce the loudest whine are those which "remove" the partition between the engine bay and cowel area ... like the Alta and RDR.

Jul 31st, 2006, 04:56 PM	#1
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Supercharger whine! I'm addicted to the supercharger whine on my S (Works), really love it! Wouldn't mind making it a bit louder and more pronounced though (just while accelerating and at 4000+revs, not while cruising). Is there a SIMPLE and cheap way to do this, without buying an Alta air intake or anything? I want to keep it all JCW

Jul 31st, 2006, 04:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
GR33NIE Polo GT Owner! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 09:40 PM Posts: 3,860 Offline	Wind Down your windows? ::MINI Sold! Polo GT Owner::

Jul 31st, 2006, 05:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Neil the Hat MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Coast Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 556 Offline	Rev it hard all the time!! For MINIs on the South Coast it has to be the South Coast New MINI Club

Jul 31st, 2006, 05:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 09:40 PM Posts: 524 Offline	Get the GTT/JCW Hybrid Air Box conversion clicky totally hidden - and more sound. MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Jul 31st, 2006, 06:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Adam81 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North East Local Time: 09:40 PM Posts: 119 Offline	Interesting Im also interested too know if anyone has heard one of these if there good i want one too Adam

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Jul 31st, 2006, 05:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	I'm looking for an "all-season" solution

Jul 31st, 2006, 06:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S Get the GTT/JCW Hybrid Air Box conversion clicky totally hidden - and more sound. Cheers - so this fits into the new JCW 210 airbox (with the 4500rpm flap on it)? Have you heard one?

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
NickG MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW England Local Time: 09:40 PM Posts: 304 Offline	I've had one fitted today, sounds great! However I went from a standard S with JCW box to a GTT220 with the airbox upgrade. So I was always going to get more whine from the pulley. Sounds awesome though. Will do a proper write up once the new GTT discs/pads have bedded in and I've had a chance to drive it properly.

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Sounds good Nick...but as you say it would always have been noiser/better as you've had the full job lot done! Interested to hear from someone who's got the JCW210 box with the GTT filter?

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
NickG MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW England Local Time: 09:40 PM Posts: 304 Offline	A bit more info here: http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...?highlight=gtt Roland has changed the fitting slightly so that there are now three discreet black rivets visible on the outside of the box, looks very professional.

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Just emailed Roland, and also TonyT3 (who has/had one). Is this something Lohen could fit?! Think I'll also remove that endcap on the JCW box that that thread mentions. Don't want to compromise my warranty or TLC though!

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
DJASHMIX JUST STEP ON IT...!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MIAMI Local Time: 05:40 PM Posts: 43 Offline	Mark Through trial and error, plus $. I've tested several products, your JCW airbox is quite good, and it tends to keep the noice down while you Rev up your engine. Here is what it comes down to. The JCW box is made to keep things quiet but deliver good performance and it keeps HOT Air and dust from the engine bay from getting on your filter. Try this firt, remove your air filter from inside the box. See if you get a louder whine. The filter used for the JCW Airbox is factory, you can replace it with a thiner but more filter and performace. Other wise to hear the louder whine you will have to change to a K&N Typhone system or an Alta. Another solution is Headers, where you will only hear the whine as you hit high RPM's. But the down side is that you will hear the Exhaust a bit louder. Nick, makes a good point on that thread, check it out. Hope this Help... ENJOY..........!!!!!!!!! ..Step On It...!!!!!..

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Quote: The filter used for the JCW Airbox is factory, you can replace it with a thiner but more filter and performace. ie. the GTT blue hybrid filter?

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
DJASHMIX JUST STEP ON IT...!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MIAMI Local Time: 05:40 PM Posts: 43 Offline	Yup...But test first what I wrote. There is no HARM..Just remove the filter and see if your WHINE is higher.... ..Step On It...!!!!!..

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 09:40 PM Posts: 524 Offline	Yup-a-mondo - as you have said Mark it is the End cap that keep the noise inside the box. - The Hybrid loses this according to the info from GTT. This will allow more supercharger noise out into the open that would otherwise have been muffled. The higher flow rate of the new filter could get you a few extra ponies and smoother throttle MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Cool...so basically if I don't get a louder whine with no filter in, then putting the GTT in won't do anything? Am I ok to run up to redline with the engine warm, for like 10 mins, without an airfilter in place?!

Jul 31st, 2006, 07:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S Yup-a-mondo - as you have said Mark it is the End cap that keep the noise inside the box. - The Hybrid loses this according to the info from GTT. This will allow more supercharger noise out into the open that would otherwise have been muffled. The higher flow rate of the new filter could get you a few extra ponies and smoother throttle I'll just try removing the endcap first then and seeing how I get on with that! How do you remove it?! And I take it this endcap is different to the flap that opens at 4500rpm?

Jul 31st, 2006, 08:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:40 PM Posts: 8,618 Online	Running the engine with the filter removed from the JCW airbox or the end-cap removed from the filter runs the risk of sucking dirt particles into you engine ... not a very wise idea

Jul 31st, 2006, 08:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	I think I'm just gonna bite the bullet and order the GTT filter, keeping the endcap on...after talking to a couple of people they think I'll get a good increase in whine

Jul 31st, 2006, 08:59 PM	#20 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:40 PM Posts: 8,618 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19 ... after talking to a couple of people they think I'll get a good increase in whine I doubt you'll get much more whine. The increase in whine comes when the flap opens. The intakes which produce the loudest whine are those which "remove" the partition between the engine bay and cowel area ... like the Alta and RDR.

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