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vicov · Oct 25th, 2006, 05:28 PM

I have just spoken with Sytner (Coventry) for a supply & fit price for a JCW Air Filter System (part # 13720391513). "Not possible on a standard MCS sir, you need the JCW engine upgrade to incorporate that part as the standard engine does not produce enough horsepower for it to work"!
Oh Really !!!!
Discuss.

Mr Grean · Oct 25th, 2006, 05:40 PM

That is wrong...if you install the filter and associated wiring but NOT the upgraded injectors. Kits are available without the injectors...I have one on my MCS. I would not have any dealings with that dealer if they do not know that basic info.

faster,Tobias! · Oct 25th, 2006, 06:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by vicov (original)

I have just spoken with Sytner (Coventry) for a supply & fit price for a JCW Air Filter System (part # 13720391513). "Not possible on a standard MCS sir, you need the JCW engine upgrade to incorporate that part as the standard engine does not produce enough horsepower for it to work"!
Oh Really !!!!
Discuss.

Are you referring to the entire JCW airbox? If so, whomever it was you spoke to needs a new vocation! Yes, the box can be added by itself; no, there are no negative performance issues or complications as a result; bonus - a little more 'humph' and a marvellous change in the noises!

Capsaisin · Oct 31st, 2006, 12:16 PM

The part number you have is for the airbox only, without the injectors, so Sytner(Coventry) are obviously the sort of dealer you might want to avoid in future. You can fit this part to a standard MCS.

wheyaye2 · Oct 31st, 2006, 05:15 PM

The bloke didn't give you the correct advice.

They will definitely work with or without the JCW kit, wiring and all.

Richard Crofts · Oct 31st, 2006, 05:38 PM

Yes it fits. The dealer is telling porkies to make you buy the whole JCW kit. TBH I don't think they are supposed to sell you any JCW part unless you have a JCW chassis number, if you have that then its all good. Just get yourslef a JCW chassis number and then call in at anouther dealer and pick up the part and pay £X and then fit to the car. The box on own fits and works fine, I know several people who have fitted to non JCW cars.

Checkie_checkmate · Oct 31st, 2006, 05:41 PM

I certainly have a JCW box with no JCW kit. Fitted by another user here.......works brilliantly, added noise and i would say a bit smoother under acceleration.

If you do get one though i recomend the GTT hybrid filter upgrade

GCoopS · Oct 31st, 2006, 06:49 PM

Just had 1 fitted to my MCS by Woodmans. Thats the dealer tryin to get more £ out of u.

vicov · Oct 31st, 2006, 07:16 PM

Thanks for all your comments and advice. I'll try again (elsewhere).

wheyaye2 · Oct 31st, 2006, 07:21 PM

Failing the chassis number, I shipped mine in from the US.

UK -> USA -> UK; and still cheaper than buying direct including customs charges, work that one out

marc-s · Nov 23rd, 2006, 09:39 PM

Hisoon to be picking up my cps and wanted to fit a jcw airbox myself. Can you let me know the cost of the box itself and how much mini will charge as to programming?

Ant FR · Nov 24th, 2006, 08:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Checkie_checkmate (original)

I certainly have a JCW box with no JCW kit. Fitted by another user here.......works brilliantly, added noise and i would say a bit smoother under acceleration.

If you do get one though i recomend the GTT hybrid filter upgrade

does the GTT hybrid make that much difference, i just fitted a modded JCW filter from JCW and was a little bit dissapointed by it, should i look to getting the GTT hubrid to make the sound a little bit more, oooomphy,

Ant FR · Nov 24th, 2006, 08:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by marc-s (original)

Hisoon to be picking up my cps and wanted to fit a jcw airbox myself. Can you let me know the cost of the box itself and how much mini will charge as to programming?

150 quid if you ged the modded one from Johncooper.co.uk

Oct 25th, 2006, 05:28 PM	#1
vicov MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 10:54 PM Posts: 6 Offline	JCW Air Filter System I have just spoken with Sytner (Coventry) for a supply & fit price for a JCW Air Filter System (part # 13720391513). "Not possible on a standard MCS sir, you need the JCW engine upgrade to incorporate that part as the standard engine does not produce enough horsepower for it to work"! Oh Really !!!! Discuss.

