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1320autos · Oct 23rd, 2007, 01:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/user/nmercuro

Revolution Mini Works · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

http://www.youtube.com/user/nmercuro

we should have more video of this at the next track day on Nov16th....

the stroker car laid down an even faster time than this car..... with a much poorer driver...me

hoojkel · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:07 PM

Not sure whats happening on that vid but i'd say the guy in the Atom is playing with the mini. The atom weighs only about 500kg and has around 220-225bhp. I watched a vid somewhere online recently about the fastest 0-60 world record and there was a guy in an Atom who blew everyone away, he was posting times of around 2.75 secs, the world record is about 2.6 or something close and it was a standard Atom. He did manage to blow the engine though!!

FergusM · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by hoojkel (original)

Not sure whats happening on that vid but i'd say the guy in the Atom is playing with the mini. The atom weighs only about 500kg and has around 220-225bhp. I watched a vid somewhere online recently about the fastest 0-60 world record and there was a guy in an Atom who blew everyone away, he was posting times of around 2.75 secs, the world record is about 2.6 or something close and it was a standard Atom. He did manage to blow the engine though!!

Was not the engine that blew...was the clutch !

Bhozar · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:11 PM

Nice vid. Nice to see a MINI keeping in front of an Atom. I wouldnt have expected that.

How about 230whp and who-knows-what-tq.

Whos done the tuning? Is it one of Jans?

hoojkel · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:12 PM

something blew, can't remember, could well have been the clutch that went!!!!

Bhozar · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

Whos done the tuning? Is it one of Jans?

Post #2 answered that question!

hoojkel · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:12 PM

theres also a 300bhp engine for the atom

Revolution Mini Works · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

Nice vid. Nice to see a MINI keeping in front of an Atom. I wouldnt have expected that.

How about 230whp and who-knows-what-tq.

Whos done the tuning? Is it one of Jans?

it's tuned now.... it wasn't even tuned there....

he will be back now with 8k redline and plenty of fuel

Bhozar · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original)

it's tuned now.... it wasn't even tuned there....

he will be back now with 8k redline and plenty of fuel

What were the mods?

Revolution Mini Works · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

What were the mods?

RMW head/header
15% pulley
CAI
experimental laminova w2air prototype

ratbag98 · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:29 PM

The Ariel's playing with the Mini or the driver is pathologically opposed to doing any of that scary over-taking stuff. Any corner/straight of the track, the Atom would be able to blitz the Mini:

Non-supercharged Atom2 is 220BHP, 456Kgs = 482 BHP/tonne (ugh, sorry about the units)
MCS 175BHP, 1200Kgs = 145 BHP/tonne

Maybe there's a state of tune for an MCS that could bridge that gap, but I doubt it would be happy on a track with bends.

Revolution Mini Works · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ratbag98 (original)

The Ariel's playing with the Mini or the driver is pathologically opposed to doing any of that scary over-taking stuff. Any corner/straight of the track, the Atom would be able to blitz the Mini:

Non-supercharged Atom2 is 220BHP, 456Kgs = 482 BHP/tonne (ugh, sorry about the units)
MCS 175BHP, 1200Kgs = 145 BHP/tonne

Maybe there's a state of tune for an MCS that could bridge that gap, but I doubt it would be happy on a track with bends.

of course an atom is faster, driving still counts
what you don't see on the film is Danny driving all over the top of him before he finally waves him by. We both ran faster lap times than 3 of the 4 aerial atoms that were there. Of course our times were the fastest that the track operators had ever seen in a Mini... so go figure

ratbag98 · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:42 PM

No doubt the driver has a huge role to play. In this case, I think this Atom driver was responsible for about 500kg of performance difference

. Which is not to belittle your tuning or yours or Danny's driving.

Incidentally, I used the weight for the R56 MCS since I don't have the older model's weight to hand. Anyone know it off-hand?

Revolution Mini Works · Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ratbag98 (original)

No doubt the driver has a huge role to play. In this case, I think this Atom driver was responsible for about 500kg of performance difference

. Which is not to belittle your tuning or yours or Danny's driving.

no worries... non taken

we laugh about all of these expensive cars on the track.... I lapped a 997 turbo in a session

MINI-Morgan · Oct 23rd, 2007, 06:13 PM

Looks like he isnt really even touching the throttle on the Atom.... Would be interesting to see it being driven fast around the track.

