[G8BAD_COOPER]

Right as im getting a reputation on here for having more money than sence (because im an international porn star)

I'd like to know what i'd have to do to my Cooper to give it an S engine? I know that they are basically the same apart from a supercharger the size of Norfolk! and also the S has a 6-speed box, but what else would need to be uprated (modified/changed) for me to here the whistle of an S when i plant my right foot???

[Dom]

The insides of the engine are slightly different. It'd be easier to either buy a Cooper S, or take it somewhere that specialises in supercharged conversions...

Dom

[G8BAD_COOPER]

but you could then kiss the warenty good bye..... at least this way all part are BMW approved?

[Dom]

Yeah, but they might get arsey as it used to be a cooper...

Dom

[Dom]

Besides... the way you're going it won't be long before all the warranty has gone anyway

Dom

[moonshine]

Rods, crank, pistons??? & some other stuff was strenghtened too and the compression is lowered as well.

gerry

[HarryHBMCC]

Trade your Cooper in for an S if that's what you want. The S has the battery in the trunk/boot for crying out loud! It would be much more expensive to convert a Cooper than to buy an S using the trade-in value.

If you just want to add forced induction to your Cooper then mod shops can probably give you something for enough $$$.

Harry

[AidenL]

Just buy the S.........easiest route !

[monsta]

Quote:

Originally posted by G8BAD_COOPER
but you could then kiss the warenty good bye..... at least this way all part are BMW approved?

There's no way BMW would honour your warranty just because you put the supercharger from another one of their cars onto yours.

How would they know the work was done properly... etc.

[noahe]

Eaton Supercharger
Stronger crank-shaft
Stronger valves
Stronger Pistons
Different ECU with more sensors
Dual-mass flywheel?
Extra bearing on drive-shaft
6-Spd Getrag transmission
high flow air cleaner element (move battery)
air-to-air intercooler
different exhaust

There might be a few more items, but those are the major ones. To echo what has been said, it would be cheaper to sell your Cooper and buy an S, even if you did plan to do minor upgrades over time.

[AustraliaMiniMan]

No one seemed to mention, different Bonnet, after all it has to fit in somewhere.

[jtalarico]

Also, it isn't like the stock tranny is just one gear shy of the S tranny. They put the Getrag in because the stock unit couldn't handle the increase torque from the S engine. You'd be doing some serious damage to your car if you just boosted the power output.

[G8BAD_COOPER]

Hmmmm..... I know the most practical thing to do is to buy an S, but i cant afford one just yet.... although i can afford to spend money on my Cooper in small(ish) amounts...

and what do you think would get more attention, a Cooper thats faster than an S, or a standard S????

Although there does seem to be alot of work involved (and this is just one of my ideas to increase the power) id be looking at buying the parts needed off of a crashed S from a breakers yard.... (i know of a couple of places where expensive crashed cars go)

And (monsta) you say that fitting S parts would effect the warenty...... you may be right, then again....

at the moment this is just an idea, and if anyone else knows of how to increase the power on a Cooper to more than an S then answers on a postcard in this thread please...

im going to send MINIuk an e-mail to see where i stand with the warenty and also phone up a few insurance breaking yards to see how much dosh id need to invest if i was to do this....

all i can do is try, you never know???

[monsta]

Lee, I'm telling you mate that there is no way your warranty will remain in tact. End of story.

The warranty states that any modifications from standard form make it void.

Regardless of whether you are making your car the same as another model made by them, you have modified it from the way it came out of the factory therefore, no warranty.

[Dshelton]

Dont do it mate. Nice idea and all, but NO!!! Leave it for abit then do the mods. Thats what im havin to do and i know its painful but im sure the rewards will be great!

Dan

[G8BAD_COOPER]

party poopers

[Dshelton]

I know ive writen this b4...but i wanna spoil ppls fun (Just kiddin!!) Right here we go.

All MINI owners should note that:

1) You may change your wheels for anything u want, but if u wanna go back and take it in for p/ex or to sell BMW as a policy will not sell it unless the wheels are of MINI origin (Legal thing, if anyone noticed on the PS game GT2 BMW was the only company u cannot change the wheels...They seem to go the whole hog to keep their image). Also fittin too large wheels and they mess the arches up then im affraid its ur own fault!!

2) Any drive train mod - AND THATS ANY!!! - will invalidate the warranty. BUT only if it has caused a problem with the car. So if u put a Piper X in and the wiper motors went the warranty will still stand.

3) Stereos can be changed for whatever u want (Dom - That includes the whole contents of the Ministry of Sound u shoe horned into the boot)

4) Exteriour parts can be changed as long as they are MINI official parts. Any aftermarket parts have to be removed when traded/part ex etc...

5) Graphics do not (yet!!) seem to be a problem, more of a feature for future buyers.

6) Not sure on tinted windows (Will enquire in a month)

7) Interiour - same as exteriour.

Probaly missed some bits but i will endevour to publish the laws of BMW soon

[jtalarico]

...not to mention resale value.

If you have a MINI Cooper and you steadily upgrade it to "become" a Cooper S, you'll end up with less than the resale value of your original Cooper.

If your car ever (30 or 40 years from now) shows up on the auction block, it would be treated like a replica, or at the very least, an attempt to deceive the buyer.

Don't do it. For the sake of my kid who might be at that auction some day, don't do it.

[HarryHBMCC]

If you want a Cooper that goes faster than an S, start with the driver! As the thread in General about the guy who cracked up his S after owning it for three days shows, any idiot can crash his S by driving stoopid. A good Cooper driver will out drive an average S driver every day of the week. So if you have some money to spend, perhaps a good advanced driver training course would be a good 'mod'

Harry

[Dshelton]

Quote:

Originally posted by HarryIndiBlue
If you want a Cooper that goes faster than an S, start with the driver! As the thread in General about the guy who cracked up his S after owning it for three days shows, any idiot can crash his S by driving stoopid. A good Cooper driver will out drive an average S driver every day of the week. So if you have some money to spend, perhaps a good advanced driver training course would be a good 'mod'

Harry

I fully agree.