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04indimcs · Mar 4th, 2007, 04:48 PM

Hi everyone, I'm new to this site and i thought id ask a few questions. Sorry if this has been posted already. I have an 04 mcs and because the warranty is almost up I'm thinking about buying a 15% pulley, lightened crank pulley, and an alta cai.

1.) My question is would it be beneficial to buy an ECU remap for these types of mods.

2.) If i did buy the remap, does it reduce reliability or longevity of the car.

3.) Will i need new spark plugs?

4.) Finally, I live in the U.S. and my dealer advised me to run 89 octane. should i increase to 93 after these mods.

Thanks for the help and sorry for all the questions.

CC07ERS · Mar 4th, 2007, 05:17 PM

get the ecu remap & defo use higher octane
Welcome to the site

Paul Webster · Mar 4th, 2007, 10:20 PM

You can do those mods without a remap, make sure you run 93 and just remember how lucky you are that you dont pay $7 a gallon

04indimcs · Mar 4th, 2007, 11:31 PM

Now that you mention that, $2.80 doesn't seem so bad anymore

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Basically, my biggest concern is how the remap would effect the reliability and longevity of my car. So if anyone would answer that it would be greatly appreciated. Also i was thinking about the MTH remap.

Ant FR · Mar 5th, 2007, 12:18 AM

well i supose the yanks get it cheaper, but hey, its 89 or 93 octane, that must be why its so cheap......lol Mine only gets fed 99 octane these days

DaFlake · Mar 5th, 2007, 08:02 AM

Being a US citizen living in Germany I feel the pain of high gas prices....

Anyway, as mentioned above, a remap is not needed for those mods. However, you would benefit from a remap with some extra horses and a car that understands what you have done to it. The choice is yours...

As for the plugs, there are a lot of people that agree to disagree. Personally I think that colder plugs are a joke for the MINI with what you are doing. I have been running a 15% pulley for well over six months on stock plugs with no problems. Personally I think that it is a way for vendors to simply make a sale. Now, that being said, if you go beyond a 15% then it is a different game. Either way, I don't think that a 15% pulley is going to make a big enough difference to require the colder plugs. If you do decide to go with plugs stay away from Denso as they are not really designed for the MINI. NGK are the plugs used in the JCW and stock.

Higher octane gas is better. I run 93 here and my MINI runs great. I have a MM CAI with a 15% reduction pulley and a remap.

Paul Webster · Mar 5th, 2007, 08:28 AM

If you're in New York then you're lucky because MTH agent Don@ DMH Motorsports is in Califon NJ.

We run $5 NGK which are good enough to ignite 300bhp nitrous Mini

Have fun with your new power

WELCOME TO 1320autos.com

DaFlake · Mar 5th, 2007, 08:35 AM

LOL, Don is my source as well. Very good guy and will tell you like it is. I HIGHLY recommend him if you are in that area.

Tell him Will sent you.

Paul Webster · Mar 5th, 2007, 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

Tell him Will sent you.

Don't you mean Paul and Will

DaFlake · Mar 5th, 2007, 01:27 PM

Sure...

04indimcs · Mar 5th, 2007, 02:16 PM

Thanks DaFlake, I appreciate the answers. The only thing im afraid of is that ive been reading about all these people who have ruined there pistons while running stock plugs. Could anyone explain to me the likelyhood of that happening and whether i should be worried about that or not

DaFlake · Mar 5th, 2007, 06:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 04indimcs (original)

Thanks DaFlake, I appreciate the answers. The only thing im afraid of is that ive been reading about all these people who have ruined there pistons while running stock plugs. Could anyone explain to me the likelyhood of that happening and whether i should be worried about that or not

I have never read but maybe one or two people that say they have ruined their pistons on "stock" plugs. More than likely it was something else that caused the problem.

I have, however, seen many threads on people that have blown the number 2 plug out of their head leaving no threads....

The mods that you are talking about are not that big of a deal. However, if you want to run colder plugs, use NGK and not Denso. At least with NGK you will have a plug that is actually designed to work with your MINI.

04indimcs · Mar 5th, 2007, 07:48 PM

Thanks again DaFlake. Also i noticed that you had a similar setup of the pulley, CAI, and remap. How noticeable is the power increase and would i be anywhere near 200 hp? What is the exact part number of those NGK Iridiums that people use? Thanks

Haggi · Mar 5th, 2007, 09:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

If you're in New York then you're lucky because MTH agent Don@ DMH Motorsports is in Califon NJ.

