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Mess · Oct 17th, 2007, 08:16 PM

Hi, Ive just got some new Iridium spark plugs (BKR7EIX) and wanting to change them over the weekend.

I want to know is it just a simple case of pulling the old out and in with the new? Or do i need a degree in mechanics and spark plug development & history? Do they need Gapping? and i dont have a socket set so can i do it with a simple spanner?

Also what do these pictures mean on the side of 1 of the plug boxes? No.2 in particular.

Thanks

Buz999 · Oct 17th, 2007, 09:49 PM

Its a simple job but impossible for you and your spanner as you will need a plug socket!

Mess · Oct 17th, 2007, 10:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Buz999 (original)

Its a simple job but impossible for you and your spanner as you will need a plug socket!

so if i get a plug socket is it then just a case of taking the others out and put the new 1 in, 1 at a time?

AlexBRGCooper · Oct 17th, 2007, 10:46 PM

Yup one at a time. The rubber HT lead cover pulls off with a bit of persuasion. You'll need a 16mm socket. I've got one if you want to wait a couple of weeks to borrow it? If you can't wait one will set you back about £15

edit - put them back in hand tight and nip about 1/16th of a turn. I think its 22nm if you have a torque wrench

roland2003 · Oct 18th, 2007, 09:35 AM

Hi Guys, check out the next edition of Modern Mini mag. There's a GTT guide to fitting plugs in there, with pics.

Richard Crofts · Oct 18th, 2007, 11:17 AM

Yep its a simple 1 replaces one job out of the box (well my NGK irridium range 7 ones were) The gap out of the box was so close to the haynes manual measurements I didn't change the gap.

roland2003 · Oct 18th, 2007, 11:24 AM

The 3 things 9/10 people forget to do are:-
1) Tighten them up sufficiently (They undo & strip the threads if you dont)
2) Copper slip the threads (they sieze in the head if you dont)
3) Use Dielectric grease on the nipple. (without it the leads are impossible to remove if left a long time ...can end in the connector at the end of the lead breaking off and leaving it behind on the plug)
Simple jobs done incorrectly can cause major expensive problems.
Best Regards Roland GTT

Mess · Oct 18th, 2007, 01:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

The 3 things 9/10 people forget to do are:-
1) Tighten them up sufficiently (They undo & strip the threads if you dont)
2) Copper slip the threads (they sieze in the head if you dont)
3) Use Dielectric grease on the nipple. (without it the leads are impossible to remove if left a long time ...can end in the connector at the end of the lead breaking off and leaving it behind on the plug)
Simple jobs done incorrectly can cause major expensive problems.
Best Regards Roland GTT

Rolland what do you mean by cooper slip the threads?

Sorry for all the questions but id rather learn how to do this my self rather than pay someone 60 quid to do it.

AlexBRGCooper · Oct 18th, 2007, 01:13 PM

Does what it says on the tin! I've got some of this as well.

Get an old paintbrush [or your fingers] and run it around the thread before you put the plug in. I've never used grease on nipple [rhubarb] so there's something I've learned.

Mess · Oct 18th, 2007, 02:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBRGCooper (original)

Does what it says on the tin! I've got some of this as well.

Get an old paintbrush [or your fingers] and run it around the thread before you put the plug in. I've never used grease on nipple [rhubarb] so there's something I've learned.

Alex can i come to yours and borrow your tool shed?

AlexBRGCooper · Oct 18th, 2007, 04:25 PM

My boot is my tool shed! It goes where I go, like some kind of new age traveller

its also probably why I'm the slowest out on runs as my car weighs twice as much as everyone elses

Mess · Oct 21st, 2007, 03:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBRGCooper (original)

My boot is my tool shed! It goes where I go, like some kind of new age traveller

its also probably why I'm the slowest out on runs as my car weighs twice as much as everyone elses

lol that might explain the speed issue

Got them changed on Saturday. A big thank you to Marcy for the help.

What a change in the drive of the car with them changed. Better fuel consumption. Gone from a measly 30mpg to a massive 35-37mpg, depending on how heavy my foot is. And if i took it easier im sure it will go higher still.

Car is smoother to drive aswell, it seems to pull better when my foot goes down and accelerates easier. A real good change.

Would recommend changing the plugs to any one now.

MINIdriver85 · Oct 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM

I was wondering...on a modded MINI ONE, would you get oem spark plugs or would you recommend something different?

Take into account that I'm going to fit sport manifold, complete cat-back exhaust, Gruppe M airbox, Shrick cams, ported head (possibly with larger exhaust valves) and obviously a remap.

Mess · Oct 30th, 2007, 04:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIdriver85 (original)

I was wondering...on a modded MINI ONE, would you get oem spark plugs or would you recommend something different?

Take into account that I'm going to fit sport manifold, complete cat-back exhaust, Gruppe M airbox, Shrick cams, ported head (possibly with larger exhaust valves) and obviously a remap.

With those engine mods i deffo recommend changing to the iridium plugs. they will then be able to cope with the extra heat generated in your engine more easily.

MINIdriver85 · Oct 30th, 2007, 04:34 PM

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll keep it in mind for when I fit these things on my engine (not all together, but still...)

