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zeno · Aug 29th, 2002, 08:04 PM

Hey guys,
Just installed the Rogue Engineering Cold Air Intake and Magnecor 8.5mm wires in my MCS. Wow! It feels smoother just driving around, better throttle response (smoother, quicker), and when you get on the gas, it feels like there's nothing stopping it. Felt a bit like it was choking for air before, but now, it's like I can't push the gas down hard enough to make it even a tiny bit short of breath. And the sound is amazing. Sounds smoother, with more of that wonderful supercharger whine on top of a throatier (it seems) exhaust. Shifting seems much smoother as well, don't know why that is (perhaps air?). Definately recommend both to all S owners.

Links:
Cold Air Intake: http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merc...egory_Code=PER
and
Magnecor Wires (8.5mm): http://www.mossmini.com/cgi-bin/db2w...t?PlateID=5474

Happy motoring!

Zeno

Casey · Aug 29th, 2002, 08:17 PM

Sweet i have both on order - should be here early next week - but i got the 8mm plugs.

minime s · Sep 2nd, 2002, 10:58 PM

How was the install ?

eltel · Sep 3rd, 2002, 01:47 AM

Not sure if this is a concern to those who seek to get this installed, but is there a warranty issue?

Regards, ElTel

zeno · Sep 3rd, 2002, 02:38 PM

Install was very easy and quick. Some holes were drilled slightly off on the heat sheild, but with a little "negotiation", it all went in and fit well. As long as you prep the filter beforehand, it's a 10 minute install. The plug wires are very easy, just right on top of everything and well marked. Smooth and painless.

No idea on warranty, but Magnusson-Moss protects us over here in the states. Unless the modification directly causes the malfunction, the warranty is not "voided" (as people love to say when talking about warranties) for that work. So if the transmission strips some gears after I do this, they have to cover it, because there's no way what I did could have caused that.

Zeno

CSDan · Sep 4th, 2002, 01:25 PM

Dont be so sure about that.
I know, by law they cant void the warrenty, but they can deny you service. I had a wheel bearing failure in my last car and I also had suspension work done. Well, one dealer said to change the suspesion and they would do the work under warranty. I couldn't understand this concept so I went looking for another dealer. Well, I had to drive an hour and a half to find one that would do the work under warranty.
If you want to get into a lengthy court battle, you will probably win, however they might fight it all the way. Usually they figure you would rather pay to fix it(cheaper) then going to court.

Just some stuff I have learned from owning a Honda.
Hey maybe MINI/BMW will be better about it, but I think I will save my pennies and buy the Dinan stuff when its finished--Warranty is good...mkay

Casey · Sep 4th, 2002, 01:47 PM

I've heard from realible sources that Dinan products will not be covered under warrenty from MINI/BMW - that said - Dinan usually has their own type of warrenties etc that they offer with their products - as long as you don't race your MINI(not sure if autox counts or not)

alexcroft · Sep 4th, 2002, 01:52 PM

Post some pics please!

Alex.

Casey · Sep 4th, 2002, 02:01 PM

I fitted the magnacor wires last night - and the rogue cai should be here today - also working on hose wraps for the engine bay - the ones from mossmini.com - not actually replacing them - but they wrap around the existing ones - so it is purely cosmetic etc - but looks good. I'll get pics and a write up after i got it all finished.

CSDan · Sep 4th, 2002, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Casey
I've heard from realible sources that Dinan products will not be covered under warrenty from MINI/BMW - that said - Dinan usually has their own type of warrenties etc that they offer with their products - as long as you don't race your MINI(not sure if autox counts or not)

Really

Well, the dealer I got my S from is an authorized Dinan dealer and my "source" says different. :fingers crossed that I am right: For the good of ALL MINI owners

Casey · Sep 4th, 2002, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSDan

Really
Well, the dealer I got my S from is an authorized Dinan dealer and my "source" says different. :fingers crossed that I am right: For the good of ALL MINI owners

I think the person is making an assumption then - as there isn't even dinan products yet - they have some in development - but it is research only - they have not yet even decided on what they will offer. So there is no way to see if it will even be under warrenty. Assuming your dealer is a Dinan dealer for BMW they prolly made the assumption that they same would be true for the MINI, but sources I've heard from MINIUSA say that it won't happen. BUT like i said before - Dinan warrenties tend to be some of the best for an aftermarket product. So you should be able to get the Dinan warrenty when/if the products come out.

CSDan · Sep 4th, 2002, 03:09 PM

ok, i feel small now

Damn assuming people--i need better contacts

ModoMini · Sep 6th, 2002, 03:31 PM

Get mine tomrrow! Can't wait!

minime s · Sep 6th, 2002, 05:38 PM

let us know.........

