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Streeters · Oct 10th, 2007, 01:32 PM

I'm thinking of making our cooper go a little faster.

I dont at this stage want to go the whole hog with exhausts etc, although I may consider that option (JCW SOUND KIT?) Also i dont want to invalidate the warranty i have left (2 years)

From what i've read there seems plenty for Ones and MCS but not a lot for my Coop.

Any opinions / assistance gratefully received. Thank You, Mark.

Paul · Oct 10th, 2007, 01:40 PM

Pretty much anything for the One will work with the Cooper, but the One gets more dramatic gains (it is basically a de-tuned Cooper unit) so the One gets more publicity and chat about power boosting.

If you go aftermarket, so anything not MINI approved, you run a warranty risk. How real that risk is is open to debate, but the part you change will (obviously) not be warranted by MINI, and possibly directly attached or related other components.

Most common options are chip tuning, as they're more discrete and easier to reverse than, for example, changing your exhaust or intake.

Streeters · Oct 10th, 2007, 01:44 PM

Does that mean then that I could get some worthwhile gain from say a blufin and would i get any extra from a JCW sound kit? as the JCW kit would i assume be covered by the warranty

lucachiarelli · Oct 10th, 2007, 01:47 PM

You will get a better gain from the bluefin than the sound kit as its only a filter and exhaust. Why dont you get both

.
Bluefin can be uninstalled back to standard in 30 seconds.
So if any warranty issues occur then you can uninstall it and they wont know a thing.

Streeters · Oct 10th, 2007, 01:55 PM

Thanks for that, Its kinda the way i was already thinking, but not 100%, 10bhp or so from blufin doesnt sound a lot tho, but its a start, The soundkit only comes into play because A) it sound great and B) I can then put JCW badge on the boot hehehehe, and it looks great when you open the bonnet too.

lucachiarelli · Oct 10th, 2007, 02:01 PM

A filter and exhaust makes the cooper sound amazing.
Here is a sound clip i found from youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44odY...%20SOUND%20KIT

This is the jcw sound kit.

BigShow · Oct 10th, 2007, 02:04 PM

Lohen.co.uk - Track & Fast Road Performance for your New Mini - Online Shop

This is a good start and if you don't want the worry or hassle of DIY it s no brainer.

lucachiarelli · Oct 10th, 2007, 02:04 PM

Here is lohens car. Its a one but will sound the same as the cooper.

YouTube - Lohen LO3

Streeters · Oct 10th, 2007, 02:11 PM

Cheers Guys, Will the plugs n filter help much over n above the normal blufin?

Cant get those clips at work, Not allowed Youtube BOOO, I've heard the JCW one before

BigShow · Oct 10th, 2007, 02:19 PM

Get yer wallet out son!

Sounds Mint!

Greenie1 · Oct 10th, 2007, 02:31 PM

I love my JCW sound kit.

ohsoblue · Oct 10th, 2007, 03:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Greenie1 (original)

I love my JCW sound kit.

Well pleased with mine too, but you only really appreciate it from inside the car. Haven't noticed any real power improvement but it has definitely 'smoothed' the engine's response when the right foot gets pushed down

If it wasn't a warranty issue I'd have gone for the Play Mini exhaust and probably an open cone type filter. Good luck with what ever you choose.

Richard Crofts · Oct 10th, 2007, 04:09 PM

If you want simple plug and play without too much/no noise then a bluefin is best bang for buck mod on the MINI one.

Then a closed cold air intake and a manifold. TBH thats about as far as you need to go on the Cooper/ONE as it all gets a lot more expensive after that...and for not a lot of HP IMO

Streeters · Oct 10th, 2007, 04:23 PM

[quote=BigShow;3186222]Get yer wallet out son!

quote]
Aw Cant I use yours!!

Seriously guys, Thanks for all of your input, You've pretty much echoed the thoughts swirling around my grey matter already. Which is re-assuring for me at least i feel better when I take the plunge. Blufin and sound kit it it then.

Still not sure wether the rest of the Lohen package os worth it, but then again its not that much more anyway, just does anyone know if the plugs n filter make a difference?

BigShow · Oct 10th, 2007, 04:46 PM

Lol... there's nothing but moths in it now after 3.5k's worth of upgrades this month!

Whatever you do it'll be worth it, I can highly recomend Lohen though and if they say it'll give you 10bhp i'd believe them. Plus, the plugs and filter can only help.

Step_7 · Oct 11th, 2007, 05:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Streeters (original)

Blufin and sound kit it it then.

Erm.. I looked in to doing this myself and I was told that a Bluefin wouldn't work if it finds a "non-standard" map when you plug it in. So Bluefin after a Sound Kit Map has been uploaded is probably not possible.

