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Revolution Mini Works · Oct 28th, 2007, 01:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

Cheers Paul and Gnatster

Are these heads available yet or are they still prototypes?

Just wondering what sort of price the head is?

Regards

James

they have been shipped all over the world

Jaw_F430 · Oct 28th, 2007, 06:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original)

they have been shipped all over the world

Where do I get one from and how much then?

Can I import it myself as should be quite cheap if I buy it in US dollars

Regards

James

Paul Webster · Oct 28th, 2007, 07:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

No there realy hard and old actually. If he had the later gearing I would have managed 30-70 in second. When were ready Ill put up a new GTT300T performance test results for all sorts things. Not standing starts as thats too driver/ drag setup dependant..

Its it to laggy in 3rd to do a good 30-70 then

Loui · Oct 28th, 2007, 10:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

Where do I get one from and how much then?

Can I import it myself as should be quite cheap if I buy it in US dollars

Regards

James

Jans head will be more expensive than any head in the UK. $2000 plus shipping.

Welcome to Revolution Mini

Its one of the ones im considering

badboyzbadboyz · Oct 30th, 2007, 05:31 PM

Great thread, it nice to see a measurement of usable power.

I tried this in my Golf TDI to see how it compares.

Mk4 Golf TDI 130
185 bhp (approx after remap)
325 lb/ft (approx after remap)

1. 5.97
2. 6.12
3. 6.01
4. 5.87

Average: 5.99

Its not a true comparison (due to the difference in gear ratios etc) but I thought I would put the results up anyway.

Jaw_F430 · Oct 31st, 2007, 10:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Hey Guys,

Please can people post up your 30-70mph times in 3rd gear with a basic spec/HP of your MINI. I'm very interested to see how everyone compares as this will test low end/mid range torque which is what we really use everyday instead of outright drag stripe HP. The idea is to read dead on 30mph and then floor it to 70mph.

These can easily be taken on any straight flat piece of national speed limit road with a stop watch and using the OBC read out. Please no slip roads as it can be dangerous and most of them either go up or down hill.

Mine was taken from the average of 4 runs rather than the fastest:

GTT 230+ with a couple of extra mods - 6.2seconds

Thanks

Move me up one mini-morgan

Cooper S:
1320autos : 5.56 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3202066
MINI-Morgan : 5.77 http://www.mini2.com/forum/3197590-post69.html
BigShow : 6.075 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3191861
Jaw_F430 : 6.05 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3197886

Regards

James

kpgmini · Nov 1st, 2007, 01:07 AM

turbo lag sucks!!

roland2003 · Nov 1st, 2007, 10:27 AM

Hi kpg, yes IMHO that setup youve got judging by your RR printout on the ' I went to the dyno last light ' thread
is going to be seriously laggy on the road. I'll put up some spool up comparisons with our GTT300T conversions in the near future.
Have you tried 30 to 70 in third gear? -To be fair your power is moved up the rev range so your available power band suits second gear much better, and peak power will be good as long as theres enough exhaust gas in reserve to produce more boost.
Best Regards Roland GTT

kpgmini · Nov 1st, 2007, 06:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Hi kpg, yes IMHO that setup youve got judging by your RR printout on the ' I went to the dyno last light ' thread
is going to be seriously laggy on the road. I'll put up some spool up comparisons with our GTT300T conversions in the near future.
Have you tried 30 to 70 in third gear? -To be fair your power is moved up the rev range so your available power band suits second gear much better, and peak power will be good as long as theres enough exhaust gas in reserve to produce more boost.
Best Regards Roland GTT

yeah...3rd gear sucks at 30-70...im gonna try 2nd gear tonight...

Paul Webster · Nov 1st, 2007, 07:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by kpgmini (original)

yeah...3rd gear sucks at 30-70...im gonna try 2nd gear tonight...

Cant wait, can we have video as well

kpgmini · Nov 1st, 2007, 07:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Cant wait, can we have video as well

no vid.. my camera sucks!

Paul Webster · Nov 1st, 2007, 07:33 PM

No worries, where's Tuls when u need him

I would rather you spend money on inectors / fuel rail before a camera

kpgmini · Nov 1st, 2007, 07:35 PM

yeah.. me too..lol

Paul Webster · Nov 2nd, 2007, 12:32 AM

The Mini now has 17 inch wheels on with 205 40 and a nice quiet 06 Cooper exhaust on.

3300 -6800 in 2nd 3.46

30 -70 using 2nd and 3rd 5.12

30 - 70 3rd gear 6.11,6.04

2800 -6800 3rd gear 8.17, 8.26

kpgmini · Nov 2nd, 2007, 01:21 AM

what's your top speed on 2nd?

