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Richard22b · Apr 22nd, 2007, 08:49 PM

On Saturday I went up to see Paul at 1320Autos to get my brakes changed and get my car on the rolling road.

We recently undertook a project to fit a Cooper S gearbox to my 52 plate MINI ONE.

We also fitted an Exedy clutch kit.

The car was tested before hand and gave around 95BHP at the wheel which is around 127BHP at the flywheel.

At the weekend we saw the following results:

130.0BHP at 6061.1 Flywheel
119.7lbft at 5047
101.9BHP at 60.61.1 wheel

All in all I'm very pleased with the increase. Thats 40BHP on stock.

We are also going to be fitting a new manifold soon so will see what increases that will give.

YouTube - MINI ONE Rolling Road at 1320Autos

MiniPetrolHead · Apr 23rd, 2007, 02:57 PM

What other performance mods have you done to reach 130bhp?

:: Jon :: · Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:11 PM

sounds good

CC07ERS · Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:39 PM

There are not many Mini 1s with a 6 speed box , its quite a job. Looking forword to the video.

GTT 280 · Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:55 PM

Where?

You stated before hand that the flywheel BHP was 127.
You stated afterwards that the flywheel BHP was 130.

Although an increase of 3 BHP, i'd put this down to temperate conditions.

But still confused as to where the extra 40bhp exists in the figures you provided??

Cheers,
K.

MiniPetrolHead · Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:58 PM

Dito!!???

1320autos · Apr 23rd, 2007, 06:39 PM

In Richards defence he's taking the Mini quoted original BHP figure of 90bhp as a starting point, I presume he never had the One on the dyno in stock form.

On a bog standard One Conv we saw on the dyno 74whp @ 4825rpm, with a superchips it made 96whp at 5910, it actually gained 8whp at 4825 over the stock map.

On various Mini One's with tested we've seen a best of 76whp so in that theory Richard has gained 26whp

Our dyno corrects to din, Richard's first session was with a knackered gearbox and if the gearbox is knackered it wont show the run down losses as the TAT sytem believes you are cheating it.

We have started this week putting a demo 6spd Mini One togeather which we will be trying cams cnc heads and different exhaust manifolds on, we will let you know how we get on and I'm sure its going to be a lot harder coaxing horsepower out of a NA engine.

Minipetrohead how did your friend get on with the cyl head back on the rolling road??

MiniPetrolHead · Apr 23rd, 2007, 08:07 PM

Yeah the car has had its engin convresion, and to say the least its rapid!! the only thing is that the mapping isnt finished yet, its fine all the way up to 5700rpm or so then after that its running lean, it wasnt finished because the rolling road at MiniSpeed broke so he has to go back there to get it sortted out.

Its running 240bhp at the moment but he was told that he should get 250bhp when the mapping is finished. He is currently waiting to get his hands on the face lift model supercharger with the teflon coated blades before he has the remap done, also he has a set of JCW injecters that are going to be fitted soon.

With my mini im umming are arrring about whether to get a light weight fly wheel first of wait and get the head and cam done and then at a later date get the fly wheel done. how much of a difference does the flywheel make to the One and Cooper?

Alex

1320autos · Apr 23rd, 2007, 09:07 PM

Ours made 220whp and 250bhp with the stock ecu and 380 JCW and if anyhing it was a tad rich, we still got more left in there to find hopefully next week.

I was actually asking about his sisters car with the head.

As for the flywhell you wont gain any hp but the engine will rev quicker, I know it doesn't make sense. I would personally go for the cam and head in theory but we will see in the coming weeks what works and what doesn't.

JWF · Apr 23rd, 2007, 09:22 PM

Paul how much is the 6 speed box conversion all parts and fitting + and lsd fitted ?

Richard22b · Apr 24th, 2007, 01:21 AM

Looks like Paul answered all the questions for me. thanks Paul

Richard22b · Apr 29th, 2007, 06:33 PM

Here is the video of my rolling road. Quite loud so turn your speakers down

YouTube - MINI ONE Rolling Road at 1320Autos

Loui · Apr 29th, 2007, 09:13 PM

Cool Vid i want to go an see Paul to get mine on

1320autos · Apr 29th, 2007, 10:26 PM

Cool vid Richard, I think Loui wants to come now even more after seeing the free cup of Tea / Coffee you get at ours.

