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Shaddow72 · Oct 4th, 2006, 08:10 PM

What is the all around best performance upgrade (besides tires) one can do that's the best bang for the buck?

I'm assuming it's an ECU or chip upgrade.

Paul · Oct 4th, 2006, 08:18 PM

Do you mean for the current car, or the new car? You've posted this in the 2nd gen forum, and for that car there's not much known as it's a new engine etc.

MINIAC · Oct 4th, 2006, 08:22 PM

And if you mean the current car, you need to identify which model

Shaddow72 · Oct 5th, 2006, 06:14 AM

06 Cooper S.

Root Ginger · Oct 5th, 2006, 07:45 AM

A reduction pulley to give you more boost. Cheap and will give you the biggest BHP increase.

Shaddow72 · Oct 5th, 2006, 03:36 PM

Which manufacturer do you guys get this pulley from?

Also, how''d you rate the install job? (Time / difficulty / tools needed?)

Root Ginger · Oct 5th, 2006, 04:00 PM

You need a pulley extractor so it's probably best to pay a MINI specialist to do it. I belive some may come with an extractor but don't hold me to that. Best places? I'd say start in the sponsor directory, up top and have a look through there.

Maybe try searching for peoples experiences of particular pulleys. TBH they are all much of a muchness but come in different percentages. Generally 15, 17 and 19% reduction. 15% is probably the best place to start especially with no other mods.

MINIAC · Oct 5th, 2006, 04:04 PM

Pulley Installation

Bilbo Baggins · Oct 5th, 2006, 06:08 PM

Cheapest and best bang for the buck is preformance driving lessons for the driver. Nothing else comes close.

JOHO

Bilbo Baggins · Oct 5th, 2006, 06:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Shaddow72 (original)

06 Cooper S.

Manual or automatic? The automatic will not support the pulley enhancement.

Shaddow72 · Oct 5th, 2006, 08:10 PM

Manual gearbox, Bilbo.

Anyway, thanks for all the replies. I'm a part time mechanic and just, this is how I heard to do it, hoisting up the engine a little and extracting the old pulley and installing the new one doesn't seem like much on paper. Although you can never tell.

Actually, I'm still awaiting the arrival of my car. I'm just excited and looking forward to what I can do.

Professional driving classes are definitely in the future, well, at least a track day here and there. But I'm always looking for something to enhance my driving experience so I'm looking at all the modification possibilities.

snid · Oct 5th, 2006, 10:41 PM

Hmmm... there's lots of answers to this one.

The pulley will get you the most cheap horsepower.

Instruction / driver ability is the most valuable.

Tires are probably the most useful as they help acceleration, braking, and cornering.

If you're going to spend time on the track, brakes are the most important upgrade (at least pads and fluid).

Front camber plates make a big difference in handling, but a bigger rear swaybar is cheaper and has a similar effect. The combo of a rear swaybar and front camber plates can make a really good corner carver.

it depends on what you're going for.

Just fast? pulley
Track? Instruction, brakes, tires, suspension, then power - perhaps tires before brakes, but I doubt it.

Shaddow72 · Oct 6th, 2006, 07:22 AM

Good reply man. Thanks, summed that right up for me.

Gr1zzLy · Oct 10th, 2006, 05:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by snid (original)

Instruction / driver ability is the most valuable.

Too true.... I managed to shave 9 seconds off my first session best lap time just by having an instructor next to me explaining/correcting my driving style. Albeit the final best lap time wasn't so great, but a good achievement nonetheless... and a good foundation to improve upon.

Oct 4th, 2006, 08:10 PM	#1
Shaddow72 The man in black Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trenton, New Jersey Local Time: 04:37 PM Posts: 42 Offline	Best performance upgrade for the $ ? What is the all around best performance upgrade (besides tires) one can do that's the best bang for the buck? I'm assuming it's an ECU or chip upgrade.