We run $5 NGK which are good enough to ignite 300bhp nitrous Mini

Have fun with your new power

WELCOME TO 1320autos.com

yep after reading dons advice on nam i would go to him as well put it this way you are 100 times better off paying for some who has the skills and history and knowalge like don has i would only ever trust a motorspot enginer with my car

DaFlake · Mar 6th, 2007, 07:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 04indimcs (original)

Thanks again DaFlake. Also i noticed that you had a similar setup of the pulley, CAI, and remap. How noticeable is the power increase and would i be anywhere near 200 hp? What is the exact part number of those NGK Iridiums that people use? Thanks

Spark PlugPart No.Stock No.Plug GapPhotoV-PowerZFR6F-114291.045

G-PowerZFR6FGP7100.045

Laser PlatinumPZFR6F-11 *3271.045

Iridium IXZFR6FIX-116441.045

* “Laser Series” Platinum center electrode, and Platinum pad ground electrode

These are the part numbers from their site.

The power in my MINI is definetly noticible. She is much more aggressive at lower RPMs and with MTH she seems to have better drivability (smoother). As for the bhp, it is hard to say as I have not done a dyno nor will I as they have to be controlled to get "real" data. Don gives some pretty good numbers on his site that are ball park. Take a look at this page Mini Tuning DMH Motorsports under the MTH section. These numbers are more representative of what you would see in the real world.

DaFlake · Mar 6th, 2007, 07:26 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by JWF (original)

yep after reading dons advice on nam i would go to him as well put it this way you are 100 times better off paying for some who has the skills and history and knowalge like don has i would only ever trust a motorspot enginer with my car

Don is a standup guy and tells you like it is. Because of this some hate him and some love him but at least you know you are getting what you paid for with him. I have been trying to get him to come over here, but he is not certain if it would be "cost effective". We shall see....

Mar 4th, 2007, 04:48 PM	#1
04indimcs MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rochester, New York Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 11 Offline	A couple mod questions Hi everyone, I'm new to this site and i thought id ask a few questions. Sorry if this has been posted already. I have an 04 mcs and because the warranty is almost up I'm thinking about buying a 15% pulley, lightened crank pulley, and an alta cai. 1.) My question is would it be beneficial to buy an ECU remap for these types of mods. 2.) If i did buy the remap, does it reduce reliability or longevity of the car. 3.) Will i need new spark plugs? 4.) Finally, I live in the U.S. and my dealer advised me to run 89 octane. should i increase to 93 after these mods. Thanks for the help and sorry for all the questions. Last edited by 04indimcs : Mar 4th, 2007 at 05:57 PM.

Mar 4th, 2007, 10:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	You can do those mods without a remap, make sure you run 93 and just remember how lucky you are that you dont pay $7 a gallon Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Mar 4th, 2007, 11:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
04indimcs MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rochester, New York Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 11 Offline	Now that you mention that, $2.80 doesn't seem so bad anymore. Basically, my biggest concern is how the remap would effect the reliability and longevity of my car. So if anyone would answer that it would be greatly appreciated. Also i was thinking about the MTH remap.

Mar 5th, 2007, 08:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	Being a US citizen living in Germany I feel the pain of high gas prices.... Anyway, as mentioned above, a remap is not needed for those mods. However, you would benefit from a remap with some extra horses and a car that understands what you have done to it. The choice is yours... As for the plugs, there are a lot of people that agree to disagree. Personally I think that colder plugs are a joke for the MINI with what you are doing. I have been running a 15% pulley for well over six months on stock plugs with no problems. Personally I think that it is a way for vendors to simply make a sale. Now, that being said, if you go beyond a 15% then it is a different game. Either way, I don't think that a 15% pulley is going to make a big enough difference to require the colder plugs. If you do decide to go with plugs stay away from Denso as they are not really designed for the MINI. NGK are the plugs used in the JCW and stock. Higher octane gas is better. I run 93 here and my MINI runs great. I have a MM CAI with a 15% reduction pulley and a remap. Global Moderator

