[MINI-Morgan]

Hey Guys,

Please can people post up your 30-70mph times in 3rd gear with a basic spec/HP of your MINI. I'm very interested to see how everyone compares as this will test low end/mid range torque which is what we really use everyday instead of outright drag stripe HP. The idea is to read dead on 30mph and then floor it to 70mph.

These can easily be taken on any straight flat piece of national speed limit road with a stop watch and using the OBC read out. Please no slip roads as it can be dangerous and most of them either go up or down hill.

Mine was taken from the average of 4 runs rather than the fastest:

GTT 230+ with a couple of extra mods - 6.2seconds

Thanks

gb means GearBox..

Current Standings:

Cooper S:
Tuls : 4.62 (04gb, TwinCharge 400HP)
roland2003 : 4.85 (GTT300T, head and cams)
Loui : 5.03 (05gb, 15%)
Snowie : 5.1 (06gb, GP + mods)
1320autos : 5.2 (05gb, 17% pulley,manifold, JCW Injectors)
BigShow : 5.6 (03gb, 280hp+, manifold)
roland2003 : 5.7 (customers 05gb, GTT220, GRS Intercooler, GTT Manifold)
BRMcooper : 5.7 (05gb, 15%, manifold)
MINI-Morgan : 5.77 (05gb, GTT230, manifold)
lucachiarelli : 5.84 (06gb, 15%, gtt manifold+intercooler, crank)
Cooper_Sport : 5.86 (05gb, 17% / GTT220, GRS intercooler)
k m s: 5.94 (05gb, GTT220, manifold, intercooler, injectors)
Jaw_F430 : 6.05 (05gb,15%,Bigger I/C +other mods)
MiniPetrolHead : 6.1 (05gb)
Edenalig : 6.15 (02gb, 15%, MTH, Alta CAI, Manifold, Miltek)
sam_a156 : 6.2(05gb, JCW, manifold, +3% Crank, intercooler)
Fisher: 6.35 (02gb, cams)
Miss Lottie: 6.4 (R56 Stock)
Aberdeen Al : 6.9 (03gb, GTT220, intercooler, manifold)
beatbox : 7.05 (04gb, JCW210, intercooler)
Hyper Active: 7.17 (05gb, lightwheels but stock)


Cooper:

minicabrio : 9.2

One

Jaw_F430: 13.13 (R56 One)

[1320autos]

Excellent idea apart from the stop watch / human element.

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Excellent idea apart from the stop watch / human element.

True but I couldnt think of another accurate way which enough people would be able to do. Also if people average their times it shouldnt be tooooo bad.

I'm certainly interested to see the difference to stock....

[roland2003]

Early v late cars have different gearing, also tyre & wheel size. We had 205/40-17, now on 215/45-17; the gearing is noticably different. Still its better than 0-60 IMHO

[Aberdeen Al]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Early v late cars have different gearing, also tyre & wheel size. We had 205/40-17, now on 215/45-17; the gearing is noticably different. Still its better than 0-60 IMHO

In what way does the different tyres 0 - 60 or 30 - 70?

(Just asking out of interest )

[minicabrio]

Quote: Originally Posted by Aberdeen Al (original)

In what way does the different tyres 0 - 60 or 30 - 70?

(Just asking out of interest )

The wheel and tyre combination will alter the overal diameter of the wheel... the smaller the wheels diamter, the faster it rotates, and the better the acceleration Also wheel weights will affect this

[BigShow300]

2003 MCS Lohen 225 + Janspeed & Teflon blower.
215/40/17 tyres.
Back seats removed.
3/4 tank of gas.

1st Run: 6.0
2nd Run: 6.4
3rd Run: 5.8
4th Run: 6.1

Avg: 6.075

[beatbox]

2004 210JCW with GRS cooler
1/2 tank fuel
215/35/18 tyres.

average of 4 runs 7.05 seconds,thats taken by cruising at 30 then flooring it.

times from 35 to 75mph are quicker, 6.4 seconds average. I seem to have a slow pick up around the 30 to 35mph.

Seems like i need a Lightweight oversized crank pulley:

Does anybody know who can fit one in the north east area,GTT is a long way to go.

