[Gogs]

Would anyone recommend fitting one of these to a cooper s?

I know that the pipe removes one of the rear boxes so what is the sound difference actually like? I have a Alta CAI fitted and love the sound of the charger but don't fancy a full stainless system as it would prob be too loud for my liking. The rear drivers side silencer is beginning to corrode so thought this would be an ideal solution and it'd also help shed some weight

[s_and_m]

Oh Yes!

I have the GTT re-route pipe (was going to get a Miltek or PlayMini but then I thought unless I change the manifold, there's not much point). So I got the re-reoute pipe as an add on to my GTT 220 kit.

It deletes a hunk of weight (good), sounds a little more grunty (also good) and must reduce a bit of back pressure (very good).

Sadly I can't tell you if the re-route pipe makes a noticeable difference as I had mine done with a heap of other changes, but I think it workd well.

S

Incidently, the re-route pipe still passes the very strict noise tests at Bedford Autodrome, so it is pretty civilised, but just a little bit rorty

[Rigsey]

I also have the re-route pipe fitted; I'd say is about 20% louder than stock but like S&M I had it added at the same time as the GTT220 package.

The sound now has a nice burble and rasp but is not too loud on the motorway when cruising.

[ScottyBoy]

Im interested in doing this, i do want a JCW exhaust but theres not many around so i guess i might end up doing this eventually!

[Gogs]

Wicked

I dont fancy forking out for a full stainless and would be more than happy if i could keep the standard system but with a little more noise

Just out of interest, has anyone fitted one of these to a fairly standard MCS?? If so was there any noticable differences other than noise?

[colink]

Definitely get a reroute I've got one on my GTT230 and it really does enhance the burble, without being too much of a pain on long runs. Plus, it does reduce back pressure. Stock back pressure is +2.5 PSI, stock with reroute pipe is +1.75 PSI. Works exhaust is +3.75 See here for more.

The only downside for me is that I still haven't found a decent chunky set of tailpipes, although I suppose the stock look is good for surprising Type R drivers as you blow them into the weeds

[s_and_m]

I really don't like the standard 'coke can' tail pipes - think the R56 units are much better, but like colink, I've yet to find a set of bolt on pipe tips that a) look good and b) don't cost silly money.

I guess the stock look is good for the 'Q' car appeal, but as my S is yellow, stickered up and on black alloys I've kind of blown the 'stealth' thing anyway

S

[Rigsey]

I have these fitted (see post 27)

http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...-thread-2.html

Their BMW parts which I managed to get from the classifieds here for £50.

Nice a subtle I think ...

[GTT 280]

Quote: Originally Posted by colink (original)

Definitely get a reroute I've got one on my GTT230 and it really does enhance the burble, without being too much of a pain on long runs. Plus, it does reduce back pressure. Stock back pressure is +2.5 PSI, stock with reroute pipe is +1.75 PSI. Works exhaust is +3.75 See here for more.

The only downside for me is that I still haven't found a decent chunky set of tailpipes, although I suppose the stock look is good for surprising Type R drivers as you blow them into the weeds

Does anybody know what the back pressure is for the GTT Manifold + Milltek system?
I assume you don't just want 0 back pressure, as there is an optimum value for any engine.

On the topic of the reroute pipe, Roland has this fitted on his 273 bhp car, so it's a purposeful piece of kit.

Cheers,
K.

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by colink (original)

Definitely get a reroute I've got one on my GTT230 and it really does enhance the burble, without being too much of a pain on long runs. Plus, it does reduce back pressure. Stock back pressure is +2.5 PSI, stock with reroute pipe is +1.75 PSI. Works exhaust is +3.75 See here for more.

The only downside for me is that I still haven't found a decent chunky set of tailpipes, although I suppose the stock look is good for surprising Type R drivers as you blow them into the weeds

If the re route pipe is 1.75PSI then that will be better than me looking for a JCW exhaust which is 3.75PSI???

so im taking this as... this will be better for performance and BHP gain or will i get more BHP gain with the JCW zaust and Janspeed maifold??

TBH i dont really want a loud exhaust but i do want to change so i thought my best bet would be the JCW one but if i get more of an improvement from this pipe id rather do that!

any help hear appreciated!

[colink]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yellow_Mini_Scott (original)

If the re route pipe is 1.75PSI then that will be better than me looking for a JCW exhaust which is 3.75PSI???

Oh yes Again, check the Roland's thread (link in my post above) for better explanation - it's all above me really I think lower back pressure means less power loss and better fuel consumption.

I like the re-route pipe because i think it's the best compromise between standard and a full blown aftermarket job. Much as I lust after the Larini system that RedUn and Fishtail had, I'm not sure I could live with it day in, day out. We do a quite a few trips back to Scotland and now, with a baby on board, I'm even more convinced the re-route is the best balance. Maybe we should all hound Roland to make some nice GTT tailpipes The main thing for me (sad tho this is, at least I know you lot will understand) is how much the reroute pipe enhances the zorst pop - it really does sound tasty

[ScottyBoy]

Well im diving in and buying the JCW Zaust now so im giving it ago! illlet you no next week!

[colink]

Tut tut... You'll save a few pennies and grin bigger if you go reroute

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by colink (original)

Tut tut... You'll save a few pennies and grin bigger if you go reroute

Not really loosing out that much

Re-route pipe is close to £100 Inc VAT then postage....

then fitting etc

JCW Zaust costing me £200

so im not loosing out that much

[ScottyBoy]

And ill be fitting that myself! but the re-route im not sure about fitting that as if i cut it and mess the whole thing up ill be buggerd!

[-=cHiLli=-]

didnt someone do a photo diy on this?.......

-=cHiLli=-()

[colink]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yellow_Mini_Scott (original)

And ill be fitting that myself! but the re-route im not sure about fitting that as if i cut it and mess the whole thing up ill be buggerd!

Fair enough - don't think I would have done it myself. Guaranteed to have botched it!

[s_and_m]

Quote: Originally Posted by colink (original)

Maybe we should all hound Roland to make some nice GTT tailpipes

That sounds like a good idea to me. Nice polished tips with the GTT logo stamped on the top of them.

I'd buy that for a dollar (or a little bit more)

S

[roland2003]

Hi , actually we did make a large oval tip as a 'one off' to replace the bud cans. The only reason we didnt produce a batch is because there was no simple and very secure way of fixing it other than welding it on, which is ok but not very DIY friendly...
Best Regards Roland GTT

[colink]

Roland - is it still possible (and not exorbitabtly expensive) to make a GTT replacement can as a one off (or couple off, if others are interested)? I have a mate who is an exhaust fitter so having it welded on wouldn't be too much of a problem.