Mar 5th, 2007, 08:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	If you're in New York then you're lucky because MTH agent Don@ DMH Motorsports is in Califon NJ. We run $5 NGK which are good enough to ignite 300bhp nitrous Mini Have fun with your new power WELCOME TO 1320autos.com Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

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Mar 4th, 2007, 05:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 2,718 Offline	get the ecu remap & defo use higher octane Welcome to the site

Mar 5th, 2007, 12:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	well i supose the yanks get it cheaper, but hey, its 89 or 93 octane, that must be why its so cheap......lol Mine only gets fed 99 octane these days

Mar 5th, 2007, 08:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	LOL, Don is my source as well. Very good guy and will tell you like it is. I HIGHLY recommend him if you are in that area. Tell him Will sent you. Global Moderator

Mar 5th, 2007, 01:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) Tell him Will sent you. Don't you mean Paul and Will Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Mar 5th, 2007, 01:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	Sure... Global Moderator

Mar 5th, 2007, 02:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
04indimcs MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rochester, New York Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 11 Offline	Thanks DaFlake, I appreciate the answers. The only thing im afraid of is that ive been reading about all these people who have ruined there pistons while running stock plugs. Could anyone explain to me the likelyhood of that happening and whether i should be worried about that or not

Mar 5th, 2007, 06:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 04indimcs (original) Thanks DaFlake, I appreciate the answers. The only thing im afraid of is that ive been reading about all these people who have ruined there pistons while running stock plugs. Could anyone explain to me the likelyhood of that happening and whether i should be worried about that or not I have never read but maybe one or two people that say they have ruined their pistons on "stock" plugs. More than likely it was something else that caused the problem. I have, however, seen many threads on people that have blown the number 2 plug out of their head leaving no threads.... The mods that you are talking about are not that big of a deal. However, if you want to run colder plugs, use NGK and not Denso. At least with NGK you will have a plug that is actually designed to work with your MINI. Global Moderator

Mar 5th, 2007, 07:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
04indimcs MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rochester, New York Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 11 Offline	Thanks again DaFlake. Also i noticed that you had a similar setup of the pulley, CAI, and remap. How noticeable is the power increase and would i be anywhere near 200 hp? What is the exact part number of those NGK Iridiums that people use? Thanks

Mar 5th, 2007, 09:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
Haggi forwards and downwards Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: my rack Local Time: 09:49 PM Posts: 1,790 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) If you're in New York then you're lucky because MTH agent Don@ DMH Motorsports is in Califon NJ. We run $5 NGK which are good enough to ignite 300bhp nitrous Mini Have fun with your new power WELCOME TO 1320autos.com yep after reading dons advice on nam i would go to him as well put it this way you are 100 times better off paying for some who has the skills and history and knowalge like don has i would only ever trust a motorspot enginer with my car confusion, madness and disorder .............. my work here is done

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Mar 6th, 2007, 07:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 04indimcs (original) Thanks again DaFlake. Also i noticed that you had a similar setup of the pulley, CAI, and remap. How noticeable is the power increase and would i be anywhere near 200 hp? What is the exact part number of those NGK Iridiums that people use? Thanks Spark PlugPart No.Stock No.Plug GapPhotoV-PowerZFR6F-114291.045 G-PowerZFR6FGP7100.045 Laser PlatinumPZFR6F-11 3271.045 Iridium IXZFR6FIX-116441.045 “Laser Series” Platinum center electrode, and Platinum pad ground electrode These are the part numbers from their site. The power in my MINI is definetly noticible. She is much more aggressive at lower RPMs and with MTH she seems to have better drivability (smoother). As for the bhp, it is hard to say as I have not done a dyno nor will I as they have to be controlled to get "real" data. Don gives some pretty good numbers on his site that are ball park. Take a look at this page Mini Tuning DMH Motorsports under the MTH section. These numbers are more representative of what you would see in the real world. Global Moderator

Mar 6th, 2007, 07:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by JWF (original) yep after reading dons advice on nam i would go to him as well put it this way you are 100 times better off paying for some who has the skills and history and knowalge like don has i would only ever trust a motorspot enginer with my car Don is a standup guy and tells you like it is. Because of this some hate him and some love him but at least you know you are getting what you paid for with him. I have been trying to get him to come over here, but he is not certain if it would be "cost effective". We shall see.... Global Moderator

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