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vigilante · May 22nd, 2007, 01:28 PM

Afternoon all,

I was wondering if anyone knew what (if any) parts could be taken from the cooper s engine to modify the ONE/Cooper Engine with a positive effect.

I know the gearbox can be used and that the exhaust system can be modified to a one box system and fitted to the ONE/Cooper but can others such as injectors or the head.

Also has anyone done this already?

Nearly forgot, my car is a Jul-2002 MINI ONE and have already fitted an induction kit and get a remap this weekend.

Cheers
Steve

ScottyBoy · May 22nd, 2007, 01:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

I would say that to do the job right, you need to take the calipers off. You definitely don't want to get paint on the cylinders, pads or rotors and you need to use a special paint for high temps.

I had a buddy of mine hand paint his calipers and they looked really bad. I recommend a sprayer to really do the job right and this means you have to spend time prepping the componenet as well (taping off areas that you don't want sprayed).

I think you've just posted on the wrong thread there........

as for info on this one im not sure really... the injectors should fit.

Im not really sure on the rest but it would be interesting and i wonder why people havent thought of this already.

ScottyBoy · May 22nd, 2007, 01:58 PM

Being a bit negative before a true answer i would say that not many parts can be used as the availability of Cooper S parts on Ebay, people would have done this already!

vigilante · May 22nd, 2007, 02:05 PM

I know mate - i'm probably spitballing but Steve at Robertshaw Racing reckoned it was worth a question when I ran it past him. Think I'm just used to the way of tuning classic Mini's if i'm honest; bigger carb and a head off the next model up was always the way to go with an A-series.

NeuroBeaker · May 22nd, 2007, 02:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by vigilante (original)

Think you posted that in the wrong thread Flakey

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyBoy230 (original)

I think you've just posted on the wrong thread there........

Don't worry... I got it covered:

Quote: Originally Posted by ARCrawford (original)
DaFlake got a bit confused and posted in another thread... so here's a helping hand:

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)
I would say that to do the job right, you need to take the calipers off. You definitely don't want to get paint on the cylinders, pads or rotors and you need to use a special paint for high temps.

I had a buddy of mine hand paint his calipers and they looked really bad. I recommend a sprayer to really do the job right and this means you have to spend time prepping the componenet as well (taping off areas that you don't want sprayed).

All the best,
Andrew.

All the best,
Andrew.

ScottyBoy · May 22nd, 2007, 02:08 PM

I would have thought steve would no the answer to that.. ohh well.

I have actually thought about ti myself but never asked TBH i did own a cooper and was thinking about it a while ago!

well if its possible the parts are definatley cheap enough.

vigilante · May 22nd, 2007, 02:09 PM

Cheers Andrew

guess your still not feelin better? haha...get well soon mate

David King · May 22nd, 2007, 02:10 PM

This is a confusing thread!!! Thats all ive got to say!

Where are you getting your remap done vigilante?

vigilante · May 22nd, 2007, 02:12 PM

Steve at Robertshaw is getting it flashed for me mate.

DaFlake · May 22nd, 2007, 02:12 PM

Now how did that happen?

Is it Friday yet?

ScottyBoy · May 22nd, 2007, 02:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by vigilante (original)

Steve at Robertshaw is getting it flashed for me mate.

And Mine....

My ECU is on its way down to him if not already receieved it.

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

Now how did that happen?

Is it Friday yet?

I wish it was, as id be on a flight back home....

Daflake do you have any knowledge on the subject at hand???

David King · May 22nd, 2007, 02:16 PM

Cool, let me know what you think of it, im still undecieded about getting a remap.

Plus trying to explain it to tesco could get abit tiresome!

vigilante · May 22nd, 2007, 02:18 PM

I'll keep you posted Dave

DaFlake · May 22nd, 2007, 02:25 PM

You know, I haven't gotten a Cooper beside my S yet to actually take a look and make any comparisons. I would imagine that the engine is pretty much the same minus the SC, so I would think that quite a bit would fit. The downside is that the body and wiring is different on the S and that could pose a problem for some bits.

I would be willing to be that Rolland or 1320Autos would know....

uncle albert · May 22nd, 2007, 07:47 PM

If you're after S injectors Steve, I've got a set that have only done 11000 miles.