Sounds a bit like its supercharged too when he actually accelerates.

Ant FR · Oct 23rd, 2007, 06:51 PM

the Atom has never hit 0-60 in 2.6 secs. the record attempt they did recently at Trax i was there, and the guy driving was a goon, best was 3.07 to 60 in one direction, the wind behind it too surprisingly. so it did'nt count as oficial as not both ways. he melted the clutch. That was a supercharged one which is nye on 300bhp. Civic type-r engine with a jackson supercharger from memory

Oh and if you really want to see a fast 0-60 time then my mates dad's Mk6 Ford Fiesta does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds now that is fast, although he is the ex-rallycross champion hich explains it.

MarkW · Oct 23rd, 2007, 08:38 PM

would that be Pat Doran? seen his festa break at Ford Fair doing 0-60's

Ant FR · Oct 24th, 2007, 07:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkXR (original)

would that be Pat Doran? seen his festa break at Ford Fair doing 0-60's

Yep, sure is, althought that was'nt pat dorans fiesta, that was his son liam's who is now setting similar times and in some cases beating him in his own mk6 fiesta and thats just rear wheel drive. I'd love a road going version. in fact there is a standard mk6 fiesta 4 door running 550 bhp, and it is quick and stealth

Mk 6 Fiesta Cosworth at Bruntingthorpe

hoojkel · Oct 24th, 2007, 09:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

the Atom has never hit 0-60 in 2.6 secs. the record attempt they did recently at Trax i was there, and the guy driving was a goon, best was 3.07 to 60 in one direction, the wind behind it too surprisingly. so it did'nt count as oficial as not both ways. he melted the clutch. That was a supercharged one which is nye on 300bhp. Civic type-r engine with a jackson supercharger from memory

Oh and if you really want to see a fast 0-60 time then my mates dad's Mk6 Ford Fiesta does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds now that is fast, although he is the ex-rallycross champion hich explains it.

Never said the Atom hit 2.6. I believe the existing record was something like that and I thought the guy was running close to that in his Atom. His average over the 2 runs probably was 3.07 but doesn't mean to say one of those runs wasn't below 3 secs!!

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Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 09:30 AM Posts: 940 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) http://www.youtube.com/user/nmercuro we should have more video of this at the next track day on Nov16th.... the stroker car laid down an even faster time than this car..... with a much poorer driver...me

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
hoojkel MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Belfast Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 403 Offline	Not sure whats happening on that vid but i'd say the guy in the Atom is playing with the mini. The atom weighs only about 500kg and has around 220-225bhp. I watched a vid somewhere online recently about the fastest 0-60 world record and there was a guy in an Atom who blew everyone away, he was posting times of around 2.75 secs, the world record is about 2.6 or something close and it was a standard Atom. He did manage to blow the engine though!!

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
FergusM MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Glasgow Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 697 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by hoojkel (original) Not sure whats happening on that vid but i'd say the guy in the Atom is playing with the mini. The atom weighs only about 500kg and has around 220-225bhp. I watched a vid somewhere online recently about the fastest 0-60 world record and there was a guy in an Atom who blew everyone away, he was posting times of around 2.75 secs, the world record is about 2.6 or something close and it was a standard Atom. He did manage to blow the engine though!! Was not the engine that blew...was the clutch !

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 1,236 Offline	Nice vid. Nice to see a MINI keeping in front of an Atom. I wouldnt have expected that. How about 230whp and who-knows-what-tq. Whos done the tuning? Is it one of Jans?

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
hoojkel MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Belfast Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 403 Offline	something blew, can't remember, could well have been the clutch that went!!!!

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 1,236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original) Whos done the tuning? Is it one of Jans? Post #2 answered that question!

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
hoojkel MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Belfast Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 403 Offline	theres also a 300bhp engine for the atom

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 09:30 AM Posts: 940 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original) Nice vid. Nice to see a MINI keeping in front of an Atom. I wouldnt have expected that. How about 230whp and who-knows-what-tq. Whos done the tuning? Is it one of Jans? it's tuned now.... it wasn't even tuned there.... he will be back now with 8k redline and plenty of fuel

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 1,236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original) it's tuned now.... it wasn't even tuned there.... he will be back now with 8k redline and plenty of fuel What were the mods?

