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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 03:03 PM   #1
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Arrow GTT - new clutch etc...

...just had the new Excedy clutch and lightweight flywheel installed. In addition to the Quaiffe ATB Differential and some larger injectors.

The car is excellent - the clutch is a real gem to operate and it puts you in touch with the car moreso that the OEM setup. Changing gear is less effort now as the pedal press is reduced, and the biting point improved.

The injectors are having a great impact on over all performance, hand in hand with a new T-Map sensor. The JCW 380cc injectors are just too 'lean'. 450cc suits this car better.

The boost gauge is a great addition too, interesting to see when the car is providing boost and when it is not.

Can't wait to enjoy the Quiaffe diff under definate cornering.

The 17" O.Z. wheels are soooo much nicer to drive with than the 18" Dare X4's and the car now sits lower than before. Feels more secure and certain.

All together a much sturdier beast. Approx bhp, around 270+bhp i'd say.

GTT live up to my expectations once again, and they really do ensure you end up with a perfect example of engineering. Attention to detail, quality, and application is superb. Top marks guys!!

I just need to find some cheeky 911 turbo now to play with.....

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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 06:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How the hell am I supposed to catch up with you if you keep adding more & more bits?

Sounds like you've got a right MCS there now!!

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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 08:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Instead of finding a 911 to play with come and play with us at Stratford upon Avon this weekend

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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 08:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)
Instead of finding a 911 to play with come and play with us at Stratford upon Avon this weekend


just out of interest whats going on at Stratford upon Avon..???

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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 08:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Karl, will you stop it!? Every time the wife sees that I'm reading what you've done now she tries to hide my wallet!

Saving up for the quaiffe when the clutch goes is one of my priorities I have to say...
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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 09:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Its the British Mini Showdown at Shakespeare County Raceway, Long Marston nr Stratford upon Avon.

You can turn up and watch or take your car down the 1/4mile and get a ticket, from this information and the weight of your vehicle with you in it you can see what horsepower is making in the real world.

The best bit of all is that there will be like minded Mini owners there new and old who have horsepower running through their veins.

Some of the old Minis are truly amazing in build quality, I also have it on good authority that Stuart Meads Mini(old)seems more powerful (by the butt dyno) than ever and he reckons mid 9s are on the cards.

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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 09:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Its the British Mini Showdown at Shakespeare County Raceway, Long Marston nr Stratford upon Avon.

You can turn up and watch or take your car down the 1/4mile and get a ticket, from this information and the weight of your vehicle with you in it you can see what horsepower is making in the real world.

The best bit of all is that there will be like minded Mini owners there new and old who have horsepower running through their veins.

Some of the old Minis are truly amazing in build quality, I also have it on good authority that Stuart Meads Mini(old)seems more powerful (by the butt dyno) than ever and he reckons mid 9s are on the cards.

Sounds good, i may pop over if i get time.

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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 10:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 260 (original)
...just had the new Excedy clutch and lightweight flywheel installed. In addition to the Quaiffe ATB Differential and some larger injectors.

The car is excellent - the clutch is a real gem to operate and it puts you in touch with the car moreso that the OEM setup. Changing gear is less effort now as the pedal press is reduced, and the biting point improved.

The injectors are having a great impact on over all performance, hand in hand with a new T-Map sensor. The JCW 380cc injectors are just too 'lean'. 450cc suits this car better.

The boost gauge is a great addition too, interesting to see when the car is providing boost and when it is not.

Can't wait to enjoy the Quiaffe diff under definate cornering.

The 17" O.Z. wheels are soooo much nicer to drive with than the 18" Dare X4's and the car now sits lower than before. Feels more secure and certain.

All together a much sturdier beast. Approx bhp, around 270+bhp i'd say.

GTT live up to my expectations once again, and they really do ensure you end up with a perfect example of engineering. Attention to detail, quality, and application is superb. Top marks guys!!

I just need to find some cheeky 911 turbo now to play with.....

Cheers,
K.

450cc injectors they seem massive for a 260bhp sure there not actually putting the fire out for one of a better descriptions, have you had it RR`d with the fueling, timing etc all checked?

Paul that car of Stuart meads is pretty darn crazy

BTW good luck for the weekend but ill try an speak to you before hand
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Old Jul 11th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Runs in the family Jeff his elder brother owns the Pop that I crew on 8.3 @164

The luck I would like this weekend is no rain and a NPB would be nice

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Old Jul 12th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Loui (original)
450cc injectors they seem massive for a 260bhp sure there not actually putting the fire out for one of a better descriptions, have you had it RR`d with the fueling, timing etc all checked?

Paul that car of Stuart meads is pretty darn crazy

BTW good luck for the weekend but ill try an speak to you before hand

Don't you worry, these injectors suit the car just fine

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Old Jul 12th, 2007, 08:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Karls car, our cars and nearly every other car we work on, are designed for situatuations of light,med or full throttle, high or low speed cruise ,in traffic driving , braking, cornering, or any combination of the above. In other words the situations that will arise on a race track or any types of road. Combine this with good starting ,reliability and good looks too ,and thats what GTT Minis are about. This is very different to building a car optimised for drag racing, at WOT for a few seconds . Each to his own, and if drag racing is your goal then 1320's are your man . Theres an art to getting good drag times and a lot of the tricks/skills /knowledge has nothing to do with straight line acceleration engine capability . If you want a fast road car thats also excellent for track days ..... come to us.
As an example to get our GTT300T to deliver good power at WOT on high boost was easy... but perfect part throttle cruising, light acceleration etc....?.- now that took alot more work..
- Our Mini is faster than Porsches, Lotus's etc on the straights or corners.
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Old Jul 12th, 2007, 11:34 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Roland, do you think these bigger injectors are a good idea? Also, slightly off topic but related to your post, any idea on the cost of this 300T yet?
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Arrow Quality speaks for itself...

