[ScottyBoy]

I read this thread when it first got put up, just read it again and people are jumping in (like me now) for no reason.....

Quote: Originally Posted by JDinho (original)

Why the dig?
You see Roland on here all the time, chatting to prospective, current and former customers.
Hardly his fault that the chap who sold the intercooler on didn't include all the bits, neither can you hardly fault his commercial decision to stock one plate per intercooler.

As far as i can read no one is having a dig, Ant had a problem a put a thread up to find a solution, i do agree that it would have been easier to just ring roland but theres nothing wrong with putting up this thread, in fact its helped me, if i was to buy the intercooler from the same member as i was going to that ant did then id have the same problem.
But now i will no to ask first if the part is the before i do buy a 2nd hand GTT I/C....... (if i do)

Quote: Originally Posted by Cheech (original)

If you buy a new OR used GRS intercooler you get proper customer service.

Whats wrong with any of the service that Roland has offered hear.....????? If you owned a company would you make extra parts for when the original customer sells the parts on but not everything is there so he needs extra parts so he can sell it??? 1 per I/C is all id make.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 (original)

Interesting question not answered here is why on earth a GRS intercooler would void the warranty on another tuning companies work? Its a non moving part that replaces the OEM part but has no major technical differences after all.
Any reasonable explanation why this should be so?

Very fair question with a resonable answer below..

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Thanks John Dihno As for Ant or Cheech read on:-
1) Why should I list every small component on our website thats included with every part?
There is no need ,probably confuses people and nobody else does.
2) I havnt sold this intercooler, somebody else has, and your trying to make it out somehow to be my fault that THEY havnt included everything! (ok they didnt know, but your transaction has nothing to do with us!)
3) Not even a thanks from Ant for explaining why hes got a problem, just a thread that wasnt necessary,just an email would get the answers required..
4) You buy & fit a GRS or Alta or whatever intercooler to an already modified MCS and their going to warranty your engine if it goes bang ? - I dont think so.
-You 2 guys are cheesing me off today.
GTT Warranty....Bear in mind we are not supplying /fitting/modding any internals in the engine. We ensure the car is running/fuelling/boosting etc correctly when it goes out. If you then change something we then have no control ,The parts of the GTT conversion and the labour is always covered , (if supplied & fitted by us) its this 'extra' warranty that 'could' become voided /part voided if fundamental changes are made afterwards.
I think that is very fair and certainly more than most would ever offer.
Roland GTT

I completey agree with you on this warranty Roland very fair.

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 (original)

As to the warranty question - hmm, not sure I agree with the cut and dried answer given. A reputable compay (which I know GTT is) I would think would analys any issue that appears later, and tell a customer why their warranty had been invalidated by the fitting of a GRS intercooler, not just say 'its no longer covered' if they fit someone elses intercooler. Saying its not warrantied full stop if you fit someone elses I/C to me sounds like 'use us or else' approach which is something I would personally be very surprised at, having dealt personally many times with Roland.

I do agree with you hear tho but i guess this thread is over lol

[JDinho]

[quote=ScottyBoy230;3107534]I read this thread when it first got put up, just read it again and people are jumping in (like me now) for no reason.....QUOTE]

Now edited my earlier post, I have no problem with AntFR who has acted reasonably

[DaFlake]

I think that it is cleared now. Cheech clearly spun this one up for no reason. It is not hard to misinterpert something when a post like that gets made against you.

[roland2003]

I nthink I'll go and get a chinese takeaway tonight, then watch Eastenders followed by the Bill...

[Ant FR]

Don't want to wind you up, but its tuesday,


Bill ain't on..........

[roland2003]

Oh No! what about ' Last Man Standing' whens that on? I like that.

[GARY GP]

bugger missed all the action! lets start again fight- fight- fight...

[roland2003]

Gary Did you ever get your big SC conversion done I thought you were having it done?

[Bhozar]

I just saw SpiderX is a bit fed up with his bigger SC conversion car and is thinking of selling it, or reverting back to the stock SC. He needs ot spend another $3000 to get it sorted.