I'm still considering the Sound kit followed up (eventually) by a remap from MTH though.

lucachiarelli · Oct 11th, 2007, 08:14 AM

I didnt think the sound kit came with a map.
They have a bluefin for the jcw cooper s.

humph · Oct 11th, 2007, 08:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Step_7 (original)

Erm.. I looked in to doing this myself and I was told that a Bluefin wouldn't work if it finds a "non-standard" map when you plug it in. So Bluefin after a Sound Kit Map has been uploaded is probably not possible.

I'm still considering the Sound kit followed up (eventually) by a remap from MTH though.

I sent an email to Superchips about this, and the matter of whether the Blufin stores your map or has it's own built in "standard" map for when you reverse the process. The reply was that the Blufin will just remove and reinstall whatever map was on the car when you intall the Blufin. The only thing I will say is the response did look suspiciously automated.

I run a JCW sound kit,which I love, with the JC Motorsport open cone filter. Sounds amazing, but I do wish JCW/MINI had had the balls to up the car to 130bhp with it.

Don't forget that Superchips offer their own warranty with the Blufin. They claim never to have used it, but there is a clause in the words about the policy being voided by other modifications.

Step_7 · Oct 11th, 2007, 02:23 PM

I'm sure I read on here (somehwere) that Lohen said it wouldn't work. Ah, no matter - still think that the MTH map would get the best out of the Sound kit parts anyway, I've no longer any warranty issues to consider so the reversible mapping isn't a concern.

humph · Oct 11th, 2007, 02:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Step_7 (original)

I'm sure I read on here (somehwere) that Lohen said it wouldn't work. Ah, no matter - still think that the MTH map would get the best out of the Sound kit parts anyway, I've no longer any warranty issues to consider so the reversible mapping isn't a concern.

As I say I never fully trusted the email i got back. Have never found a definitive answer.

Oct 10th, 2007, 01:32 PM	#1
Streeters ECMC Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 536 Offline	Make My Cooper go faster Please I'm thinking of making our cooper go a little faster. I dont at this stage want to go the whole hog with exhausts etc, although I may consider that option (JCW SOUND KIT?) Also i dont want to invalidate the warranty i have left (2 years) From what i've read there seems plenty for Ones and MCS but not a lot for my Coop. Any opinions / assistance gratefully received. Thank You, Mark. Modern Mini Mag Oscars 2008 "Spirit of MINI Ownership" nominee

Oct 10th, 2007, 01:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 41,212 Online	Pretty much anything for the One will work with the Cooper, but the One gets more dramatic gains (it is basically a de-tuned Cooper unit) so the One gets more publicity and chat about power boosting. If you go aftermarket, so anything not MINI approved, you run a warranty risk. How real that risk is is open to debate, but the part you change will (obviously) not be warranted by MINI, and possibly directly attached or related other components. Most common options are chip tuning, as they're more discrete and easier to reverse than, for example, changing your exhaust or intake. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Oct 10th, 2007, 01:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Streeters ECMC Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 536 Offline	Does that mean then that I could get some worthwhile gain from say a blufin and would i get any extra from a JCW sound kit? as the JCW kit would i assume be covered by the warranty Modern Mini Mag Oscars 2008 "Spirit of MINI Ownership" nominee

Oct 10th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 514 Offline	You will get a better gain from the bluefin than the sound kit as its only a filter and exhaust. Why dont you get both. Bluefin can be uninstalled back to standard in 30 seconds. So if any warranty issues occur then you can uninstall it and they wont know a thing.

Oct 10th, 2007, 01:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Streeters ECMC Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 536 Offline	Thanks for that, Its kinda the way i was already thinking, but not 100%, 10bhp or so from blufin doesnt sound a lot tho, but its a start, The soundkit only comes into play because A) it sound great and B) I can then put JCW badge on the boot hehehehe, and it looks great when you open the bonnet too. Modern Mini Mag Oscars 2008 "Spirit of MINI Ownership" nominee

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Oct 10th, 2007, 02:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 514 Offline	A filter and exhaust makes the cooper sound amazing. Here is a sound clip i found from youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44odY...%20SOUND%20KIT This is the jcw sound kit.