...indeed. Roland has provided an immense amount of skill and time into the GTT products that is clearly evident when you see them off the car and on. The combining of these products, each with their own purpose but without compromise, really generates a superb vehicle. It's not just a case of how quick 0-60 (although this is damn, damn fast!!!!) it's more about providing a very robust all-conditions car with all aspects of mechanics attended to - i.e. Engine, Brakes, Chassis, Wheels, Suspension, the lot. The car i drive now really feels invincible and I just can't stop laughing at how incredible it is. I've not seen one other car on the road that comes close to this quality, in such a bespoke way.

Thumbs up for GTT i say.

...I don't think i would have spent the £1000's i have if i was not impressed with their quality. I think this says it all.

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Old Jul 12th, 2007, 12:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Thanks guys.
Gav....I run 550cc injectors in mine.
The new 450cc injectors we stock, are fantastic. With a GTT head and cam (not to mention the numerous other parts),these perform much better than the smaller JCW injectors. Much torquier for one thing, no flat spots & no pinking at the limits, allowing a bit more advance. The new GTT adjustable FPR will allow fine tuning for those who anticipate other changes to their car spec later on.
Fuel consumpsion......? ...Karl has reported it's better with these injectors than the JCW's.
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Old Jul 13th, 2007, 06:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)
Karls car, our cars and nearly every other car we work on, are designed for situatuations of light,med or full throttle, high or low speed cruise ,in traffic driving , braking, cornering, or any combination of the above. In other words the situations that will arise on a race track or any types of road. Combine this with good starting ,reliability and good looks too ,and thats what GTT Minis are about. This is very different to building a car optimised for drag racing, at WOT for a few seconds . Each to his own, and if drag racing is your goal then 1320's are your man . Theres an art to getting good drag times and a lot of the tricks/skills /knowledge has nothing to do with straight line acceleration engine capability . If you want a fast road car thats also excellent for track days ..... come to us.
As an example to get our GTT300T to deliver good power at WOT on high boost was easy... but perfect part throttle cruising, light acceleration etc....?.- now that took alot more work..
- Our Mini is faster than Porsches, Lotus's etc on the straights or corners.
Best Regards Roland GTT

Wow thanks for that Roland I didn't realised that everyone thinks that's all we do is drag race. I will have to re-look at our marketing and advertising over the coming weeks.

But what a compliment to think that someone of your status thinks that our engine is built just for drag racing when in fact its just a street engine with a head ex manifold and a 15% pulley, best of all nearly 200ft lb between 3000-6000

The drag racing side of things is just to show customers that the horsepower / trq which we show on the dyno actually is reality in the real world.

As for the tuning for going round bends looking for the finish line Chris tuned / mapped the car which came in 3rd in the Time Attack 1st rnd at Donington Park with a 1:15.664 this was nearly a full secound in front of Simon Norris 900hp Evo 9. at Round 2 at Silverstone he came in 3rd again and run a 1:01.739 .304 of the leader.

Our next challange for the Mini is to make it handle / stop for going round bends as well as 10sec 1/4 miles, if we could get it to acheive 30mpg that would be the icing on the cake

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Old Jul 13th, 2007, 08:19 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i get a bit fed up with so many threads turning into a 1320 drag racing thread. But since you have I'll continue.....
.I think its wrong to try to give people the impression that a quarter mile time can be used to calculate power. . The grip or lack of grip off the line makes a huge difference to the time .
You and I know that a realy good drag racer (eg you) will run 1.5 seconds quicker in a mildly modded MCS than a complete beginner. Even I can run 1 second quicker than most complete beginners.
Guys here are ten things that make one road car/driver quicker than the next ,that are nothing to do with the engine :-
-shallow staging
-'grip' or similar soaked into your tyres
-tyre type/compound
-launch control
-full throttle gear change's
-fuel type
-vehicle weight (or lack of)
-very low tyre pressures in the front
-very high pressures in the rear
-pro driver
-suspension setup
For further discussion on this please lets post on the Drag Racing Q & A thread. (the one I have not clouded).
Oh and I made parts of the suspension and gearbox for Penske that won the Indy 500 many a time,......
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ET is irrelevant its MPH which indicates a vehicles hp, this is more so in FWD racing or limited width slick / street tyre classes.

But I'll carry on this discussion under the Drag Racing thread, I dont mind if you go off tracks in that thread

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Hi Guys,Interestingly weve just finished another car with a 'similar 'engine spec to Karls. One difference is at present its got the JCW manifold & 'cat back' on.....Its surprising how much that holds it back above 5500rpm. There is a reason for not changing these items now though , its coming back in in a couple of months for GTT300T conversion. Obviously the manifold will go then and a Miltek cat back will be used. We too were very pleased with the Exedy we fitted to Karls. Prior to that our preference was Fidenza/helix........but tbh when mine goes (hopefully no time soon) I will fit Exedy in mine.
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Is it the JCW manifold, JCW cat back, or both thats holding it back? As you know, I have the JCW catback (older type without the kinik) but your manifold.
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