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lucachiarelli · Oct 5th, 2007, 07:38 PM

Hi everyone. My cooper s today has put the eml light on aswel as picture above it and traction control light. It happens when i rev over 4500rpm. Its an 06 mcs. Its has pulley 15% with reduced belt, spark plugs(jcw), Milltek catback, bluefin, alta cai and gtt intercooler. The light came on last week and the car wouldnt rev properly so i pulled over and switched it on then off and the EML light went off but the traction control light stayed on aswel as the picture of the engine light. The mods i have listed have been on the car for a year. I have had no problems like this before. The only recent mods i have done are modified bypass valve, manifold with cat, lighweight crank pulley and a bbk.
Today i put my foot down in second (not to redline) and eml, engine light and traction control light came on, so i pulled over again and switched the car off and on and the eml light went off so i could drive the car normally . But i still had the engine light and traction control light on.
I took the car out five mins ago and all three lights came on twice in the space of 5 minutes.
Sorry about the long story but im best giving as much detail as possible.
What can i do?
Help

Paul Webster · Oct 5th, 2007, 08:43 PM

What % is the crank pulley??

ScottyBoy · Oct 5th, 2007, 08:47 PM

Ive read thesame thng from another memer recently ill see if i can see the thread, sorry to hears this Luca.

Scott

supercoopers · Oct 5th, 2007, 08:47 PM

Your TMap sensor has gone by the sounds of things - the symptoms you describe are exactly what happen!

If if just started suddenly/randomly, then it is most probably that. Not too bad though, only £25 from the stealers but if it's damaged, makes the car die completely

Cheers,

Henry

ScottyBoy · Oct 5th, 2007, 08:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supercoopers (original)

Your TMap sensor has gone by the sounds of things - the symptoms you describe are exactly what happen!

If if just started suddenly/randomly, then it is most probably that. Not too bad though, only £25 from the stealers but if it's damaged, makes the car die completely

Cheers,

Henry

Thats te answer i reember now from the other thread.... but does the lights need reseting??

If they do i may be able to help you out with them when we meet.

supercoopers · Oct 5th, 2007, 09:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyBoy230 (original)

Thats te answer i reember now from the other thread.... but does the lights need reseting??

If they do i may be able to help you out with them when we meet.

There's no need - just replace the sensor and the light should go out after a few starts, but resetting expedites the process.

Lucky Dave · Oct 5th, 2007, 09:48 PM

Yes it sound like the tmap sensor, it reads inlet boost pressure and temp, easy to fit, its the black small box like thing in the front edge of your inlet manifold above the radiator.

Ant FR · Oct 5th, 2007, 10:48 PM

also scanguage will rest engine light, the only light it does'nt reset on the mini is the Airbag unfortunately

robbo mcs · Oct 5th, 2007, 11:31 PM

Hi,

The car is going into limp mode. There are many, many things that could be causing this to happen. Any number of sensor failures can cause this, for example I have had this happen on my car with a boost pressure sensor failure.

What you need to do is get it to a garage where they have the software to download the error codes, and find out exactly what it is.

DO NOT simply replace the Tmap sensor. It could be the Tmap sensor, but equally it may not be. There are lots of things that can cause these exact symptoms. The map sensor is one of the commonest, but not the only one. If you replace the Tmap sensor it will not fix it if is another sensor failure, and you will have wasted your money.

It will take a workshop with the proper reader 1 minute to download the codes, and work out exactly what has caused the problem.

Cheers

Robbo

lucachiarelli · Oct 6th, 2007, 02:12 AM

1320 autos - i have the standard sized lighweight crank pulley

If i take my car to the dealership will they not say anything about the mods?

roland2003 · Oct 6th, 2007, 08:28 AM

Hi Luka, Yes,Sounds like the T Map sensor Part number 12 140 872 679. About £20+vat ,change it yourself in around 3 minutes......Located in the front of the inlet manifold right at the front above the rad, unplug the connector ,and undo the 2 torx screws and slide out. No need to reset anything ,just replace & go.
Best Regards Roland GTT

lucachiarelli · Oct 6th, 2007, 10:23 AM

Ive just ordered a t map sensor from mini. The closest one to me that has them in stock is sheffield which is 70 miles away

.
Ive had to order it hopefully will be here by tuesday.
Hopefully this will work, if not i will do a diagnostics on the car.
Really appreciate all the help guys.
Thanks.

lucachiarelli · Oct 6th, 2007, 10:25 AM

By the way does anybody have a pic of where exactly it is? I think i know but just want to make sure. Thanks.