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 09:30 AM Posts: 940 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original) What were the mods? RMW head/header 15% pulley CAI experimental laminova w2air prototype

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
ratbag98 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Near Cranbrook, Kent Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 84 Offline	The Ariel's playing with the Mini or the driver is pathologically opposed to doing any of that scary over-taking stuff. Any corner/straight of the track, the Atom would be able to blitz the Mini: Non-supercharged Atom2 is 220BHP, 456Kgs = 482 BHP/tonne (ugh, sorry about the units) MCS 175BHP, 1200Kgs = 145 BHP/tonne Maybe there's a state of tune for an MCS that could bridge that gap, but I doubt it would be happy on a track with bends.

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 09:30 AM Posts: 940 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ratbag98 (original) The Ariel's playing with the Mini or the driver is pathologically opposed to doing any of that scary over-taking stuff. Any corner/straight of the track, the Atom would be able to blitz the Mini: Non-supercharged Atom2 is 220BHP, 456Kgs = 482 BHP/tonne (ugh, sorry about the units) MCS 175BHP, 1200Kgs = 145 BHP/tonne Maybe there's a state of tune for an MCS that could bridge that gap, but I doubt it would be happy on a track with bends. of course an atom is faster, driving still counts what you don't see on the film is Danny driving all over the top of him before he finally waves him by. We both ran faster lap times than 3 of the 4 aerial atoms that were there. Of course our times were the fastest that the track operators had ever seen in a Mini... so go figure

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
ratbag98 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Near Cranbrook, Kent Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 84 Offline	No doubt the driver has a huge role to play. In this case, I think this Atom driver was responsible for about 500kg of performance difference . Which is not to belittle your tuning or yours or Danny's driving. Incidentally, I used the weight for the R56 MCS since I don't have the older model's weight to hand. Anyone know it off-hand?

Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 09:30 AM Posts: 940 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ratbag98 (original) No doubt the driver has a huge role to play. In this case, I think this Atom driver was responsible for about 500kg of performance difference . Which is not to belittle your tuning or yours or Danny's driving. no worries... non taken we laugh about all of these expensive cars on the track.... I lapped a 997 turbo in a session

Oct 23rd, 2007, 06:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 1,893 Offline	the Atom has never hit 0-60 in 2.6 secs. the record attempt they did recently at Trax i was there, and the guy driving was a goon, best was 3.07 to 60 in one direction, the wind behind it too surprisingly. so it did'nt count as oficial as not both ways. he melted the clutch. That was a supercharged one which is nye on 300bhp. Civic type-r engine with a jackson supercharger from memory Oh and if you really want to see a fast 0-60 time then my mates dad's Mk6 Ford Fiesta does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds now that is fast, although he is the ex-rallycross champion hich explains it.

Oct 23rd, 2007, 08:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
MarkW XR3i / JCW MCS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Full Throttle Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 370 Online	would that be Pat Doran? seen his festa break at Ford Fair doing 0-60's

Oct 24th, 2007, 07:19 AM	#19 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 1,893 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkXR (original) would that be Pat Doran? seen his festa break at Ford Fair doing 0-60's Yep, sure is, althought that was'nt pat dorans fiesta, that was his son liam's who is now setting similar times and in some cases beating him in his own mk6 fiesta and thats just rear wheel drive. I'd love a road going version. in fact there is a standard mk6 fiesta 4 door running 550 bhp, and it is quick and stealth Mk 6 Fiesta Cosworth at Bruntingthorpe

Oct 24th, 2007, 09:02 AM	#20 (permalink)
hoojkel MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Belfast Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 403 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original) the Atom has never hit 0-60 in 2.6 secs. the record attempt they did recently at Trax i was there, and the guy driving was a goon, best was 3.07 to 60 in one direction, the wind behind it too surprisingly. so it did'nt count as oficial as not both ways. he melted the clutch. That was a supercharged one which is nye on 300bhp. Civic type-r engine with a jackson supercharger from memory Oh and if you really want to see a fast 0-60 time then my mates dad's Mk6 Ford Fiesta does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds now that is fast, although he is the ex-rallycross champion hich explains it. Never said the Atom hit 2.6. I believe the existing record was something like that and I thought the guy was running close to that in his Atom. His average over the 2 runs probably was 3.07 but doesn't mean to say one of those runs wasn't below 3 secs!!

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