(I couldn't say whether they'd defo fit your One though).

James

vigilante · May 22nd, 2007, 08:33 PM

Cheers James, i'll give you a shout if I can get confirmation

vigilante · May 23rd, 2007, 12:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

I would be willing to be that Rolland or 1320Autos would know....

Thanks dude - hopefully they or the guys at Lohen could shed some light on this mystery

1320autos · May 23rd, 2007, 09:42 PM

The head and cam are the same apart from the exhaust valves

Inlet manifold is different and can be used but it'll only just be a bit better than a Mini One apart from 6-7k where it outperforms the standard Inlet manifold.

Injectors are different

Crank Cooper cast S forged

Con Rods Cooper cast S forged

Pistons Cooper cast S hyper

Blocks S oil squirters for under pistons

Exhaust manifolds the same

Ecu is different

vigilante · May 24th, 2007, 06:58 AM

When you say the injectors are different, is this incompatible different or just bigger and could be used for uprating a ONE/Coop engine?

Cheers
Steve

1320autos · May 24th, 2007, 07:12 AM

The electrical plugs are totally different

May 22nd, 2007, 01:28 PM	#1
vigilante Whats this Datsun? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: durham drift school Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 781 Offline	Cooper S component pickings for MINI One lump. Afternoon all, I was wondering if anyone knew what (if any) parts could be taken from the cooper s engine to modify the ONE/Cooper Engine with a positive effect. I know the gearbox can be used and that the exhaust system can be modified to a one box system and fitted to the ONE/Cooper but can others such as injectors or the head. Also has anyone done this already? Nearly forgot, my car is a Jul-2002 MINI ONE and have already fitted an induction kit and get a remap this weekend. Cheers Steve Mini Mania 08 13th July 08 - Durham - Its mahoosive! North East Mini Club - More Mini Fun in the North East!!

May 22nd, 2007, 02:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
vigilante Whats this Datsun? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: durham drift school Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 781 Offline	I know mate - i'm probably spitballing but Steve at Robertshaw Racing reckoned it was worth a question when I ran it past him. Think I'm just used to the way of tuning classic Mini's if i'm honest; bigger carb and a head off the next model up was always the way to go with an A-series. Mini Mania 08 13th July 08 - Durham - Its mahoosive! North East Mini Club - More Mini Fun in the North East!!

May 22nd, 2007, 02:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
NeuroBeaker Where's my navigator?! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Behind the wheel Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 5,763 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by vigilante (original) Think you posted that in the wrong thread Flakey Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyBoy230 (original) I think you've just posted on the wrong thread there........ Don't worry... I got it covered: Quote: Originally Posted by ARCrawford (original) DaFlake got a bit confused and posted in another thread... so here's a helping hand: Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) I would say that to do the job right, you need to take the calipers off. You definitely don't want to get paint on the cylinders, pads or rotors and you need to use a special paint for high temps. I had a buddy of mine hand paint his calipers and they looked really bad. I recommend a sprayer to really do the job right and this means you have to spend time prepping the componenet as well (taping off areas that you don't want sprayed). All the best, Andrew. All the best, Andrew. * * * * * NeuroBeaker Proud owner of "Zeus" (a 'slightly modified' 2004 Mini ONE). Last edited by NeuroBeaker : May 22nd, 2007 at 02:08 PM. Reason: Added extra quotes

May 22nd, 2007, 02:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
vigilante Whats this Datsun? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: durham drift school Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 781 Offline	Cheers Andrew guess your still not feelin better? haha...get well soon mate Mini Mania 08 13th July 08 - Durham - Its mahoosive! North East Mini Club - More Mini Fun in the North East!!

May 22nd, 2007, 02:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
vigilante Whats this Datsun? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: durham drift school Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 781 Offline	Steve at Robertshaw is getting it flashed for me mate. Mini Mania 08 13th July 08 - Durham - Its mahoosive! North East Mini Club - More Mini Fun in the North East!!