Loui · Apr 29th, 2007, 10:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Cool vid Richard, I think Loui wants to come now even more after seeing the free cup of Tea / Coffee you get at ours.

Too right LOL

BTW you going to be at himley on the 13th paul? Sorry to hijack the thread

1320autos · Apr 29th, 2007, 10:41 PM

I'm not sure as its a Redline mag doo at Santa Pod, I'll probably make a decision this week, are there a lot of new Mini's??

Loui · Apr 29th, 2007, 10:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

I'm not sure as its a Redline mag doo at Santa Pod, I'll probably make a decision this week, are there a lot of new Mini's??

Normally one of the more popular shows with new minis, if not no worries as i think im going to book in with you for a dyno session

Richard22b · Apr 30th, 2007, 09:03 AM

OI..... Give me my thread back

Loui · Apr 30th, 2007, 07:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard22b (original)

OI..... Give me my thread back

Sowie

Performance_Torque · Jul 27th, 2007, 12:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard22b (original)

On Saturday I went up to see Paul at 1320Autos to get my brakes changed and get my car on the rolling road.

We recently undertook a project to fit a Cooper S gearbox to my 52 plate MINI ONE.

We also fitted an Exedy clutch kit.

The car was tested before hand and gave around 95BHP at the wheel which is around 127BHP at the flywheel.

At the weekend we saw the following results:

130.0BHP at 6061.1 Flywheel
119.7lbft at 5047
101.9BHP at 60.61.1 wheel

All in all I'm very pleased with the increase. Thats 40BHP on stock.

We are also going to be fitting a new manifold soon so will see what increases that will give.

YouTube - MINI ONE Rolling Road at 1320Autos

Hi Richard

Was this with our re-map on your car?

I was actually looking on YouTube and recognised your Mini!!

Apr 22nd, 2007, 08:49 PM	#1
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 526 Offline	My Rolling Road results at 1320Autos On Saturday I went up to see Paul at 1320Autos to get my brakes changed and get my car on the rolling road. We recently undertook a project to fit a Cooper S gearbox to my 52 plate MINI ONE. We also fitted an Exedy clutch kit. The car was tested before hand and gave around 95BHP at the wheel which is around 127BHP at the flywheel. At the weekend we saw the following results: 130.0BHP at 6061.1 Flywheel 119.7lbft at 5047 101.9BHP at 60.61.1 wheel All in all I'm very pleased with the increase. Thats 40BHP on stock. We are also going to be fitting a new manifold soon so will see what increases that will give. YouTube - MINI ONE Rolling Road at 1320Autos Last edited by Richard22b : Apr 29th, 2007 at 06:34 PM.

Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
:: Jon :: what a 5h1t hole My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 15,110 Offline	sounds good EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 2,471 Offline	40bhp increase?? Where? You stated before hand that the flywheel BHP was 127. You stated afterwards that the flywheel BHP was 130. Although an increase of 3 BHP, i'd put this down to temperate conditions. But still confused as to where the extra 40bhp exists in the figures you provided?? Cheers, K. Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing...

Apr 23rd, 2007, 06:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	In Richards defence he's taking the Mini quoted original BHP figure of 90bhp as a starting point, I presume he never had the One on the dyno in stock form. On a bog standard One Conv we saw on the dyno 74whp @ 4825rpm, with a superchips it made 96whp at 5910, it actually gained 8whp at 4825 over the stock map. On various Mini One's with tested we've seen a best of 76whp so in that theory Richard has gained 26whp Our dyno corrects to din, Richard's first session was with a knackered gearbox and if the gearbox is knackered it wont show the run down losses as the TAT sytem believes you are cheating it. We have started this week putting a demo 6spd Mini One togeather which we will be trying cams cnc heads and different exhaust manifolds on, we will let you know how we get on and I'm sure its going to be a lot harder coaxing horsepower out of a NA engine. Minipetrohead how did your friend get on with the cyl head back on the rolling road?? Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Apr 23rd, 2007, 09:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Ours made 220whp and 250bhp with the stock ecu and 380 JCW and if anyhing it was a tad rich, we still got more left in there to find hopefully next week. I was actually asking about his sisters car with the head. As for the flywhell you wont gain any hp but the engine will rev quicker, I know it doesn't make sense. I would personally go for the cam and head in theory but we will see in the coming weeks what works and what doesn't. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

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Apr 23rd, 2007, 02:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
MiniPetrolHead 263bhp / 284.55Nm Torque My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eastbourne E.Sussex Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 670 Offline	What other performance mods have you done to reach 130bhp?

Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 2,721 Offline	There are not many Mini 1s with a 6 speed box , its quite a job. Looking forword to the video.

Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
MiniPetrolHead 263bhp / 284.55Nm Torque My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eastbourne E.Sussex Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 670 Offline	Dito!!???

Apr 23rd, 2007, 08:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
MiniPetrolHead 263bhp / 284.55Nm Torque My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eastbourne E.Sussex Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 670 Offline	Yeah the car has had its engin convresion, and to say the least its rapid!! the only thing is that the mapping isnt finished yet, its fine all the way up to 5700rpm or so then after that its running lean, it wasnt finished because the rolling road at MiniSpeed broke so he has to go back there to get it sortted out. Its running 240bhp at the moment but he was told that he should get 250bhp when the mapping is finished. He is currently waiting to get his hands on the face lift model supercharger with the teflon coated blades before he has the remap done, also he has a set of JCW injecters that are going to be fitted soon. With my mini im umming are arrring about whether to get a light weight fly wheel first of wait and get the head and cam done and then at a later date get the fly wheel done. how much of a difference does the flywheel make to the One and Cooper? Alex

Apr 23rd, 2007, 09:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
JWF MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 1,773 Offline	Paul how much is the 6 speed box conversion all parts and fitting + and lsd fitted ?

Apr 24th, 2007, 01:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 526 Offline	Looks like Paul answered all the questions for me. thanks Paul

Apr 29th, 2007, 06:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 526 Offline	Here is the video of my rolling road. Quite loud so turn your speakers down YouTube - MINI ONE Rolling Road at 1320Autos

Apr 29th, 2007, 09:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Loui 230whp an counting My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mini Addiction Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 3,154 Offline	Cool Vid i want to go an see Paul to get mine on WWW.MINIADDICTION.CO.UK

Apr 29th, 2007, 10:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Cool vid Richard, I think Loui wants to come now even more after seeing the free cup of Tea / Coffee you get at ours. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Apr 29th, 2007, 10:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Loui 230whp an counting My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mini Addiction Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 3,154 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) Cool vid Richard, I think Loui wants to come now even more after seeing the free cup of Tea / Coffee you get at ours. Too right LOL BTW you going to be at himley on the 13th paul? Sorry to hijack the thread WWW.MINIADDICTION.CO.UK

Apr 29th, 2007, 10:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	I'm not sure as its a Redline mag doo at Santa Pod, I'll probably make a decision this week, are there a lot of new Mini's?? Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Apr 29th, 2007, 10:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
Loui 230whp an counting My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mini Addiction Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 3,154 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) I'm not sure as its a Redline mag doo at Santa Pod, I'll probably make a decision this week, are there a lot of new Mini's?? Normally one of the more popular shows with new minis, if not no worries as i think im going to book in with you for a dyno session WWW.MINIADDICTION.CO.UK

Apr 30th, 2007, 09:03 AM	#18 (permalink)
Richard22b Yellow Mini Man My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol (North) Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 526 Offline	OI..... Give me my thread back

Apr 30th, 2007, 07:53 PM	#19 (permalink)
Loui 230whp an counting My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mini Addiction Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 3,154 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Richard22b (original) OI..... Give me my thread back Sowie WWW.MINIADDICTION.CO.UK

Jul 27th, 2007, 12:43 PM	#20 (permalink)
Performance_Torque MINI2 Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Midlands Local Time: 11:05 PM Posts: 77 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Richard22b (original) On Saturday I went up to see Paul at 1320Autos to get my brakes changed and get my car on the rolling road. We recently undertook a project to fit a Cooper S gearbox to my 52 plate MINI ONE. We also fitted an Exedy clutch kit. The car was tested before hand and gave around 95BHP at the wheel which is around 127BHP at the flywheel. At the weekend we saw the following results: 130.0BHP at 6061.1 Flywheel 119.7lbft at 5047 101.9BHP at 60.61.1 wheel All in all I'm very pleased with the increase. Thats 40BHP on stock. We are also going to be fitting a new manifold soon so will see what increases that will give. YouTube - MINI ONE Rolling Road at 1320Autos Hi Richard Was this with our re-map on your car? I was actually looking on YouTube and recognised your Mini!!

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