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TallAndy · Aug 10th, 2006, 12:40 PM

Based on the JCW Airfilter this version is stripped down for race use. The internal flap, mechanical parts and electronics have been removed so the extra intake is open permanetly for maximum performance. As used in the UK and overseas MINI Challenge.

Call +44(0)1903 774498 or e-mail workshouse@johncooper.co.uk for shipping charges
£127.62 ex.VAT
£149.95 inc.VAT

Taken from www.johncooper.co.uk

Root Ginger · Aug 10th, 2006, 02:10 PM

I see they offer a new motorsport filter for the Cooper too. This has a narrower cone presumably to stop the rubbing issues that the old Pipercross one had.

:: Jon :: · Aug 10th, 2006, 02:31 PM

nice find andy... havent you already got one? and an alta

TallAndy · Aug 10th, 2006, 05:53 PM

Yeh i've got an Alta on now much louder

My JCW one is in a box somewhere

rwkeating · Aug 11th, 2006, 02:44 AM

Any idea where I could purchase that in the U.S.?

CarterMD · Aug 11th, 2006, 07:28 AM

I don't think you'll get that in the USA cause there is no JCW dealer located.

You will have to order directly from JCW in England

TallAndy · Aug 11th, 2006, 09:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rwkeating (original)

Any idea where I could purchase that in the U.S.?

http://www.johncooper.co.uk/JohnCoop...e+Tuning+Kits/

Look on there mate.

wilo · Aug 14th, 2006, 09:36 PM

would this be ok to fit to a road car or would i be best going for the standard JCW one?

sorry not really up on these things

:: Jon :: · Aug 14th, 2006, 09:48 PM

would say any

TallAndy · Aug 15th, 2006, 11:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wilo (original)

would this be ok to fit to a road car or would i be best going for the standard JCW one?

sorry not really up on these things

If you want noise get an Alta Intake sounds awesome really improves the supercharger whine

T-bone S · Aug 15th, 2006, 11:49 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TallAndy (original)

If you want noise get an Alta Intake sounds awesome really improves the supercharger whine

Totally agree - put one on my car on the weekend - and it is brilliant in terms of noise. totally addictive if you like that kind of thing.
Lots of other noises too - makes the cooper s sounds like a real FI car

Root Ginger · Aug 15th, 2006, 01:15 PM

The GTT item is better and cheaper than the Alta item

wo53 rks · Aug 15th, 2006, 01:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger (original)

The GTT item is better and cheaper than the Alta item

How? And Why? May i ask

Root Ginger · Aug 15th, 2006, 02:01 PM

Flows better than the Alta item in tests, higher flow = more air in = better performance.

This is achieved because of the Ram Pipe that GTT use.

The price can be seen for yourself

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TallAndy · Aug 15th, 2006, 04:55 PM

Was there ever an Alta vs GTT intake comparison done? I remember seeing it vs the stock and JCW intake but not the Alta.

Either way I doubt the increase is noticeable from a drivers perspective maybe on paper. My mrs has a stock 06 MCS and added the Alta and it certainly picks up better now and sounds the dogs danglies

Root Ginger · Aug 15th, 2006, 06:32 PM

True, if you have the Alta probably not worth changing it, but if you are in the market for one why spend more on a product that is slightly worse

TBH there have never been figures published but Roland has said that the GTT is slightly better than the ALTA for flow. Make of that what you will.

venox22 · Aug 23rd, 2006, 10:59 AM

wonder if the JCW race filter still has the nasty paper element???

T-bone S · Aug 23rd, 2006, 11:06 AM

I spoke to the JC team last week about this filter - has the same element as the normal JCW unit. - Just without the flap and electronic gubbins.

I'll be ordering one next week but also getting the GTT Element soon after.

venox22 · Aug 23rd, 2006, 11:48 AM

yeah i have the GTT element just not got round to fitting it in my JCW box

s_and_m · Aug 24th, 2006, 05:24 PM

Simple take a stock airbox and cut a hole in the back? If the "Race" version is the JCW210 box with out the electronically actuated flap, can you not simply make a hole and have done?
Or does the JCW airbox have other tricks up it's sleeves?

