[:: Jon ::]

if you start fitting all this you may as well go out and buy the real thing..

[alski]

start with mcs with no aircon, then add front mount intercooler
then swap bonnet and badge with other mini one wanna-be,
they now have an s you have a one,

ps add 15" pepper pot rims to the mix

last visit your local engine wizard for additional 50-100 tri-tec ponies

you must be mad but i like the way your thinking

this i suggest must be the best way to do it cost/insurance/performance wise

[burns863]

Quote: Originally Posted by curbed-them-silly (original)

YES! Indeed I can have the options fitted to a cooper S, but that ship has passed with the arrival of the new Mini which I cannot stand the look of. So if possible I would have no objection to getting a used MCS but it would need to be/have:

Hyper Blue,
White roof, mirrors,
R90 Anthracites,
xenons,
Harmon Kardon sound,
Parktronic,
Sports seat,
3-spoke wheel,
Climate control

AND NOT include:
Automatic,
Body kit of any kind,
leather (thought the finish was a bit like vinyl)
and tasteless chrome bits on the exterior.

Yes I am fussy, but I love my One just wished I could have more power. Oh and at the time my insurance quote for the MCS was £6500 hence not pursuing that option!

Oh and the stealth look is so that people don't know what's hit them at the traffic lights (when ofcourse I try to reach the speed limit as fast as I can...)

I am slightly conf... wait no... very confused as to how your mind works. You wont buy a Cooper S due to high insurance costs, but do you really expect your insurance to be less if you whack a whopping great engine in your ONE? Not only will it have a silly engine in it, it will be highly modified which will push your premium up sky high straight off.

Quote: Originally Posted by curbed-them-silly (original)

Thank you very much everyone. But I have no idea what you mean by having a Cooper S running gear fitted!

I dont mean to be rude... but you are looking at making major mofifications to your ONE, yet you don't know what is meant by S Running gear?

I seriously think you need to sit down and consider what you are looking into. It will costs you thousands to complete a project like this, your insurance will be an extremity and you would need to purchase a second vehicle to use while the ONE was undergoing all of this work. And all for what? To "burn people off the lights" like a chav?

Im sorry if i have caused any offence as I do not mean for my post to be taken in that context. I just cannot see the point? A tuning/mod company with time and money on their hands maybe, but not your individual MINI owner who is unsure of what is meant by the term running gear.

Thank you please.

[Paul Webster]

Sometimes you can insure highly modified vehicles cheaper than u can a normal car.

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Sometimes you can insure highly modified vehicles cheaper than u can a normal car.

Indeed it can be. when I had a quote for a MCS JCW it was going to cost more than when I had a quote for a MCS with the JCW kit fitted (they asked what was in it) and GTT parts. They wanted to know cost of replacement and BHP. That was the same insurance company.

I remember seeing that rear mounted M3 engine MINI. Saw some pictures after it was crashed too. I imagine it would be a bit like the V6 Renault Clio. Lot of fun I bet.

[rentagas]

Dear MINI2,

I've bought a concorde jet engine (well it was cheap) from a scrap yard and I wanted to fit it in my MINI one. I hope my insuramce company don't notice but I've told them I've just put in an extra cigarette lighter. I reckon if I take off the afterburner it will just fit underneath the car. I've bought some extra large wheels so it still touches the ground. Do you think I'll need a bigger tank? will it run on normal petrol or will I need optimax? What does the ECU do anyway?
My budget is £500 by the way.

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by curbed-them-silly (original)

Yes I am fussy, but I love my One just wished I could have more power. Oh and at the time my insurance quote for the MCS was £6500 hence not pursuing that option!

That line from you says it all..... if you cant afford £6500 on insurance then how can you afford close to or more than that for a transplant engine and then insurance costs! ........

Burns863 said it all really.

[burns863]

Quote: Originally Posted by rentagas (original)

Dear MINI2,

I've bought a concorde jet engine (well it was cheap) from a scrap yard and I wanted to fit it in my MINI one. I hope my insuramce company don't notice but I've told them I've just put in an extra cigarette lighter. I reckon if I take off the afterburner it will just fit underneath the car. I've bought some extra large wheels so it still touches the ground. Do you think I'll need a bigger tank? will it run on normal petrol or will I need optimax? What does the ECU do anyway?
My budget is £500 by the way.

LOL. Solid gold you might say. I actually laughed out loud when I read that

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

Indeed it can be. when I had a quote for a MCS JCW it was going to cost more than when I had a quote for a MCS with the JCW kit fitted (they asked what was in it) and GTT parts. They wanted to know cost of replacement and BHP. That was the same insurance company.

I remember seeing that rear mounted M3 engine MINI. Saw some pictures after it was crashed too. I imagine it would be a bit like the V6 Renault Clio. Lot of fun I bet.