Paul Webster · Nov 2nd, 2007, 01:43 AM

63mph @ 6850, would of been a lot more if that ecu had got back to the UK.

MINI-Morgan · Nov 2nd, 2007, 10:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

Move me up one mini-morgan

Cooper S:
1320autos : 5.56 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3202066
MINI-Morgan : 5.77 http://www.mini2.com/forum/3197590-post69.html
BigShow : 6.075 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3191861
Jaw_F430 : 6.05 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3197886

Regards

James

Whoopss! my bad

MINI-Morgan · Nov 2nd, 2007, 10:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

No worries, where's Tuls when u need him

I would rather you spend money on inectors / fuel rail before a camera

Would love to see Tuls do the 30-70 too! And others like Trickle

Jaw_F430 · Nov 2nd, 2007, 10:42 PM

Had a R56 mini one for the last 3 days since I have had my car in at the dealers for warranty work so just thought I would test the 30-70 time so here is the result:

Three runs carried out and the average was 13.13 seconds!!!

Got my car back today and it feels soooo fast lol

Regards

James

Paul Webster · Nov 2nd, 2007, 11:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

Had a R56 mini one for the last 3 days since I have had my car in at the dealers for warranty work so just thought I would test the 30-70 time so here is the result:

Three runs carried out and the average was 13.13 seconds!!!

Got my car back today and it feels soooo fast lol

Regards

James

ROTFLMAO I had to read that twice I wasn't sure whether it was 3.13 or 13.13, I assumed that it was an S R56 you were driving not a One

Oct 28th, 2007, 07:25 PM	#143 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original) No there realy hard and old actually. If he had the later gearing I would have managed 30-70 in second. When were ready Ill put up a new GTT300T performance test results for all sorts things. Not standing starts as thats too driver/ drag setup dependant.. Its it to laggy in 3rd to do a good 30-70 then Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Oct 28th, 2007, 10:37 PM	#144 (permalink)
Loui 230whp an counting My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mini Addiction Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 3,036 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original) Where do I get one from and how much then? Can I import it myself as should be quite cheap if I buy it in US dollars Regards James Jans head will be more expensive than any head in the UK. $2000 plus shipping. Welcome to Revolution Mini Its one of the ones im considering WWW.MINIADDICTION.CO.UK

Nov 1st, 2007, 01:07 AM	#147 (permalink)
kpgmini Boosting!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: whaaaapshhhh!!!!!!!! Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 16 Offline	turbo lag sucks!! 20psi 314whp 240ft lbs

Nov 1st, 2007, 10:27 AM	#148 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 2,731 Offline	Hi kpg, yes IMHO that setup youve got judging by your RR printout on the ' I went to the dyno last light ' thread is going to be seriously laggy on the road. I'll put up some spool up comparisons with our GTT300T conversions in the near future. Have you tried 30 to 70 in third gear? -To be fair your power is moved up the rev range so your available power band suits second gear much better, and peak power will be good as long as theres enough exhaust gas in reserve to produce more boost. Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

Nov 1st, 2007, 06:53 PM	#149 (permalink)
kpgmini Boosting!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: whaaaapshhhh!!!!!!!! Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 16 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original) Hi kpg, yes IMHO that setup youve got judging by your RR printout on the ' I went to the dyno last light ' thread is going to be seriously laggy on the road. I'll put up some spool up comparisons with our GTT300T conversions in the near future. Have you tried 30 to 70 in third gear? -To be fair your power is moved up the rev range so your available power band suits second gear much better, and peak power will be good as long as theres enough exhaust gas in reserve to produce more boost. Best Regards Roland GTT yeah...3rd gear sucks at 30-70...im gonna try 2nd gear tonight... 20psi 314whp 240ft lbs

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Oct 28th, 2007, 06:17 PM	#142 (permalink)
Jaw_F430 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 7600rpm Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 735 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original) they have been shipped all over the world Where do I get one from and how much then? Can I import it myself as should be quite cheap if I buy it in US dollars Regards James

Oct 30th, 2007, 05:31 PM	#145 (permalink)
badboyzbadboyz MINI2 Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 1,238 Offline	Great thread, it nice to see a measurement of usable power. I tried this in my Golf TDI to see how it compares. Mk4 Golf TDI 130 185 bhp (approx after remap) 325 lb/ft (approx after remap) 1. 5.97 2. 6.12 3. 6.01 4. 5.87 Average: 5.99 Its not a true comparison (due to the difference in gear ratios etc) but I thought I would put the results up anyway.