Oct 31st, 2006, 05:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
Checkie_checkmate MINI2 Senior Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Swindon Local Time: 09:54 PM Posts: 399 Offline	I certainly have a JCW box with no JCW kit. Fitted by another user here.......works brilliantly, added noise and i would say a bit smoother under acceleration. If you do get one though i recomend the GTT hybrid filter upgrade Checkmate mad owner

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Oct 25th, 2006, 05:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr Grean MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Local Time: 09:54 PM Posts: 85 Offline	That is wrong...if you install the filter and associated wiring but NOT the upgraded injectors. Kits are available without the injectors...I have one on my MCS. I would not have any dealings with that dealer if they do not know that basic info.

Oct 25th, 2006, 06:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
faster,Tobias! Fanatically Enthiusiastic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Local Time: 02:54 PM Posts: 1,165 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by vicov (original) I have just spoken with Sytner (Coventry) for a supply & fit price for a JCW Air Filter System (part # 13720391513). "Not possible on a standard MCS sir, you need the JCW engine upgrade to incorporate that part as the standard engine does not produce enough horsepower for it to work"! Oh Really !!!! Discuss. Are you referring to the entire JCW airbox? If so, whomever it was you spoke to needs a new vocation! Yes, the box can be added by itself; no, there are no negative performance issues or complications as a result; bonus - a little more 'humph' and a marvellous change in the noises!

Oct 31st, 2006, 12:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Capsaisin cave capsicum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crewe Local Time: 10:54 PM Posts: 3,364 Offline	The part number you have is for the airbox only, without the injectors, so Sytner(Coventry) are obviously the sort of dealer you might want to avoid in future. You can fit this part to a standard MCS.

Oct 31st, 2006, 05:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
wheyaye2 On a MINI adventure My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sabinillas, España Local Time: 09:54 PM Posts: 267 Offline	The bloke didn't give you the correct advice. They will definitely work with or without the JCW kit, wiring and all.

Oct 31st, 2006, 05:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 09:54 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	Yes it fits. The dealer is telling porkies to make you buy the whole JCW kit. TBH I don't think they are supposed to sell you any JCW part unless you have a JCW chassis number, if you have that then its all good. Just get yourslef a JCW chassis number and then call in at anouther dealer and pick up the part and pay £X and then fit to the car. The box on own fits and works fine, I know several people who have fitted to non JCW cars.

Oct 31st, 2006, 06:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
GCoopS Happy Cooper S Owner :-) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ormskirk Local Time: 09:54 PM Posts: 185 Offline	Just had 1 fitted to my MCS by Woodmans. Thats the dealer tryin to get more £ out of u.

Oct 31st, 2006, 07:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
vicov MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 10:54 PM Posts: 6 Offline	Thanks for all your comments and advice. I'll try again (elsewhere).

Oct 31st, 2006, 07:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
wheyaye2 On a MINI adventure My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sabinillas, España Local Time: 09:54 PM Posts: 267 Offline	Failing the chassis number, I shipped mine in from the US. UK -> USA -> UK; and still cheaper than buying direct including customs charges, work that one out

Nov 23rd, 2006, 09:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
marc-s MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2006 Local Time: 10:54 PM Posts: 67 Offline	Hisoon to be picking up my cps and wanted to fit a jcw airbox myself. Can you let me know the cost of the box itself and how much mini will charge as to programming?

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Nov 24th, 2006, 08:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:54 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Checkie_checkmate (original) I certainly have a JCW box with no JCW kit. Fitted by another user here.......works brilliantly, added noise and i would say a bit smoother under acceleration. If you do get one though i recomend the GTT hybrid filter upgrade does the GTT hybrid make that much difference, i just fitted a modded JCW filter from JCW and was a little bit dissapointed by it, should i look to getting the GTT hubrid to make the sound a little bit more, oooomphy,

Nov 24th, 2006, 08:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:54 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by marc-s (original) Hisoon to be picking up my cps and wanted to fit a jcw airbox myself. Can you let me know the cost of the box itself and how much mini will charge as to programming? 150 quid if you ged the modded one from Johncooper.co.uk