This is a little bit more advanced than just the JCW kit. This lad wants to put a 3.2L Audi block (or the likes) under the bonnet. In addition to this, if an MCS quote was £6500 it sounds to me like he is young, and the chances of getting insured for any sort of reasobable price on a highly modded vehicle are nil.

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyBoy230 (original)

That line from you says it all..... if you cant afford £6500 on insurance then how can you afford close to or more than that for a transplant engine and then insurance costs! ........

Burns863 said it all really.

Exactly Scotty. Someone else here who has his head screwed on

[dalboyne]

Wow - is it April 1st again already? That year went by quickly....

[Paul Webster]

I cant believe that most of you wish to put someone down for having some imagination or wanting the looks of a Mini but with a better driveline / more horsepower.

When I was young ( a long time ago ) I use to dream off big V8's and nitrous in 90 inch wheelbase 50s Ford Pops and there was no way I could afford what I wanted nor could most of my drag racing friends at the time.

Now 20 yrs on some of them are living there dream and probaly have 100k in their cars, not from being rich but through hardwork and a goal in life.

I'm glad to say that I've made a lot of friends through my obsession / hobby and it wouldn't surprise me to line up one day against curbed-them-silly 800hp twin turbo V6 4wd Mini.

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

I cant believe that most of you wish to put someone down for having some imagination or wanting the looks of a Mini but with a better driveline / more horsepower.

When I was young ( a long time ago ) I use to dream off big V8's and nitrous in 90 inch wheelbase 50s Ford Pops and there was no way I could afford what I wanted nor could most of my drag racing friends at the time.

Now 20 yrs on some of them are living there dream and probaly have 100k in their cars, not from being rich but through hardwork and a goal in life.

I'm glad to say that I've made a lot of friends through my obsession / hobby and it wouldn't surprise me to line up one day against curbed-them-silly 800hp twin turbo V6 4wd Mini.

My dream MINI would be one with an Audi RS8 V8 engine in the back with 4wd, but stock on the outside except for the wide body kit that would be needed to cover the 9" wide wheels

[MINIMANIAUK]

We can all dream especially when young and enthusiastic,the realities make the such ideas impractical and mostly unaffordable- however the best solution I could see would be to keep the existing engine,and reduce as much weight as possible, this has little or no impact insurance wise,at the extreme end of weight saving the car would be around 800kg and still look stock from the outside,now add a bit more power (check with insurance company ) say 150 bhp and concentrate on the handling - it may not sound as good as a engine change project ,but in real terms would be a very fast ,entertaining car,and make a lot of larger engined cars look silly, the mini has a long tradition of this any money left over (wishful thinking)put towards trackday driving lessons and learn to get the full benefit from the car,
power for powers sake is pointless , a lightweight agile mini one is what I would suggest,and a large garage to keep all the bits removed from the car!!

[Meeerrrk]

by the way running gear also includes suspension and brakes.

its slightly worrying that after 2 pages of talk about big engine conversions, people havent talked of suspension and brake upgrades; hence my comments on the cooper s RUNNING GEAR.

Ive seen it before; i had a seat ibiza cupra 20vT when they came out, i tuned it to just shy of 260bhp which made for a quick fwd car (13.6 standing quarters in full road trim) BUT i also added big brembo stoppers and uprated suspension. Many others after that followed with basically the same engine set up but very few upgraded the brakes, its very worrying stuff!!

[Mike Edwards]

I did. But no one was interested in reading about something so boring...

[lee_uk]

and what about when you come to sell it?

[curbed-them-silly]

I feel bruised and battered by some comments, but they were really a slap in the face-wake up to reality thing, my imagination did run wild and I think now, i'll just save up and purchase a faster car in a couple of years time.

Thanks for all your comments.

[Bhozar]

It pops up every now and again, but the most likely candidate for an engine swap is probably the Dodge Neon SRT-4 engine. Its similar to the existing duratec engine. Its a 2.4L and has been dynoes from the factory at 248whp

No one has done it yet as far as I am aware. Only engine swap I have heard about was the RWD rear mounted M3 engine.

[Loui]

TBH with enough money anything is possible but is it always practical an cost effective.

Bhozar seen a front engined m3 mini before too

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Loui (original)

TBH with enough money anything is possible but is it always practical an cost effective.

Bhozar seen a front engined m3 mini before too

Any vids or pics? I would love to see how thats been done. doesnt seem like the front of the MINI would be big enough to fit it in without some major reworking to lengthen it.

[PmP]

There was a front engined Mini with 3.2 litre M3 engine in one of the early GO-Mini Magazines. Was a rather big reengineering job though, and it was rear wheel drive.

Have seen a 2 litre pinto engine in the front of a Mini that was being used for rallycross. Though the guy had the air intake were the headligh should have been.