AndysMini · Sep 6th, 2002, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zeno
No idea on warranty, but Magnusson-Moss protects us over here in the states. Unless the modification directly causes the malfunction, the warranty is not "voided" (as people love to say when talking about warranties) for that work. So if the transmission strips some gears after I do this, they have to cover it, because there's no way what I did could have caused that.

Zeno

not only can they not void your warranty they have to prove that the modifacation caused the damage. I have never had problems with wattanty work on my vehicles that are modified except from Jeep they are know to void warrantys if your engine compartment has too much dirt in it!

chiph · Sep 6th, 2002, 09:34 PM

Whoever corrected the spelling of "Rogue", thank you! It was driving me nuts!

Chip H.

jlm · Sep 6th, 2002, 09:40 PM

rong thred.

minime s · Sep 6th, 2002, 09:42 PM

leave it to a fellow NY'er

Axel · Sep 7th, 2002, 11:52 AM

Amigos, Magnusson-Moss act protects you, but be prepared for a fight the dealers will come up with any BS possible OK

I dont care cause I got my SHT together

Godd luck amigos!!

ModoMini · Sep 7th, 2002, 12:10 PM

It's in. 5 minute install. Quick trip out to the freeway and have verified 2 1/2psi increase in boost (With a/c on no less) and definite increase in passing torque.
Love the sound! Can hear that Supercharger really winding up now!

Aug 29th, 2002, 08:04 PM	#1
zeno MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Richmond, VA Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 3 Offline	Rogue Engr. CAI + Magnecor Wires Installed Hey guys, Just installed the Rogue Engineering Cold Air Intake and Magnecor 8.5mm wires in my MCS. Wow! It feels smoother just driving around, better throttle response (smoother, quicker), and when you get on the gas, it feels like there's nothing stopping it. Felt a bit like it was choking for air before, but now, it's like I can't push the gas down hard enough to make it even a tiny bit short of breath. And the sound is amazing. Sounds smoother, with more of that wonderful supercharger whine on top of a throatier (it seems) exhaust. Shifting seems much smoother as well, don't know why that is (perhaps air?). Definately recommend both to all S owners. Links: Cold Air Intake: http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merc...egory_Code=PER and Magnecor Wires (8.5mm): http://www.mossmini.com/cgi-bin/db2w...t?PlateID=5474 Happy motoring! Zeno

Sep 2nd, 2002, 10:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
minime s M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 03:45 PM Posts: 631 Offline	How was the install ? 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a

Sep 4th, 2002, 01:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
CSDan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Katonah NY, USA Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 224 Offline	Dont be so sure about that. I know, by law they cant void the warrenty, but they can deny you service. I had a wheel bearing failure in my last car and I also had suspension work done. Well, one dealer said to change the suspesion and they would do the work under warranty. I couldn't understand this concept so I went looking for another dealer. Well, I had to drive an hour and a half to find one that would do the work under warranty. If you want to get into a lengthy court battle, you will probably win, however they might fight it all the way. Usually they figure you would rather pay to fix it(cheaper) then going to court. Just some stuff I have learned from owning a Honda. Hey maybe MINI/BMW will be better about it, but I think I will save my pennies and buy the Dinan stuff when its finished--Warranty is good...mkay Cooper S: Now new and improved with Helix short shifter, Ghetto K&N HAI, Rota Circuit 8's w/ T1'S Proxies/Kosei K1 racing wheels with Falken Azenis(for Auto-X/Trackday), and H-sport springs. UUC rear sway waiting to install

Sep 4th, 2002, 01:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
alexcroft MINI2 Master (Oh Wow!) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North London Local Time: 07:45 PM Posts: 595 Offline	Zeno, Post some pics please! Alex. Black and White Cooper here, soon to be an Electric Blue & White S, with the WORKS!!

Sep 4th, 2002, 02:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
CSDan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Katonah NY, USA Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 224 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Casey I've heard from realible sources that Dinan products will not be covered under warrenty from MINI/BMW - that said - Dinan usually has their own type of warrenties etc that they offer with their products - as long as you don't race your MINI(not sure if autox counts or not) Really Well, the dealer I got my S from is an authorized Dinan dealer and my "source" says different. :fingers crossed that I am right: For the good of ALL MINI owners Cooper S: Now new and improved with Helix short shifter, Ghetto K&N HAI, Rota Circuit 8's w/ T1'S Proxies/Kosei K1 racing wheels with Falken Azenis(for Auto-X/Trackday), and H-sport springs. UUC rear sway waiting to install

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Aug 29th, 2002, 08:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Casey MINI2 co-founder Join Date: Jan 2001 Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 655 Offline	Sweet i have both on order - should be here early next week - but i got the 8mm plugs.

