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Old Nov 9th, 2006, 06:48 PM   #1
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Engine damper

Hi has anyone here in England used one of these?

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Old Nov 9th, 2006, 08:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have just ordered 15 of them in a Group Buy in our Dutch NewMINIclub
They are on their way, I hope to have them next week so then I can tell more about the experencies of 15 MINI owners.

4 of them are going to be used in race prepared Coopers in the Dutch MINI Endurance Cup.

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Old Nov 9th, 2006, 08:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Interesting

Was good to see what was said by a Cooper owner: NAM

I would be interested to see what MINI2ers have to say about them if there is anyone out there that has one
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Old Nov 9th, 2006, 10:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I was just wondering if people over here used them. I wouldn't mind getting one but I don't want to order one from the states. Are there any UK sellers for them, if so what companies?
I'm sure they work well if they are that big in the states.
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Old Nov 9th, 2006, 11:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old Nov 9th, 2006, 11:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I got a 15% discount for the group buy at very acceptable shipping costs (and good and quick replies from Texas Speedwerks) .

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Old Nov 9th, 2006, 11:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Adam How much will you be selling them for?
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Old Nov 10th, 2006, 07:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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another must have mod by the looks

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Old Nov 10th, 2006, 02:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I want one please!

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I've ordered from the same place as Berthil

Their version even though more expensive, looks to be better placed and better engineered with the very substantial brackets keeping the damper directly in line with the engines movement.
They do 2 versions depending on which engine mounts you have.
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Can't wait for this to arrive
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Old Nov 12th, 2006, 10:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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They look great and seem to be up to the job. Out of interest what does NVH stand for? Something harmonics???
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Old Nov 13th, 2006, 12:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Helix, a MINI2 sponsor sells them as well.

Texas Speedworks is not a MINI2 sponsor.
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Old Nov 13th, 2006, 01:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Noise, Vibration, and Harshness (NVH)
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There are two different dampers being discussed in this thread.

The Helix / LordOfTheFlies version is half the price of the Texas Speedworks version, mainly because it doesn't require brackets to be fitted (except in the case of 2002 and early 2003 builds).
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Old Nov 13th, 2006, 05:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I have ordered a texas speedwerks one, purely because the other mob didnt have the silver job in stock.

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Quote: Originally Posted by neilgj (original)
Noise, Vibration, and Harshness (NVH)

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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 02:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Can't wait for this to arrive

It's arrived

Dunno when I'll get to fit it though
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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 04:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Question Doubtful

Do these actually do anything?

They can't remove vibration - that already passes through the engine mounts.
They can't remove movement - they move themselves.
They can't remove noise - it's only a shock.

Unless anybody else can argue otherwise?

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Quote: Originally Posted by 260 GTT (original)
Do these actually do anything?

They can't remove vibration - that already passes through the engine mounts.
They can't remove movement - they move themselves.
They can't remove noise - it's only a shock.

Unless anybody else can argue otherwise?

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The engine damper has a similar effect of installing a stiffer engine mount, without having to replace the mount or its bushings. It actually adds both vibration and noise because it is an additional path to transmit them from the engine to the passenger compartment.

It reduces movement, not remove it. Open your bonnet and watch how much the engine moves as you rev it in neutral. An engine damper limits the amount of motion.

In the end, it is the usual tradeoff between comfort and performance, just like using a softer or stiffer suspension.
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Old Nov 29th, 2006, 05:19 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Babes (original)
I have ordered a texas speedwerks one, purely because the other mob didnt have the silver job in stock.

Who are you calling a "mob"? And what does "mob" mean anyways?

Quote: Originally Posted by 260 GTT (original)
Do these actually do anything?

They can't remove vibration - that already passes through the engine mounts.
They can't remove movement - they move themselves.
They can't remove noise - it's only a shock.

Unless anybody else can argue otherwise?

Cheers,
K.

Hi there everybody. I am the guy that is selling the engine dampers as per the original link. I am also the guy supplying Helix with the dampers.

With the dampers you really notice a nice difference during hard shifting. No longer do you have to wait for the clunk to pass before punching it into the next gear. Moving from a standstill is also greatly improved as you no longer have that terrible "shudder", as if you didn't know how to engage the car.

As far as the NVH is concerned, I feel almost zero difference in my car with the damper installed.

And before the mod gods get on me, I have repeatedly tried to gain sponsorship on MINI2 but have been informed that Paul Mullet is currently unavailable for personal reasons so that is the only reason why I have not yet become a vendor.

I am currently a vendor on NAM.

If anybody has any questions please feel free to contact me at sales@shoe-in.net.

And for reference here are some customer comments:

Quote: Originally Posted by Customer Comments
"The end result after several weeks of driving is WOW."

"I got my engine damper installed tonight and I love it!!!!!! It's awesome!"

"Smooth is the best description."

"The transition from gear to gear feels much smoother."

"The engine damper has fixed the torque steer problem I was having. No matter how hard I try, it's totally gone - amazing!"

"I have a March 03' build MCS and installed mine today with no problems. It took about 10 minutes to install. I used a 11/16" wrench instead of the 17mm and it still worked just fine."

"On my test drive I felt it in the shifting, more 'crisp' and communicative... There is a directness to the shifting that I never felt before in my car... And that shudder getting going in 1st gear is minimized..But I think this mod really shines when you let 'er rip .. The power just goes down, much more direct, and a much less sloppy feeling than before..."

"Over here in Germany we drive a little bit faster we all suffer from those vibrations and engine-movement when shifting under high load and especially in nice corners. The engine movement has stop completely and I can say this was one of the unexpensive but most noticeable mods to do!"



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