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i just bought a 2002 black mini one and i wanted to boost it up to about 140-150bhp , whats the best way of going about this and does anyone have any reccomendations ,cheers

[Paul]

You can get to around 120hp (or slightly more/less) with a chip/bluefin alone. The MINI One is very tunable, but the gearbox/clutch are known to be weak cogs in the wheel, so I wouldn't advise going too OTT (around 130 is just about considered in the "reasonably safe" area judging by posts on here).

Depends on your budget (and factor in insurance in that, as it most likely wont be cheap to insure with performance mods of that kind of percentage). Check out the sponsor directory: www.mini2.com/sponsors/ for a list of nice companies who sell that kind of thing.

Welcome to MINI2.

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thanks paul , i just saw a tuning package from lohen that takes it up to 150bhp but the cost is excessive as new camshafts and gaskets have to be added to deal with the added pressure and heat

[Paul]

Yep, beyond about 130 (the "easy" stuff like chip, exhaust, intake etc) you get into diminishing returns for your money.

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the chip offers 31 bhp and i found an exhaust system that adds 6 bhp to that and a pipercross air intake sysem that adds 12bhp so would it be possible to add that 49bhp to the mini

[MINIAC]

Quote: Originally Posted by give me more (original)

the chip offers 31 bhp and i found an exhaust system that adds 6 bhp to that and a pipercross air intake sysem that adds 12bhp so would it be possible to add that 49bhp to the mini

When it comes to engine mods ... the whole is NOT equal to the sum of it's parts

And no way will an air intake add 12bhp

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i guessed as much , thats why i asked if it would be possible , thanks man

[James]

A bluefin, a cat back exhaust with manifold and a pipercross viper should take you to 130/140 bhp

[Paul Webster]

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...d-project.html

Just a small insight on how hard it is to make horsepower natually aspirated, we tried a cam this week and lost 3-4bhp

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would the existing gaskets and camshafts be able to deal with that? for 130bhp would it not just be better to get the stage 1 lohen kit = (bluefin with map for iridium spark plugs and air filter +air filter and spark plugs) because i know that would be stable.
the only problem i have with this choice is that i want a deeper frequency , louder tone and the filter contributes to this but i need an exhaust

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sorry 1320 i was writing when you sent the reply. i just looked at your projec and i can see the problem with trying to squeeze more from the naturally aspirated engine but i wouldnt wan to modify the engine as im not doing it as a project -i need to be a bit more economical with my money so really im just trying to trim the outsides without making the value obsolete.so far th

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crammy i looked at prices for a cat back and manifold with bluefin and viper kit and it comes to about £950 for 130/140 so i think i might get the lohen package fited which is also 130bhp but costs under £400, mind you i can imagine the sound you would get off a new catback with the viper induction aswell. thanks for the help

[James]

I have the viper and the militek cat back and it does sound nice, however I used to have the cheaper pipercross and it actually sounded better, imo i'd get the cheaper pipercross one as the only difference I noticed between the two was the decrease in sound, there wasn't any noticable performance gains..Also the only thing worth getting in the LO1 package is the bluefin, new spark plugs wont add any increase in performance and the panel filter will also be unlikely to increase performance noticebly.
Imo get the cheaper pipercross induction kit, a bluefin and then maybe a cat-back exhaust if you feel you need it still.

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thats a big help , thanks , i might hold off ont ht exhaust for now because i only have £500 to spend on the car right now

[James]

Yea thats how I did it, I got the bluefin and induction kit first. After that there was a huge increase in performance which kept me entertained for a month or 2, then you will feel the urge to do more lol

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when you say the cheaper pipercross kit dyu mean the £80 one?and also when you added the induction kit did you have to remap the ecu on the bluefin or did you leave the bluefin as standard? and how much bhp would that be in total then with the bluefin and induction?
sorry ,very inquisitive today , and cheers for helping me so far

[MiniPetrolHead]

For the One, i think without going to made with having the cylinder head ported and polished, i think do what i have done on my One i.e. bluefin, cat back exhaust, exhaust manifold, induction kit and spark plugs should get you around the 135bhp mark which in a really nice power to play with in a One! I also have an enlarged throttle body but i wouldnt bother with one of those!

To compare the performance with a 135bhp Mini One like mine, i had a little go with a Fiat Stilo 1.9jdi Multijet Sporting which is 150bhp, and my One was realling it in nicely once i had got into the higher revs where the bluefin kicked in. (just like to say it wasnt dangerous what i did, just a bit of fun that im sure alot of people have once in a while)

Mini ones are lovely cars and really shock alot of people with what they can do!

Hope you have alot of fun with your One and wecome to Mini2!

Alex

[MiniPetrolHead]

Doing things like induction kit, exhaust, manifold, etc you wont need to get a custom map put on only when you do the cylinder head and cam do you need one.

So bluefin will be fine!

(maybe after a while uninstall bluefin then run the car for a few miles then put it back on again once the ecu has learnt about the changes) - only need to do this when the manifold goes on really, its not essential to to this but i found it made a difference.

Alex

[James]

Quote: Originally Posted by give me more (original)

when you say the cheaper pipercross kit dyu mean the £80 one?and also when you added the induction kit did you have to remap the ecu on the bluefin or did you leave the bluefin as standard? and how much bhp would that be in total then with the bluefin and induction?
sorry ,very inquisitive today , and cheers for helping me so far

Yea i mean the £80 one,i've tried both and currently have the £230 one but it really isn't worth the extra money. I had my bluefin before I got the induction kit and didn't change it because Bluefin is just a standard remap that is not customised to what you have on your car. I haven't ever tested my car on rolling road but I would expect bluefin + induction kit to be about 125 bhp but it depends on the car as each car will have a slightly different bhp to start with. Also remember the BHP figure isn't the only figure representing the power. The torque is also a very important figure and you are likely to feel an increase in torque more than an increase in BHP in day to day driving. The bluefin increases the torque a LOT past 4000 rpm compared to the standard map. I don't know if you've seen these Bluefin graphs but they really help to show you how it will improve your car:
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/minionep2.pdf

[barneybear]

well i must say, i have a 2006 mini one, joined mini club in kent,most members are younger than me,but such a nice bunch of friends now,i have got the bug now,i had fitted a play mini zorst first, then i fitted a pipercross, then sent that back for a refund because on 2006 mini the pipercross rubs on engine mounting if you fit it to standard airtake pipe as pipercross shows on instructions,got a k&n filter fitted it, was not happy with that, pipercross sounds better & proforms better than k&n, friend mine gave me a pipercross filter which has a little dent on its silver top, i used the k&N airpipe part of kit, fitted the pipercross filter to it, i have now got it fitted to my mini all snug without rubbing on my engine mounting,got on to lohens , bought a bluefin & wow!! does my mini one move!!!! & yes my MPG 45.3.