Sep 3rd, 2002, 01:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
eltel MINIstry of Fun Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eastern Suburbs, Mel Local Time: 05:45 AM Posts: 1,566 Offline	Not sure if this is a concern to those who seek to get this installed, but is there a warranty issue? Regards, ElTel

Sep 3rd, 2002, 02:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
zeno MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Richmond, VA Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 3 Offline	Install was very easy and quick. Some holes were drilled slightly off on the heat sheild, but with a little "negotiation", it all went in and fit well. As long as you prep the filter beforehand, it's a 10 minute install. The plug wires are very easy, just right on top of everything and well marked. Smooth and painless. No idea on warranty, but Magnusson-Moss protects us over here in the states. Unless the modification directly causes the malfunction, the warranty is not "voided" (as people love to say when talking about warranties) for that work. So if the transmission strips some gears after I do this, they have to cover it, because there's no way what I did could have caused that. Zeno

Sep 4th, 2002, 01:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Casey MINI2 co-founder Join Date: Jan 2001 Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 655 Offline	I've heard from realible sources that Dinan products will not be covered under warrenty from MINI/BMW - that said - Dinan usually has their own type of warrenties etc that they offer with their products - as long as you don't race your MINI(not sure if autox counts or not)

Sep 4th, 2002, 02:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
Casey MINI2 co-founder Join Date: Jan 2001 Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 655 Offline	I fitted the magnacor wires last night - and the rogue cai should be here today - also working on hose wraps for the engine bay - the ones from mossmini.com - not actually replacing them - but they wrap around the existing ones - so it is purely cosmetic etc - but looks good. I'll get pics and a write up after i got it all finished.

Sep 4th, 2002, 02:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Casey MINI2 co-founder Join Date: Jan 2001 Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 655 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by CSDan Really Well, the dealer I got my S from is an authorized Dinan dealer and my "source" says different. :fingers crossed that I am right: For the good of ALL MINI owners I think the person is making an assumption then - as there isn't even dinan products yet - they have some in development - but it is research only - they have not yet even decided on what they will offer. So there is no way to see if it will even be under warrenty. Assuming your dealer is a Dinan dealer for BMW they prolly made the assumption that they same would be true for the MINI, but sources I've heard from MINIUSA say that it won't happen. BUT like i said before - Dinan warrenties tend to be some of the best for an aftermarket product. So you should be able to get the Dinan warrenty when/if the products come out.

Sep 4th, 2002, 03:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
CSDan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Katonah NY, USA Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 224 Offline	ok, i feel small now Damn assuming people--i need better contacts Cooper S: Now new and improved with Helix short shifter, Ghetto K&N HAI, Rota Circuit 8's w/ T1'S Proxies/Kosei K1 racing wheels with Falken Azenis(for Auto-X/Trackday), and H-sport springs. UUC rear sway waiting to install

Sep 6th, 2002, 03:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
ModoMini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 267 Offline	Rogue CAI Get mine tomrrow! Can't wait! Mark -'04 Cooper S MC40

Sep 6th, 2002, 05:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
minime s M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 03:45 PM Posts: 631 Offline	let us know......... 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a

Sep 6th, 2002, 06:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
AndysMini EXTERMINATE!!! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta Local Time: 03:45 PM Posts: 58 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by zeno No idea on warranty, but Magnusson-Moss protects us over here in the states. Unless the modification directly causes the malfunction, the warranty is not "voided" (as people love to say when talking about warranties) for that work. So if the transmission strips some gears after I do this, they have to cover it, because there's no way what I did could have caused that. Zeno not only can they not void your warranty they have to prove that the modifacation caused the damage. I have never had problems with wattanty work on my vehicles that are modified except from Jeep they are know to void warrantys if your engine compartment has too much dirt in it! Andy http://www.southernjeeps.com/cars/s 2005 MCS

Sep 6th, 2002, 09:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
chiph Spectator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Local Time: 03:45 PM Posts: 1,563 Offline	Whoever corrected the spelling of "Rogue", thank you! It was driving me nuts! Chip H. ex-MINI Cooper S owner and all around good-guy

Sep 6th, 2002, 09:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
jlm MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ny,ny Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 1,072 Offline	rong thred. john

Sep 6th, 2002, 09:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
minime s M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 03:45 PM Posts: 631 Offline	leave it to a fellow NY'er 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a

Sep 7th, 2002, 11:52 AM	#19 (permalink)
Axel MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Jacksonville , FL Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 94 Offline	Amigos, Magnusson-Moss act protects you, but be prepared for a fight the dealers will come up with any BS possible OK I dont care cause I got my SHT together Godd luck amigos!! Formerly Mini Chopo "S"

Sep 7th, 2002, 12:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
ModoMini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale Local Time: 02:45 PM Posts: 267 Offline	It's in. 5 minute install. Quick trip out to the freeway and have verified 2 1/2psi increase in boost (With a/c on no less) and definite increase in passing torque. Love the sound! Can hear that Supercharger really winding up now! Mark -'04 Cooper S MC40

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