[Paul Webster]

Thanks for sharing Jan, so are the modified ones like the airflow figures

[MINI-Morgan]

Airflow figures?

[Paul Webster]

Sorry private / public joke if you read our banter

[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Thanks for sharing Jan, so are the modified ones like the airflow figures

lol....

I did find some areas of the map which really light up the tires.....

[Paul Webster]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

So it seems to me there is no perfect answer as to whether a package or a bespoke set up will work best. If I want my car set-up for:

• 6 Santa Pod Visits a Year
• 6 Track Days at Bedford a Year
• 7 Day hoon through Europe in the height of Summer
• 7 Day hoon through Norway and Sweden in the Autumn
• Weekly Corsa/Saxo baiting down the long straights of Milton Keynes

Which tuning company/package will give me the optimum performance in all these conditions without the need to be seen again once the package is installed?

I think the answer is for you to have your own means of data logging so the tuning company you choose understand your particular requirements.

To do what you require is nearly what BMW would tune their cars to do, i.e extreme opposites.

[brightblue]

nothing to do with GSR but called in on sunday as i have skyline at red dot

the older chap with the mini tuned my old 205 mi16v ralley sprint car

he is great on turbo and injection engines has many contacts in racing he lives near me in kent not sure

[alski]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

So it seems to me there is no perfect answer as to whether a package or a bespoke set up will work best. If I want my car set-up for:

• 6 Santa Pod Visits a Year
• 6 Track Days at Bedford a Year
• 7 Day hoon through Europe in the height of Summer
• 7 Day hoon through Norway and Sweden in the Autumn
• Weekly Corsa/Saxo baiting down the long straights of Milton Keynes

Which tuning company/package will give me the optimum performance in all these conditions without the need to be seen again once the package is installed?

this shouldn't be rocket science with over ten tuners offering 250 bhp and beyond
so....
big night out, but you want something safe say Shepperd's pie

think off 5 top chefs, for the same dish all will have a different recipe and say theirs is the best, no one will like their dish being messed with by the other chefs, all will have their own special ingredient, and all will suggest reasons as to why theirs is much better than the rest
and offer you "evidence"

i suggest you take a big pinch of salt and then come to your own conclusions
to my knowledge no one has had the time or the budget to taste all whats being offered

[BigShow]

Quote: Originally Posted by alski (original)

this shouldn't be rocket science with over ten tuners offering 250 bhp and beyond
so....
big night out, but you want something safe say Shepperd's pie

think off 5 top chefs, for the same dish all will have a different recipe and say theirs is the best, no one will like their dish being messed with by the other chefs, all will have their own special ingredient, and all will suggest reasons as to why theirs is much better than the rest
and offer you "evidence"

i suggest you take a big pinch of salt and then come to your own conclusions
to my knowledge no one has had the time or the budget to taste all whats being offered

ROFLMFAO!! Quality, perfect sumation!

[rory2000]

sounds great

[Lucky Dave]

Chilli sauce on my pie for me!

[Loui]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Sorry private / public joke if you read our banter

LOL Its a mystery

[Fisher]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

The safest way is to stick with GTT conversions as they are and as set up tested by us. As soon as you start changing things around afterwards , putting other brand intercoolers & manifolds on etc problems can occur. (eg pinking). However as stated earlier a car can pink on the RR but not on the road.If you retard it its better on the RR but poorer on the road. If cars need or will benefit from remap thats what we do.
Our car (supercharged) ran 273 bhp on stock map, simply because it was the best. I have 12 maps to choose from..
Oh our GTT300T with differnt map sensors (3 bar) different injectors, turbo and everthing else under sun changed runs........stock map!!

Hi, how can I check if my car pinking or not? It is possible to do that on the simple way?

[Paul Webster]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original)

Here is a STOCK 03 Mini S (notice the higher timing at redline and upper rpm ranges)

here is a STOCK 06 Mini S (notice the higher timing down low)

I've just checked two customers cars and there spot on with the above in standard form.

[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

I've just checked two customers cars and there spot on with the above in standard form.

well.... yeah....
why would I lie?

[Oldschool]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

At peak power the throttle is wide open and the revs are in the region of 6500-7000. At this point there are only 2 things a 'remap' can do.
1) Ignition timing (advance or retard it)
2) Fuelling. Now assuming you have a pulley (15% or 17%) ,and stock injectors there is virtually no more fuel available (duty cycle) to put more fuel in if you wanted. And if you cant put more fuel in you cant add any timing advance as they will pink (stock map timing is very close to optimum at this point).
You will never get large power increases on a 'pullied' MCS by re-mapping. The people that show these power increases do both the mapping AND the before/after power runs. !!
I would advise at least use a 'non Mini tuners' RR for both the runs, dont even tell them whats been done .
Save your money and fit bigger injectors and maybe the Adjustable FPR we do . Get someone to set it up with a Wide Band ....and you WILL get power (still not 20+bhp though).
If your mapping were to need changing to the extent that you did gain 20+bhp then that is because of a faulty sensor (eg T Map) or an air leak. Two wrongs dont make a right.(especially if you replace the dicky sensor later on.) Stock mapping on a 'pullied' car is very close to optimum.
Best Regards roland GTT

What duty cycle are you running on the stoch setup then?

And what is the duty cycle on the GTT230?

[BRMCooper]

all i know is mine goes a bugger load quicker for little pennies on a stock ecu 100mph down a 1/4mile dont lie! unless some one moved the starting line up a bit for my run

[Loui]

Quote: Originally Posted by BRMCooper (original)

all i know is mine goes a bugger load quicker for little pennies on a stock ecu 100mph down a 1/4mile dont lie! unless some one moved the starting line up a bit for my run

No they moved the start line for you LMAO

[BRMCooper]

DAMN IT!! i knew that bloke with the bucket of white pain was up to no good!!

[Paul Webster]

Today at Santa Pod

60ft 2.1189
330ft 5.9778
1/8 9.2690
mph 75.25
1000 12.0108
1/4 14.4786
mph 95.12

We dynoed the Mini yesterday and it showed 195bhp. (stock engine with Janspeed manifold and cat, Borla Cooper cat back)

The Mini had a extra ballast today as it had an extra 5 gals of fuel 50lb and a passenger seat though it didn't have the nitrous bottle in, so I believe one would cancel out the other.

So using the formula BHP=(mph/236)x(mph/236)x(mph/236)x weight lbs

The answer comes out at 194.75bhp

[Paul Webster]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

1320, yeah thats what i bloody hope, that was the last time i ran it back in January 2nd pod of the year, i worked it out on your MPH HP calculator thinkg and with my weight etc it came out about 14.3. Toput that into context my old Ibiza did 14.42 at 96mph, and that was 230 Bhp but the Mini is a tad lighter than the cupra was.,

Did you go?? we saw a silver S up there but never found it due to having the kids with us.