MINI-Morgan · Oct 6th, 2007, 11:45 AM

Follow the right intercooler arm(when stood infront of the car) around onto the inlet manifold and its right there infront of you. The black square'ish piece of plastic with 2 torq screws and a plug on.

2second change for you

Lucky Dave · Oct 6th, 2007, 01:14 PM

once you have seen the the new one in your hand it will be easy the spot the old one!

Richard Crofts · Oct 8th, 2007, 02:18 PM

Hows it gone?

lucachiarelli · Oct 8th, 2007, 05:55 PM

Just got back from dealers.
These are the exact words from the technicians report.
"1.Call up fault memories, found fault in DME. Called up wiring diagram.
2.Visual check wiring found air pressure sensor connector wiring chaffed againstaftermarket airbox. NOT WARRANTY"
The guy said that the wiring doesnt need replacing it can be repaired but will be an hour and a halfs labour. So he wants to charge me £135 inc vat.
I have the alta induction kit and it was fitted at a mini specialist. Are they to blame?

ScottyBoy · Oct 8th, 2007, 06:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original)

Just got back from dealers.
These are the exact words from the technicians report.
"1.Call up fault memories, found fault in DME. Called up wiring diagram.
2.Visual check wiring found air pressure sensor connector wiring chaffed againstaftermarket airbox. NOT WARRANTY"
The guy said that the wiring doesnt need replacing it can be repaired but will be an hour and a halfs labour. So he wants to charge me £135 inc vat.
I have the alta induction kit and it was fitted at a mini specialist. Are they to blame?

Can you not repair the wires yourself mate? that seems a bit extreme a price to repair something thats in view. can you see the proble and take a pic of the damage?

MINI-Morgan · Oct 8th, 2007, 07:04 PM

Wires wearing through and causing earthing to the chassis is very common..... I even found another two today on my MINI! grrrrrr! The cheap fix is heat shrink or some good insulation tape.

lucachiarelli · Oct 8th, 2007, 07:47 PM

Here are some pics of the wires. Not very clear.
Will insulation tape sort it out?

Oct 5th, 2007, 07:38 PM	#1
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 514 Offline	Very sick mini help plz Hi everyone. My cooper s today has put the eml light on aswel as picture above it and traction control light. It happens when i rev over 4500rpm. Its an 06 mcs. Its has pulley 15% with reduced belt, spark plugs(jcw), Milltek catback, bluefin, alta cai and gtt intercooler. The light came on last week and the car wouldnt rev properly so i pulled over and switched it on then off and the EML light went off but the traction control light stayed on aswel as the picture of the engine light. The mods i have listed have been on the car for a year. I have had no problems like this before. The only recent mods i have done are modified bypass valve, manifold with cat, lighweight crank pulley and a bbk. Today i put my foot down in second (not to redline) and eml, engine light and traction control light came on, so i pulled over again and switched the car off and on and the eml light went off so i could drive the car normally . But i still had the engine light and traction control light on. I took the car out five mins ago and all three lights came on twice in the space of 5 minutes. Sorry about the long story but im best giving as much detail as possible. What can i do? Help

Oct 5th, 2007, 08:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	What % is the crank pulley?? Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Oct 5th, 2007, 09:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lucky Dave Thinking Minis My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 811 Offline	Yes it sound like the tmap sensor, it reads inlet boost pressure and temp, easy to fit, its the black small box like thing in the front edge of your inlet manifold above the radiator. For All Your Mini's Needs 01905 620011

Oct 5th, 2007, 11:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:57 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Hi, The car is going into limp mode. There are many, many things that could be causing this to happen. Any number of sensor failures can cause this, for example I have had this happen on my car with a boost pressure sensor failure. What you need to do is get it to a garage where they have the software to download the error codes, and find out exactly what it is. DO NOT simply replace the Tmap sensor. It could be the Tmap sensor, but equally it may not be. There are lots of things that can cause these exact symptoms. The map sensor is one of the commonest, but not the only one. If you replace the Tmap sensor it will not fix it if is another sensor failure, and you will have wasted your money. It will take a workshop with the proper reader 1 minute to download the codes, and work out exactly what has caused the problem. Cheers Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