[BigShow300]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Early v late cars have different gearing, also tyre & wheel size. We had 205/40-17, now on 215/45-17; the gearing is noticably different. Still its better than 0-60 IMHO

So do you think the early or late cars will be quickest?? Mine picks up really well in 3rd and I was quite shocked at how well to be honest, it's certainly loving the cold air at the moment

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

2003 MCS Lohen 225 + Janspeed & Teflon blower.
215/40/17 tyres.
Back seats removed.
3/4 tank of gas.

1st Run: 6.0
2nd Run: 6.4
3rd Run: 5.8
4th Run: 6.1

Avg: 6.075

Some good times guys!

I really need to do a couple more runs now I have my new manifold on and now i'm back with the Tesco 99. Need to keep the variables as similar as possible.....

I did a run the other night with someone else in the car and timed 6.0 but only timed once so not as accurate.

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

So do you think the early or late cars will be quickest?? Mine picks up really well in 3rd and I was quite shocked at how well to be honest, it's certainly loving the cold air at the moment

This could be a difference we cant account too much for..... what temp was it?

Mine being a facelift picks up really well too but the difference between them on the road doesnt seem to be too much.

[BigShow300]

I know the 0-100 times dropped significantly on the facelift cars.

Temp was 12 degrees C and I was running V-Power which I've only started using. Pre 225 upgrade I used Tesco 99 as the car seemed to run better on it but Lohen said to go with V-Power when I spoke to them last week... might try a few tanks of 99 and re-run.

I also made sure I let the car cool down with a nice run before conducting the next time run as it seemed to help.

[1320autos]

205/50-15 and 05 gearbox with lsd / quaife is probably perfection, alsobeing light as possible will help.

Might get a chance to play tomorrowdepending on the weather

[2 much]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

I know the 0-100 times dropped significantly on the facelift cars.

Temp was 12 degrees C and I was running V-Power which I've only started using. Pre 225 upgrade I used Tesco 99 as the car seemed to run better on it but Lohen said to go with V-Power when I spoke to them last week... might try a few tanks of 99 and re-run.

I also made sure I let the car cool down with a nice run before conducting the next time run as it seemed to help.

how did bmw make it slower to hundred but claim the face lift car got to 60 faster

[BigShow300]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2 much (original)

how did bmw make it slower to hundred but claim the face lift car got to 60 faster

Autocar tested the facelift car:

0-60 7.1 secs
0-100 18.5 secs
30-70 6.5 secs

I think the pre-facelift cars were doing 0-100 in about 20.5 secs.

Autocar tests its 30-70 time through the gears rather than in 3rd so by having the benchmark figure above maybe we should do the same. I'll try it in 2nd tomorrow and see what times I can post.

[MINI-Morgan]

I'd be on the rev limiter if I try it in second for sure.... I did do some 20-60mph tests which if I remember correct were around 4.5secs or less.

That 6.5 is suprisingly low for a standard car!

Problem is the smaller the time the more human error will be visible.....

4th gear 40-80 would be a good test too for torque.

I believe the facelift model lost quite a bit of ignition advance from the mid to high revs.

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

205/50-15 and 05 gearbox with lsd / quaife is probably perfection, alsobeing light as possible will help.

Might get a chance to play tomorrowdepending on the weather

Would love to see your times with the NOS on! lol! 4.5secs? haha

[1320autos]

Mmmm I can actually set it to come on at 30mph and switch off at 70mph in 3rd and the data logger would record the time it takes

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Mmmm I can actually set it to come on at 30mph and switch off at 70mph in 3rd and the data logger would record the time it takes

Jealous already

[adamos o3,cooper s]

at last, someone has realised that 30 - 70mph, and 70 -90mph, far more important than, rolling road bhp, 15% pulley v 17% etc etc.
post GTT 230, Manifold, milltek back box. the car is absolutely awesome, on the motorway, keeping up with traffic flow, it is effortless at 70mph, in 6th gear, drop it down and the approx 177bhp per ton, really comes into it's own. the mini is all about power to weight ratio, add super handling and you are in lotus Elise territory.