Oct 10th, 2007, 02:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 922 Offline	Lohen.co.uk - Track & Fast Road Performance for your New Mini - Online Shop This is a good start and if you don't want the worry or hassle of DIY it s no brainer. MiniTorque.com
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Oct 10th, 2007, 02:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 514 Offline	Here is lohens car. Its a one but will sound the same as the cooper. YouTube - Lohen LO3

Oct 10th, 2007, 02:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Streeters ECMC Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 536 Offline	Cheers Guys, Will the plugs n filter help much over n above the normal blufin? Cant get those clips at work, Not allowed Youtube BOOO, I've heard the JCW one before Modern Mini Mag Oscars 2008 "Spirit of MINI Ownership" nominee

Oct 10th, 2007, 02:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 922 Offline	Get yer wallet out son! Sounds Mint! MiniTorque.com

Oct 10th, 2007, 02:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Greenie1 vroom, vroom! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Suffolk/Essex Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 389 Offline	I love my JCW sound kit.

Oct 10th, 2007, 03:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
ohsoblue My brain hurts! <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a padded cell Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 4,807 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Greenie1 (original) I love my JCW sound kit. Well pleased with mine too, but you only really appreciate it from inside the car. Haven't noticed any real power improvement but it has definitely 'smoothed' the engine's response when the right foot gets pushed down If it wasn't a warranty issue I'd have gone for the Play Mini exhaust and probably an open cone type filter. Good luck with what ever you choose.

Oct 10th, 2007, 04:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 3,162 Online	If you want simple plug and play without too much/no noise then a bluefin is best bang for buck mod on the MINI one. Then a closed cold air intake and a manifold. TBH thats about as far as you need to go on the Cooper/ONE as it all gets a lot more expensive after that...and for not a lot of HP IMO

Oct 10th, 2007, 04:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
Streeters ECMC Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 536 Offline	[quote=BigShow;3186222]Get yer wallet out son! quote] Aw Cant I use yours!! Seriously guys, Thanks for all of your input, You've pretty much echoed the thoughts swirling around my grey matter already. Which is re-assuring for me at least i feel better when I take the plunge. Blufin and sound kit it it then. Still not sure wether the rest of the Lohen package os worth it, but then again its not that much more anyway, just does anyone know if the plugs n filter make a difference? Modern Mini Mag Oscars 2008 "Spirit of MINI Ownership" nominee

Oct 10th, 2007, 04:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 922 Offline	Lol... there's nothing but moths in it now after 3.5k's worth of upgrades this month! Whatever you do it'll be worth it, I can highly recomend Lohen though and if they say it'll give you 10bhp i'd believe them. Plus, the plugs and filter can only help. MiniTorque.com

Oct 11th, 2007, 05:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
Step_7 Whining.... My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ire Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 1,736 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Streeters (original) Blufin and sound kit it it then. Erm.. I looked in to doing this myself and I was told that a Bluefin wouldn't work if it finds a "non-standard" map when you plug it in. So Bluefin after a Sound Kit Map has been uploaded is probably not possible. I'm still considering the Sound kit followed up (eventually) by a remap from MTH though. www.mlni.co.uk

Oct 11th, 2007, 08:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 514 Offline	I didnt think the sound kit came with a map. They have a bluefin for the jcw cooper s.

Oct 11th, 2007, 08:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 2,609 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Step_7 (original) Erm.. I looked in to doing this myself and I was told that a Bluefin wouldn't work if it finds a "non-standard" map when you plug it in. So Bluefin after a Sound Kit Map has been uploaded is probably not possible. I'm still considering the Sound kit followed up (eventually) by a remap from MTH though. I sent an email to Superchips about this, and the matter of whether the Blufin stores your map or has it's own built in "standard" map for when you reverse the process. The reply was that the Blufin will just remove and reinstall whatever map was on the car when you intall the Blufin. The only thing I will say is the response did look suspiciously automated. I run a JCW sound kit,which I love, with the JC Motorsport open cone filter. Sounds amazing, but I do wish JCW/MINI had had the balls to up the car to 130bhp with it. Don't forget that Superchips offer their own warranty with the Blufin. They claim never to have used it, but there is a clause in the words about the policy being voided by other modifications. MODERN MINI - BEST COOPER NOMINEE - PLEASE VOTE FOR ME!!!

Oct 11th, 2007, 02:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
Step_7 Whining.... My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ire Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 1,736 Offline	I'm sure I read on here (somehwere) that Lohen said it wouldn't work. Ah, no matter - still think that the MTH map would get the best out of the Sound kit parts anyway, I've no longer any warranty issues to consider so the reversible mapping isn't a concern. www.mlni.co.uk

Oct 11th, 2007, 02:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 02:33 PM Posts: 2,609 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Step_7 (original) I'm sure I read on here (somehwere) that Lohen said it wouldn't work. Ah, no matter - still think that the MTH map would get the best out of the Sound kit parts anyway, I've no longer any warranty issues to consider so the reversible mapping isn't a concern. As I say I never fully trusted the email i got back. Have never found a definitive answer. MODERN MINI - BEST COOPER NOMINEE - PLEASE VOTE FOR ME!!!

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