Oct 6th, 2007, 08:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 2,731 Offline	Hi Luka, Yes,Sounds like the T Map sensor Part number 12 140 872 679. About £20+vat ,change it yourself in around 3 minutes......Located in the front of the inlet manifold right at the front above the rad, unplug the connector ,and undo the 2 torx screws and slide out. No need to reset anything ,just replace & go. Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

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Oct 5th, 2007, 08:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 2,948 Online	Ive read thesame thng from another memer recently ill see if i can see the thread, sorry to hears this Luca. Scott

Oct 5th, 2007, 08:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
supercoopers MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 537 Offline	Your TMap sensor has gone by the sounds of things - the symptoms you describe are exactly what happen! If if just started suddenly/randomly, then it is most probably that. Not too bad though, only £25 from the stealers but if it's damaged, makes the car die completely Cheers, Henry

Oct 5th, 2007, 08:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 2,948 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by supercoopers (original) Your TMap sensor has gone by the sounds of things - the symptoms you describe are exactly what happen! If if just started suddenly/randomly, then it is most probably that. Not too bad though, only £25 from the stealers but if it's damaged, makes the car die completely Cheers, Henry Thats te answer i reember now from the other thread.... but does the lights need reseting?? If they do i may be able to help you out with them when we meet.

Oct 5th, 2007, 09:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
supercoopers MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 537 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyBoy230 (original) Thats te answer i reember now from the other thread.... but does the lights need reseting?? If they do i may be able to help you out with them when we meet. There's no need - just replace the sensor and the light should go out after a few starts, but resetting expedites the process.

Oct 5th, 2007, 10:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	also scanguage will rest engine light, the only light it does'nt reset on the mini is the Airbag unfortunately

Oct 6th, 2007, 02:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 514 Offline	1320 autos - i have the standard sized lighweight crank pulley If i take my car to the dealership will they not say anything about the mods?

Oct 6th, 2007, 10:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 514 Offline	Ive just ordered a t map sensor from mini. The closest one to me that has them in stock is sheffield which is 70 miles away. Ive had to order it hopefully will be here by tuesday. Hopefully this will work, if not i will do a diagnostics on the car. Really appreciate all the help guys. Thanks.

Oct 6th, 2007, 10:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 514 Offline	By the way does anybody have a pic of where exactly it is? I think i know but just want to make sure. Thanks.

Oct 6th, 2007, 11:45 AM	#14 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Follow the right intercooler arm(when stood infront of the car) around onto the inlet manifold and its right there infront of you. The black square'ish piece of plastic with 2 torq screws and a plug on. 2second change for you One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Oct 6th, 2007, 01:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
Lucky Dave Thinking Minis My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 811 Offline	once you have seen the the new one in your hand it will be easy the spot the old one! For All Your Mini's Needs 01905 620011

Oct 8th, 2007, 02:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	Hows it gone?

Oct 8th, 2007, 05:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 514 Offline	Just got back from dealers. These are the exact words from the technicians report. "1.Call up fault memories, found fault in DME. Called up wiring diagram. 2.Visual check wiring found air pressure sensor connector wiring chaffed againstaftermarket airbox. NOT WARRANTY" The guy said that the wiring doesnt need replacing it can be repaired but will be an hour and a halfs labour. So he wants to charge me £135 inc vat. I have the alta induction kit and it was fitted at a mini specialist. Are they to blame?

Oct 8th, 2007, 06:15 PM	#18 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 2,948 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original) Just got back from dealers. These are the exact words from the technicians report. "1.Call up fault memories, found fault in DME. Called up wiring diagram. 2.Visual check wiring found air pressure sensor connector wiring chaffed againstaftermarket airbox. NOT WARRANTY" The guy said that the wiring doesnt need replacing it can be repaired but will be an hour and a halfs labour. So he wants to charge me £135 inc vat. I have the alta induction kit and it was fitted at a mini specialist. Are they to blame? Can you not repair the wires yourself mate? that seems a bit extreme a price to repair something thats in view. can you see the proble and take a pic of the damage?

Oct 8th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Wires wearing through and causing earthing to the chassis is very common..... I even found another two today on my MINI! grrrrrr! The cheap fix is heat shrink or some good insulation tape. One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Oct 8th, 2007, 07:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 514 Offline	Here are some pics of the wires. Not very clear. Will insulation tape sort it out? Attached Thumbnails

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