[roland2003]

Any half developed conversion is realy bad news for any consumer that buys it. To market it, its got to be 100% right , soak tested, tested beyond its spec etc etc. ...Its not easy....
Anyway were going off topic .
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[GARY GP]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Gary Did you ever get your big SC conversion done I thought you were having it done?

Not at the moment Roland starting to build my second self build home... it takes too much of my time what with work and stuff .. i think revolution mini works look to be very good and i will be watching how Adam gets on at minimania. and if i wanted to go and have some real fun i will bring out my tricked out gxr1000 its good for 190mph did you know ... on a closed course of course..

[GARY GP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

I just saw SpiderX is a bit fed up with his bigger SC conversion car and is thinking of selling it, or reverting back to the stock SC. He needs ot spend another $3000 to get it sorted.

sorry we don't know what your on about spider x is more than happy with things the m62 is soon to be set out into differant kit forms... were did you get your info from ?

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by 300GP (original)

sorry we don't know what your on about spider x is more than happy with things the m62 is soon to be set out into differant kit forms... were did you get your info from ?

From his post after he took his car to LDG. Well, to say he isnt happy with the car isnt exactly right, but he did say he might sell it rather than pay the extra cash to get it where he wanted with the m62 kit. Guess you missed the post on NAM. I'll find the link out for you.

[GARY GP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

From his post after he took his car to LDG. Well, to say he isnt happy with the car isnt exactly right, but he did say he might sell it rather than pay the extra cash to get it where he wanted with the m62 kit. Guess you missed the post on NAM. I'll find the link out for you.

Looks like spider x just ran out of inspiration and money. he has also just had a new baby a few months ago we all know what sort of financial impact that has... also his clutch slipping! its just nice to see some people trying to make our mini better! and thanks for that bhozar...

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by 300GP (original)

Looks like spider x just ran out of inspiration and money. he has also just had a new baby a few months ago we all know what sort of financial impact that has... also his clutch slipping! its just nice to see some people trying to make our mini better! and thanks for that bhozar...

No problem. I'm all for more tuners doing more stuff. The greater the competition between them, the more choices we have as consumers and the better the final products will be.

[Richard Crofts]

Not really on topic but similar...

This is not a dig at GTT or any other manufacturer but an observation and word of warning and advice to GTT converted cars.

A friend of mine has the GTT IC and also the GTT air box as part of his GTT kit. The airbox shield is hitting the IC and causing it to get damaged, there is concern that this will eventually cause the IC to hole and therefore stop working.

Now we believe this not to be because of GTT but because the engine supports/mounts on the car are allowing too much movement under heavy load and so the two items collide. I'd suggest that GTT owner just check this area of possible damage out and if its happening have a quiet word with roland to check its fitted right and then consider getting either tougher engine mounts or an engine stabaliser (shock absorber) to reduce flex and stop the rubbing.

Good luck and hope no-one else finds thiers is doing this...the car is an 05

[DaFlake]

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts (original)

Not really on topic but similar...

This is not a dig at GTT or any other manufacturer but an observation and word of warning and advice to GTT converted cars.

A friend of mine has the GTT IC and also the GTT air box as part of his GTT kit. The airbox shield is hitting the IC and causing it to get damaged, there is concern that this will eventually cause the IC to hole and therefore stop working.

Now we believe this not to be because of GTT but because the engine supports/mounts on the car are allowing too much movement under heavy load and so the two items collide. I'd suggest that GTT owner just check this area of possible damage out and if its happening have a quiet word with roland to check its fitted right and then consider getting either tougher engine mounts or an engine stabaliser (shock absorber) to reduce flex and stop the rubbing.

Good luck and hope no-one else finds thiers is doing this...the car is an 05

Not good.... I bet an Engine Damper would do the job.

http://www.motoringtech.com/EngineDamper_v5.pdf

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

Not good.... I bet an Engine Damper would do the job.

http://www.motoringtech.com/EngineDamper_v5.pdf

The friend in questin just bought a TXWerks one after seeing one fitted on mine a couple of weeks ago.

[DaFlake]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

The friend in questin just bought a TXWerks one after seeing one fitted on mine a couple of weeks ago.

Either or, both are pretty good and provide some service.