[curbed-them-silly]

As you all know, I am looking for a stealth One, and looking at the Lohen conversions, I don't think 150BHP is enough. So is it possible to fix another engine into the Mini? What are your thoughts?

[Paul]

You've got to consider your goals, and why you want to do what you want to do.

A "stealth One" would not be so any more if you tried to get a bigger/different engine in. plus it would cost HUGE amounts of money and require a great deal of modification (plus you'd be one of the first, so help will be limited and costs inflated).

You can, if you're mad enough, put an M3 engine in a MINI, but it looks far from stealthy with the body mods. You'd most likely be better off with an S, and tuning that up.

[curbed-them-silly]

I picked my options list very wisely, and it would be very hard to find a cooper s with the same options I had fitted at the dealer, hence the reason for throwing that idea out of the window. An M3 engine I hear you say? Has it been done before? If not, why that one in particular?

[DaFlake]

Sticking a 3 liter engine into that engine bay is going to be very hard without making major changes to your body and firewall. Even with the MINI engine on the S there is not much room to put anything else.

Sorry mate, but with what you are trying to do I don't think you are going to get with out major changes. As Paul said, you might as well buy an S.

[minigolf]

Who says the engine has to go in the front.

[Paul]

M3 MINI: http://www.mini2.com/2002/04/22/team...rt-and-images/

But I don't get it at all I can't think of any options you can get on a Cooper you can't with an S, and the cost would go through the roof, and the concept of stealth out the window.

[FergusM]

Quote: Originally Posted by curbed-them-silly (original)

I picked my options list very wisely, and it would be very hard to find a cooper s with the same options I had fitted at the dealer, hence the reason for throwing that idea out of the window. An M3 engine I hear you say? Has it been done before? If not, why that one in particular?

So what options have you got that would be hard to find on a Cooper S ??... I'm curious...

[DaFlake]

My question is...

Why stealth? Who are you hiding it from?

[minicabrio]

If you wanted to keep the normal look, consider getting a small turbo unit fitted to your current car, these can be shoe horned into the engine bay with the battery being relocated to the boot.

You should then look at a gearbox/clutch upgrade to handle the extra power.

I wouldn't want to ram a big engine in.... imaging the turn-in with all that weight up front!

...as with anything though, by the time you have done all that you could have just bought the S.

[1320autos]

I love the stealth / sleeper look and I really hate having to put a roll cage in the One but unfortunatley to go quicker than a 12.00 elapsed time I have to have a cage and 5 point harness.

Anything is possible it does have two major factors in the way though, time and money.

With the tritec engine making upto 500whp in turbo form I dont see the point at the moment off transfering an engine in unless you want 4wd or rwd.

[curbed-them-silly]

YES! Indeed I can have the options fitted to a cooper S, but that ship has passed with the arrival of the new Mini which I cannot stand the look of. So if possible I would have no objection to getting a used MCS but it would need to be/have:

Hyper Blue,
White roof, mirrors,
R90 Anthracites,
xenons,
Harmon Kardon sound,
Parktronic,
Sports seat,
3-spoke wheel,
Climate control

AND NOT include:
Automatic,
Body kit of any kind,
leather (thought the finish was a bit like vinyl)
and tasteless chrome bits on the exterior.

Yes I am fussy, but I love my One just wished I could have more power. Oh and at the time my insurance quote for the MCS was £6500 hence not pursuing that option!

Oh and the stealth look is so that people don't know what's hit them at the traffic lights (when ofcourse I try to reach the speed limit as fast as I can...)

[minicabrio]

Actually, all you need is a HyperBlue/White MCS with Chili Pack, Auto air, PDC and HK.

The R90s you can swap from your current car.

[s33gav]

you want new spark plugs, apparently they make you go faster..

[alski]

Anything is possible it does have two major factors in the way though, time and money.

With the tritec engine making upto 500whp in turbo form I dont see the point at the moment off transfering an engine in unless you want 4wd or rwd.[/quote]


getrag 4wd idea was floated a while back, i guess with original engine,
would love a 4wd 300+bhp mini evo eater

[Ant FR]

Best engine would be the 1.8 T Vag unit. Reliable, bullet proof, and bloody quick when played with. Think it would still work out cheaper than turboing the 1.6 tritec lump.

[:: Jon ::]

if you fit another engine say from a type R then your insurance costs would be far greater than that of a MCS

[Mike Edwards]

Look for an MCS being broken and buy the engine/gearbox out of that.

Relocate the battery to the boot and fit a custom made exhaust so you can keep the side exit look.

Use a front mount chargecooler so you don't need to change the bonnet.

Visit GTT et al to achieve 250+bhp.

Upgrade the brakes and suspension to suit at the same time of course.

Much, much easier than changing to a different make of powerplant, but still not trivial.

[Meeerrrk]

Quote: Originally Posted by curbed-them-silly (original)

YES! Indeed I can have the options fitted to a cooper S, but that ship has passed with the arrival of the new Mini which I cannot stand the look of. So if possible I would have no objection to getting a used MCS but it would need to be/have:

Hyper Blue,
White roof, mirrors,
R90 Anthracites,
xenons,
Harmon Kardon sound,
Parktronic,
Sports seat,
3-spoke wheel,
Climate control

AND NOT include:
Automatic,
Body kit of any kind,
leather (thought the finish was a bit like vinyl)
and tasteless chrome bits on the exterior.

Yes I am fussy, but I love my One just wished I could have more power. Oh and at the time my insurance quote for the MCS was £6500 hence not pursuing that option!

Oh and the stealth look is so that people don't know what's hit them at the traffic lights (when ofcourse I try to reach the speed limit as fast as I can...)

Why not have Cooper S running gear fitted to your mini one. and have that engine tuned to circa 260bhp? the cost of that would be a fraction of a mad engine transplant, and far more reliable. AND if it did ever go wrong your choice of repairer would be far greater. It would be your perfect mini

[curbed-them-silly]

Quote: Originally Posted by Meeerrrk (original)

Why not have Cooper S running gear fitted to your mini one. and have that engine tuned to circa 260bhp? the cost of that would be a fraction of a mad engine transplant, and far more reliable. AND if it did ever go wrong your choice of repairer would be far greater. It would be your perfect mini

Thank you very much everyone. But I have no idea what you mean by having a Cooper S running gear fitted!

[minicabrio]

Quote: Originally Posted by curbed-them-silly (original)

Thank you very much everyone. But I have no idea what you mean by having a Cooper S running gear fitted!

Basically you have the running gear (ie, engine, gearbox, clutch, flywheel, ECU etc etc etc) transplanted into your Cooper.

You'd also need engine mounts, driveshafts etc etc....