Oct 4th, 2006, 08:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 09:37 PM Posts: 40,354 Online	Do you mean for the current car, or the new car? You've posted this in the 2nd gen forum, and for that car there's not much known as it's a new engine etc. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Oct 5th, 2006, 07:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 09:37 PM Posts: 4,634 Offline	A reduction pulley to give you more boost. Cheap and will give you the biggest BHP increase. It was acceptable in the 80's

Oct 5th, 2006, 04:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 09:37 PM Posts: 4,634 Offline	You need a pulley extractor so it's probably best to pay a MINI specialist to do it. I belive some may come with an extractor but don't hold me to that. Best places? I'd say start in the sponsor directory, up top and have a look through there. Maybe try searching for peoples experiences of particular pulleys. TBH they are all much of a muchness but come in different percentages. Generally 15, 17 and 19% reduction. 15% is probably the best place to start especially with no other mods. It was acceptable in the 80's

Oct 5th, 2006, 06:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bilbo Baggins MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Shire, Middle Earth Local Time: 05:37 PM Posts: 8,852 Offline	Cheapest and best bang for the buck is preformance driving lessons for the driver. Nothing else comes close. JOHO Motor on, Dudes and Dudettes!!! '06 MCS SB/S '02 MCS DS/W (retired)

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Oct 4th, 2006, 08:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 8,618 Online	And if you mean the current car, you need to identify which model

Oct 5th, 2006, 06:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
Shaddow72 The man in black Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trenton, New Jersey Local Time: 04:37 PM Posts: 42 Offline	06 Cooper S.

Oct 5th, 2006, 03:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Shaddow72 The man in black Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trenton, New Jersey Local Time: 04:37 PM Posts: 42 Offline	Which manufacturer do you guys get this pulley from? Also, how''d you rate the install job? (Time / difficulty / tools needed?)

Oct 5th, 2006, 04:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 8,618 Online	Pulley Installation

Oct 5th, 2006, 06:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bilbo Baggins MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Shire, Middle Earth Local Time: 05:37 PM Posts: 8,852 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Shaddow72 (original) 06 Cooper S. Manual or automatic? The automatic will not support the pulley enhancement. Motor on, Dudes and Dudettes!!! '06 MCS SB/S '02 MCS DS/W (retired)

Oct 5th, 2006, 08:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
Shaddow72 The man in black Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trenton, New Jersey Local Time: 04:37 PM Posts: 42 Offline	Manual gearbox, Bilbo. Anyway, thanks for all the replies. I'm a part time mechanic and just, this is how I heard to do it, hoisting up the engine a little and extracting the old pulley and installing the new one doesn't seem like much on paper. Although you can never tell. Actually, I'm still awaiting the arrival of my car. I'm just excited and looking forward to what I can do. Professional driving classes are definitely in the future, well, at least a track day here and there. But I'm always looking for something to enhance my driving experience so I'm looking at all the modification possibilities.

Oct 5th, 2006, 10:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
snid brown is back Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Local Time: 04:37 PM Posts: 4,220 Offline	Hmmm... there's lots of answers to this one. The pulley will get you the most cheap horsepower. Instruction / driver ability is the most valuable. Tires are probably the most useful as they help acceleration, braking, and cornering. If you're going to spend time on the track, brakes are the most important upgrade (at least pads and fluid). Front camber plates make a big difference in handling, but a bigger rear swaybar is cheaper and has a similar effect. The combo of a rear swaybar and front camber plates can make a really good corner carver. it depends on what you're going for. Just fast? pulley Track? Instruction, brakes, tires, suspension, then power - perhaps tires before brakes, but I doubt it. jtross \| snid \| jason - bloggage (including videos)

Oct 6th, 2006, 07:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
Shaddow72 The man in black Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trenton, New Jersey Local Time: 04:37 PM Posts: 42 Offline	Good reply man. Thanks, summed that right up for me.

Oct 10th, 2006, 05:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
Gr1zzLy Crapping in the woods... Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:37 AM Posts: 1,754 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by snid (original) Instruction / driver ability is the most valuable. Too true.... I managed to shave 9 seconds off my first session best lap time just by having an instructor next to me explaining/correcting my driving style. Albeit the final best lap time wasn't so great, but a good achievement nonetheless... and a good foundation to improve upon.

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