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May 22nd, 2007, 01:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 2,874 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) I would say that to do the job right, you need to take the calipers off. You definitely don't want to get paint on the cylinders, pads or rotors and you need to use a special paint for high temps. I had a buddy of mine hand paint his calipers and they looked really bad. I recommend a sprayer to really do the job right and this means you have to spend time prepping the componenet as well (taping off areas that you don't want sprayed). I think you've just posted on the wrong thread there........ as for info on this one im not sure really... the injectors should fit. Im not really sure on the rest but it would be interesting and i wonder why people havent thought of this already.

May 22nd, 2007, 01:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 2,874 Offline	Being a bit negative before a true answer i would say that not many parts can be used as the availability of Cooper S parts on Ebay, people would have done this already!

May 22nd, 2007, 02:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 2,874 Offline	I would have thought steve would no the answer to that.. ohh well. I have actually thought about ti myself but never asked TBH i did own a cooper and was thinking about it a while ago! well if its possible the parts are definatley cheap enough.

May 22nd, 2007, 02:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
David King Home Owner My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beds Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 763 Offline	This is a confusing thread!!! Thats all ive got to say! Where are you getting your remap done vigilante?

May 22nd, 2007, 02:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 12:48 PM Posts: 10,630 Offline	Now how did that happen? Is it Friday yet? Global Moderator

May 22nd, 2007, 02:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 2,874 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by vigilante (original) Steve at Robertshaw is getting it flashed for me mate. And Mine.... My ECU is on its way down to him if not already receieved it. Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) Now how did that happen? Is it Friday yet? I wish it was, as id be on a flight back home.... Daflake do you have any knowledge on the subject at hand???

May 22nd, 2007, 02:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
David King Home Owner My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beds Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 763 Offline	Cool, let me know what you think of it, im still undecieded about getting a remap. Plus trying to explain it to tesco could get abit tiresome!

May 22nd, 2007, 02:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
vigilante Whats this Datsun? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: durham drift school Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 781 Offline	I'll keep you posted Dave Mini Mania 08 13th July 08 - Durham - Its mahoosive! North East Mini Club - More Mini Fun in the North East!!

May 22nd, 2007, 02:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 12:48 PM Posts: 10,630 Offline	You know, I haven't gotten a Cooper beside my S yet to actually take a look and make any comparisons. I would imagine that the engine is pretty much the same minus the SC, so I would think that quite a bit would fit. The downside is that the body and wiring is different on the S and that could pose a problem for some bits. I would be willing to be that Rolland or 1320Autos would know.... Global Moderator

May 22nd, 2007, 07:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
uncle albert MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefrd/Bath/Cwmbran Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 818 Offline	If you're after S injectors Steve, I've got a set that have only done 11000 miles. (I couldn't say whether they'd defo fit your One though). James

May 22nd, 2007, 08:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
vigilante Whats this Datsun? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: durham drift school Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 781 Offline	Cheers James, i'll give you a shout if I can get confirmation Mini Mania 08 13th July 08 - Durham - Its mahoosive! North East Mini Club - More Mini Fun in the North East!!

May 23rd, 2007, 12:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
vigilante Whats this Datsun? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: durham drift school Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 781 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) I would be willing to be that Rolland or 1320Autos would know.... Thanks dude - hopefully they or the guys at Lohen could shed some light on this mystery Mini Mania 08 13th July 08 - Durham - Its mahoosive! North East Mini Club - More Mini Fun in the North East!!

May 23rd, 2007, 09:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	The head and cam are the same apart from the exhaust valves Inlet manifold is different and can be used but it'll only just be a bit better than a Mini One apart from 6-7k where it outperforms the standard Inlet manifold. Injectors are different Crank Cooper cast S forged Con Rods Cooper cast S forged Pistons Cooper cast S hyper Blocks S oil squirters for under pistons Exhaust manifolds the same Ecu is different Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

May 24th, 2007, 06:58 AM	#19 (permalink)
vigilante Whats this Datsun? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: durham drift school Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 781 Offline	When you say the injectors are different, is this incompatible different or just bigger and could be used for uprating a ONE/Coop engine? Cheers Steve Mini Mania 08 13th July 08 - Durham - Its mahoosive! North East Mini Club - More Mini Fun in the North East!!

May 24th, 2007, 07:12 AM	#20 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 05:48 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	The electrical plugs are totally different Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

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