Oct 17th, 2007, 08:16 PM	#1
Mess Go Go Gadget Mini Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 729 Online	Change Spark Plugs Hi, Ive just got some new Iridium spark plugs (BKR7EIX) and wanting to change them over the weekend. I want to know is it just a simple case of pulling the old out and in with the new? Or do i need a degree in mechanics and spark plug development & history? Do they need Gapping? and i dont have a socket set so can i do it with a simple spanner? Also what do these pictures mean on the side of 1 of the plug boxes? No.2 in particular. Thanks

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roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 2,731 Offline	Hi Guys, check out the next edition of Modern Mini mag. There's a GTT guide to fitting plugs in there, with pics. www.gttuning.com

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roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 2,731 Offline	The 3 things 9/10 people forget to do are:- 1) Tighten them up sufficiently (They undo & strip the threads if you dont) 2) Copper slip the threads (they sieze in the head if you dont) 3) Use Dielectric grease on the nipple. (without it the leads are impossible to remove if left a long time ...can end in the connector at the end of the lead breaking off and leaving it behind on the plug) Simple jobs done incorrectly can cause major expensive problems. Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

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Oct 17th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Buz999 What mod next? Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ludlow,Shropshire Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 248 Offline	Its a simple job but impossible for you and your spanner as you will need a plug socket!

Oct 17th, 2007, 10:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mess Go Go Gadget Mini Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 729 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Buz999 (original) Its a simple job but impossible for you and your spanner as you will need a plug socket! so if i get a plug socket is it then just a case of taking the others out and put the new 1 in, 1 at a time?

Oct 17th, 2007, 10:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
AlexBRGCooper British Racing Dirt Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sunny Sunderland Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 523 Online	Yup one at a time. The rubber HT lead cover pulls off with a bit of persuasion. You'll need a 16mm socket. I've got one if you want to wait a couple of weeks to borrow it? If you can't wait one will set you back about £15 edit - put them back in hand tight and nip about 1/16th of a turn. I think its 22nm if you have a torque wrench

Oct 18th, 2007, 11:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	Yep its a simple 1 replaces one job out of the box (well my NGK irridium range 7 ones were) The gap out of the box was so close to the haynes manual measurements I didn't change the gap.

Oct 18th, 2007, 01:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mess Go Go Gadget Mini Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 729 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original) The 3 things 9/10 people forget to do are:- 1) Tighten them up sufficiently (They undo & strip the threads if you dont) 2) Copper slip the threads (they sieze in the head if you dont) 3) Use Dielectric grease on the nipple. (without it the leads are impossible to remove if left a long time ...can end in the connector at the end of the lead breaking off and leaving it behind on the plug) Simple jobs done incorrectly can cause major expensive problems. Best Regards Roland GTT Rolland what do you mean by cooper slip the threads? Sorry for all the questions but id rather learn how to do this my self rather than pay someone 60 quid to do it.

Oct 18th, 2007, 01:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
AlexBRGCooper British Racing Dirt Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sunny Sunderland Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 523 Online	Does what it says on the tin! I've got some of this as well. Get an old paintbrush [or your fingers] and run it around the thread before you put the plug in. I've never used grease on nipple [rhubarb] so there's something I've learned.

Oct 18th, 2007, 02:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mess Go Go Gadget Mini Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 729 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBRGCooper (original) Does what it says on the tin! I've got some of this as well. Get an old paintbrush [or your fingers] and run it around the thread before you put the plug in. I've never used grease on nipple [rhubarb] so there's something I've learned. Alex can i come to yours and borrow your tool shed?

Oct 18th, 2007, 04:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
AlexBRGCooper British Racing Dirt Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sunny Sunderland Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 523 Online	My boot is my tool shed! It goes where I go, like some kind of new age traveller its also probably why I'm the slowest out on runs as my car weighs twice as much as everyone elses

Oct 21st, 2007, 03:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mess Go Go Gadget Mini Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 729 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBRGCooper (original) My boot is my tool shed! It goes where I go, like some kind of new age traveller its also probably why I'm the slowest out on runs as my car weighs twice as much as everyone elses lol that might explain the speed issue Got them changed on Saturday. A big thank you to Marcy for the help. What a change in the drive of the car with them changed. Better fuel consumption. Gone from a measly 30mpg to a massive 35-37mpg, depending on how heavy my foot is. And if i took it easier im sure it will go higher still. Car is smoother to drive aswell, it seems to pull better when my foot goes down and accelerates easier. A real good change. Would recommend changing the plugs to any one now.

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Oct 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
MINIdriver85 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 247 Offline	I was wondering...on a modded MINI ONE, would you get oem spark plugs or would you recommend something different? Take into account that I'm going to fit sport manifold, complete cat-back exhaust, Gruppe M airbox, Shrick cams, ported head (possibly with larger exhaust valves) and obviously a remap.

Oct 30th, 2007, 04:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mess Go Go Gadget Mini Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 729 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIdriver85 (original) I was wondering...on a modded MINI ONE, would you get oem spark plugs or would you recommend something different? Take into account that I'm going to fit sport manifold, complete cat-back exhaust, Gruppe M airbox, Shrick cams, ported head (possibly with larger exhaust valves) and obviously a remap. With those engine mods i deffo recommend changing to the iridium plugs. they will then be able to cope with the extra heat generated in your engine more easily.

Oct 30th, 2007, 04:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
MINIdriver85 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 247 Offline	Thanks for the suggestion, I'll keep it in mind for when I fit these things on my engine (not all together, but still...)