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minime s · Aug 8th, 2002, 12:48 PM

Is there anyone making a Turbo Kit for the "S" ?

monsta · Aug 8th, 2002, 12:55 PM

A Turbo and a supercharger??!

suprchrgdmini · Aug 8th, 2002, 02:00 PM

NO YOU WOULD REPLACE THE SUPERCHARGER FOR A TURBO INSTEAD.

monsta · Aug 8th, 2002, 03:39 PM

Stop shouting!

I was just kidding

JonBlakeburn · Aug 8th, 2002, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by suprchrgdmini
NO YOU WOULD REPLACE THE SUPERCHARGER FOR A TURBO INSTEAD.

I can't see the benefit of it. Surely it's less responsive due to it running from exhaust gases as opposed to straight from the engine?

Dom · Aug 8th, 2002, 06:43 PM

Modern technology with superchargers means they're favoured over turbos. Cooler temperatures, no lag etc. Personally, I'd uprate the supercharger rather than spending money turbocharging.

Dom

Drakken · Aug 8th, 2002, 11:06 PM

It has been done before.

HKS used to make a Twin Charger kit for the Supercharged MR2 (88-89). It used a low pressure turbo in addition to the stock roots type blower. This kit worked well for the MR2 and made a lot of power. It was also reliable.

olddad · Aug 9th, 2002, 02:26 AM

A problem would be chipping to allow adjustment of mixture, otherwise the S engine would appear ideal with it's 8.3 to 1 pistons and upgraded exhaust parts.

The old trick on turbocharging is to have cockpit adjustable power via a fishtank aerator valve. Mount a 6 lb. wastegate for superior gas mileage, then tap into it with a little piece of tubing. Route the tubing to the dash to a fish tank air valve and bleed air from the wastegate, fooling it into thinking the 6 lbs. has hot been reached yet. Need a boost gauge to mark settings so you don't overboost. Jack it up to 15 lbs. to make it fly, and drop it back to save gas.

Works good on a Turbo Metro with the Garret unit right up until the A+ engine blows up!

S. on Da 5 · Aug 9th, 2002, 06:24 AM

Maby for a MINI. I don't see it becoming a modification for a S.

I don't think anybody would buy it for an S. I could see people buying it for a MINI if it was made right.

gdmini · Aug 9th, 2002, 01:15 PM

The Mini-Mania website says that they are working on developing one. I'm pretty sure that it would be for a Cooper not an S.

Drakken · Aug 9th, 2002, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gdmini
The Mini-Mania website says that they are working on developing one. I'm pretty sure that it would be for a Cooper not an S.

Yes, that's for the Cooper.

SSj4G60 · Aug 21st, 2002, 01:20 AM

A turbo would net more power but the power band would be totally different , ill compare a vw G60 which is similar , the highest dynoed 8v G60 is 192hp and 199tq at the wheels this car was running 18psi,Air to Water IC no cam but massive headwork was done most G60s running 16psi/Cam/Chip/Intake/Exhaust/stock head and stock A=>A IC run roung 170-180 for both hp and tq , now one guy dynoed his Turbo converted G60 w/ 214hp and 239tq at the wheels running 20psi and 30# injectors and custom chip thats it, youll net more power but drivability will be totally different for a daily driver id stay S/C'd but for a weekend warrior go Turbo

Aug 8th, 2002, 12:48 PM	#1
minime s M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 631 Offline	TURBO ???? Anyone making it ?????? Is there anyone making a Turbo Kit for the "S" ? 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a

Aug 8th, 2002, 12:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 4,573 Offline	A Turbo and a supercharger??! the MINI has gone...

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monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 4,573 Offline	Stop shouting! I was just kidding the MINI has gone...

Aug 8th, 2002, 04:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
JonBlakeburn Indecisive MINI Owner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: United Kingdom Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 473 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by suprchrgdmini NO YOU WOULD REPLACE THE SUPERCHARGER FOR A TURBO INSTEAD. I can't see the benefit of it. Surely it's less responsive due to it running from exhaust gases as opposed to straight from the engine? Jon Blakeburn 2002 Raven Blue Lupo GTi

Aug 9th, 2002, 02:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
olddad MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Yreka, CA Local Time: 02:39 PM Posts: 432 Offline	A problem would be chipping to allow adjustment of mixture, otherwise the S engine would appear ideal with it's 8.3 to 1 pistons and upgraded exhaust parts. The old trick on turbocharging is to have cockpit adjustable power via a fishtank aerator valve. Mount a 6 lb. wastegate for superior gas mileage, then tap into it with a little piece of tubing. Route the tubing to the dash to a fish tank air valve and bleed air from the wastegate, fooling it into thinking the 6 lbs. has hot been reached yet. Need a boost gauge to mark settings so you don't overboost. Jack it up to 15 lbs. to make it fly, and drop it back to save gas. Works good on a Turbo Metro with the Garret unit right up until the A+ engine blows up! Cooper S Red/White/White, Air, Computer, Cloth, DSC, Cold Weather. August build.

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Aug 8th, 2002, 02:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
suprchrgdmini BOLT ON MASTER Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island NY Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 516 Offline	NO YOU WOULD REPLACE THE SUPERCHARGER FOR A TURBO INSTEAD.

Aug 8th, 2002, 06:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 8,420 Offline	Modern technology with superchargers means they're favoured over turbos. Cooler temperatures, no lag etc. Personally, I'd uprate the supercharger rather than spending money turbocharging. Dom

Aug 8th, 2002, 11:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Drakken MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 283 Offline	It has been done before. HKS used to make a Twin Charger kit for the Supercharged MR2 (88-89). It used a low pressure turbo in addition to the stock roots type blower. This kit worked well for the MR2 and made a lot of power. It was also reliable.

Aug 9th, 2002, 06:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
S. on Da 5 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Anaheim, California USA Local Time: 01:39 PM Posts: 18 Offline	Maby for a MINI. I don't see it becoming a modification for a S. I don't think anybody would buy it for an S. I could see people buying it for a MINI if it was made right. www.focaljet.com Rocks!

Aug 9th, 2002, 01:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
gdmini MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Local Time: 01:39 PM Posts: 27 Offline	The Mini-Mania website says that they are working on developing one. I'm pretty sure that it would be for a Cooper not an S. Electric Blue MCS body colored roof Sport Package Premium Package Lapis Blue Leather "Scooter" was born on 7/25 Picked up on 9/13...WooHoo!

Aug 9th, 2002, 01:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Drakken MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 05:39 PM Posts: 283 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by gdmini The Mini-Mania website says that they are working on developing one. I'm pretty sure that it would be for a Cooper not an S. Yes, that's for the Cooper.

Aug 21st, 2002, 01:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
SSj4G60 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: L.I. NY Local Time: 04:39 PM Posts: 11 Offline	A turbo would net more power but the power band would be totally different , ill compare a vw G60 which is similar , the highest dynoed 8v G60 is 192hp and 199tq at the wheels this car was running 18psi,Air to Water IC no cam but massive headwork was done most G60s running 16psi/Cam/Chip/Intake/Exhaust/stock head and stock A=>A IC run roung 170-180 for both hp and tq , now one guy dynoed his Turbo converted G60 w/ 214hp and 239tq at the wheels running 20psi and 30# injectors and custom chip thats it, youll net more power but drivability will be totally different for a daily driver id stay S/C'd but for a weekend warrior go Turbo Silent Bob of AK www.AutoKrieg.com 1990 VW Corrado G60 1.9 , 9:1 , Stage um i lost count

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