Oct 31st, 2007, 10:08 PM	#146 (permalink)
Jaw_F430 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 7600rpm Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 735 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original) Hey Guys, Please can people post up your 30-70mph times in 3rd gear with a basic spec/HP of your MINI. I'm very interested to see how everyone compares as this will test low end/mid range torque which is what we really use everyday instead of outright drag stripe HP. The idea is to read dead on 30mph and then floor it to 70mph. These can easily be taken on any straight flat piece of national speed limit road with a stop watch and using the OBC read out. Please no slip roads as it can be dangerous and most of them either go up or down hill. Mine was taken from the average of 4 runs rather than the fastest: GTT 230+ with a couple of extra mods - 6.2seconds Thanks Current Standings: Cooper S: 1320autos : 5.56 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3202066 MINI-Morgan : 5.77 http://www.mini2.com/forum/3197590-post69.html BigShow : 6.075 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3191861 Jaw_F430 : 6.05 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3197886 BRMcooper : 6.08 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3196424 Fisher: 6.35 http://www.mini2.com/forum/3197190-post61.html Aberdeen Al : 6.9 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3194659 beatbox : 7.05 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3192805 Cooper: minicabrio : 9.2 http://www.mini2.com/forum/3195260-post41.html Move me up one mini-morgan Cooper S: 1320autos : 5.56 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3202066 MINI-Morgan : 5.77 http://www.mini2.com/forum/3197590-post69.html BigShow : 6.075 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3191861 Jaw_F430 : 6.05 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3197886 Regards James

Nov 1st, 2007, 07:03 PM	#150 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by kpgmini (original) yeah...3rd gear sucks at 30-70...im gonna try 2nd gear tonight... Cant wait, can we have video as well Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Nov 1st, 2007, 07:28 PM	#151 (permalink)
kpgmini Boosting!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: whaaaapshhhh!!!!!!!! Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 16 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) Cant wait, can we have video as well no vid.. my camera sucks! 20psi 314whp 240ft lbs

Nov 1st, 2007, 07:33 PM	#152 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	No worries, where's Tuls when u need him I would rather you spend money on inectors / fuel rail before a camera Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Nov 1st, 2007, 07:35 PM	#153 (permalink)
kpgmini Boosting!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: whaaaapshhhh!!!!!!!! Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 16 Offline	yeah.. me too..lol 20psi 314whp 240ft lbs

Nov 2nd, 2007, 12:32 AM	#154 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	The Mini now has 17 inch wheels on with 205 40 and a nice quiet 06 Cooper exhaust on. 3300 -6800 in 2nd 3.46 30 -70 using 2nd and 3rd 5.12 30 - 70 3rd gear 6.11,6.04 2800 -6800 3rd gear 8.17, 8.26 Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Nov 2nd, 2007, 01:21 AM	#155 (permalink)
kpgmini Boosting!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: whaaaapshhhh!!!!!!!! Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 16 Offline	what's your top speed on 2nd? 20psi 314whp 240ft lbs

Nov 2nd, 2007, 01:43 AM	#156 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	63mph @ 6850, would of been a lot more if that ecu had got back to the UK. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Nov 2nd, 2007, 10:12 PM	#157 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original) Move me up one mini-morgan Cooper S: 1320autos : 5.56 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3202066 MINI-Morgan : 5.77 http://www.mini2.com/forum/3197590-post69.html BigShow : 6.075 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3191861 Jaw_F430 : 6.05 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3197886 Regards James Whoopss! my bad One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Nov 2nd, 2007, 10:30 PM	#158 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) No worries, where's Tuls when u need him I would rather you spend money on inectors / fuel rail before a camera Would love to see Tuls do the 30-70 too! And others like Trickle One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Nov 2nd, 2007, 10:42 PM	#159 (permalink)
Jaw_F430 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 7600rpm Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 735 Offline	Had a R56 mini one for the last 3 days since I have had my car in at the dealers for warranty work so just thought I would test the 30-70 time so here is the result: Three runs carried out and the average was 13.13 seconds!!! Got my car back today and it feels soooo fast lol Regards James

Nov 2nd, 2007, 11:05 PM	#160 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original) Had a R56 mini one for the last 3 days since I have had my car in at the dealers for warranty work so just thought I would test the 30-70 time so here is the result: Three runs carried out and the average was 13.13 seconds!!! Got my car back today and it feels soooo fast lol Regards James ROTFLMAO I had to read that twice I wasn't sure whether it was 3.13 or 13.13, I assumed that it was an S R56 you were driving not a One Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

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