S

Aug 10th, 2006, 12:40 PM	#1
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 1,178 Offline	New JCW Race Filter Based on the JCW Airfilter this version is stripped down for race use. The internal flap, mechanical parts and electronics have been removed so the extra intake is open permanetly for maximum performance. As used in the UK and overseas MINI Challenge. Call +44(0)1903 774498 or e-mail workshouse@johncooper.co.uk for shipping charges £127.62 ex.VAT £149.95 inc.VAT Taken from www.johncooper.co.uk

Aug 10th, 2006, 02:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	I see they offer a new motorsport filter for the Cooper too. This has a narrower cone presumably to stop the rubbing issues that the old Pipercross one had. It was acceptable in the 80's

Aug 10th, 2006, 02:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
:: Jon :: . My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 15,109 Offline	nice find andy... havent you already got one? and an alta EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Aug 14th, 2006, 09:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
:: Jon :: . My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 15,109 Offline	would say any EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Aug 15th, 2006, 11:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 571 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TallAndy (original) If you want noise get an Alta Intake sounds awesome really improves the supercharger whine Totally agree - put one on my car on the weekend - and it is brilliant in terms of noise. totally addictive if you like that kind of thing. Lots of other noises too - makes the cooper s sounds like a real FI car MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

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Aug 10th, 2006, 05:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 1,178 Offline	Yeh i've got an Alta on now much louder My JCW one is in a box somewhere

Aug 11th, 2006, 02:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
rwkeating MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Local Time: 05:40 PM Posts: 41 Offline	Any idea where I could purchase that in the U.S.?

Aug 11th, 2006, 07:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
CarterMD MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ulm, Germany Local Time: 12:40 AM Posts: 23 Offline	I don't think you'll get that in the USA cause there is no JCW dealer located. You will have to order directly from JCW in England

Aug 11th, 2006, 09:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 1,178 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rwkeating (original) Any idea where I could purchase that in the U.S.? http://www.johncooper.co.uk/JohnCoop...e+Tuning+Kits/ Look on there mate.

Aug 14th, 2006, 09:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
wilo MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 155 Offline	would this be ok to fit to a road car or would i be best going for the standard JCW one? sorry not really up on these things

Aug 15th, 2006, 11:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 1,178 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by wilo (original) would this be ok to fit to a road car or would i be best going for the standard JCW one? sorry not really up on these things If you want noise get an Alta Intake sounds awesome really improves the supercharger whine

Aug 15th, 2006, 01:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	The GTT item is better and cheaper than the Alta item It was acceptable in the 80's

Aug 15th, 2006, 01:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
wo53 rks MINIMAD My Classifieds Join Date: May 2006 Location: south wales Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 253 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger (original) The GTT item is better and cheaper than the Alta item How? And Why? May i ask Taking care of business

Aug 15th, 2006, 02:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Flows better than the Alta item in tests, higher flow = more air in = better performance. This is achieved because of the Ram Pipe that GTT use. The price can be seen for yourself <click It was acceptable in the 80's

Aug 15th, 2006, 04:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
TallAndy Taller Than You! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bolton Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 1,178 Offline	Was there ever an Alta vs GTT intake comparison done? I remember seeing it vs the stock and JCW intake but not the Alta. Either way I doubt the increase is noticeable from a drivers perspective maybe on paper. My mrs has a stock 06 MCS and added the Alta and it certainly picks up better now and sounds the dogs danglies

Aug 15th, 2006, 06:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	True, if you have the Alta probably not worth changing it, but if you are in the market for one why spend more on a product that is slightly worse TBH there have never been figures published but Roland has said that the GTT is slightly better than the ALTA for flow. Make of that what you will. It was acceptable in the 80's

Aug 23rd, 2006, 10:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	wonder if the JCW race filter still has the nasty paper element???

Aug 23rd, 2006, 11:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 571 Offline	I spoke to the JC team last week about this filter - has the same element as the normal JCW unit. - Just without the flap and electronic gubbins. I'll be ordering one next week but also getting the GTT Element soon after. MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Aug 23rd, 2006, 11:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	yeah i have the GTT element just not got round to fitting it in my JCW box

Aug 24th, 2006, 05:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
s_and_m 220 of your finest horses Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 6800 rpm Local Time: 11:40 PM Posts: 3,065 Offline	Could you not Simple take a stock airbox and cut a hole in the back? If the "Race" version is the JCW210 box with out the electronically actuated flap, can you not simply make a hole and have done? Or does the JCW airbox have other tricks up it's sleeves? S

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