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JCW_MC · Oct 25th, 2007, 06:42 PM

Are there any company's that can fit a turbo to a cooper. I dont want to buy an S and my cooper is already a show car so i want to do something different. I reckon a cooper s gearbox will do the job cause if it can handle 250bhp cooper s then it should be fine with a turbo cooper.

Nath316 · Oct 25th, 2007, 06:44 PM

I'd have a word with 1320 or Roland at GTT if I were you they are both members on here

Cooooooperslad · Oct 25th, 2007, 07:01 PM

turbo cooper sounds excellent! You'll probably change every part in the conversion that makes the difference between a Cooper and a Cooper S engine so can't see it making a difference which kit you start with?

Do it!

MINIAC · Oct 25th, 2007, 07:24 PM

MINI Mania UK offered Cooper /One turbo conversions over a year ago, but there was never a report that one was done:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...turbo-kit.html

JCW_MC · Oct 25th, 2007, 08:10 PM

thanks for the link.

just out of interest if you bought a cooper s engine and gearbox all in one. Would it be a striahgt bolt in job or would anything else need changed?

MINI-Morgan · Oct 25th, 2007, 08:18 PM

There are quite a few around and most of the companies do say the cooper will take 170+hp easily.

MINI TURBO

MINIAC · Oct 25th, 2007, 08:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

There are quite a few around and most of the companies do say the cooper will take 170+hp easily.

MINI TURBO

And yet I've never read anything on MINI2 about someone running one of these kits

Loui · Oct 25th, 2007, 08:57 PM

Fireballed do it again:

Can a COOPER... - motoring|underground

MINI-Morgan · Oct 26th, 2007, 10:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original)

And yet I've never read anything on MINI2 about someone running one of these kits

Ask yourself how many people on MINI2 have a turbo R50-53 at all......

Bound to be something on NAM im sure.

Now whos going to put their hands in their pockets first?? lol. 7-9 PSI is all you need for a nice little toy and much lighter than an S. Although I would aim low and just enjoy a nice torque curve instead of a cracked block.

sparkysmini · Oct 30th, 2007, 05:22 PM

you CAN do a s swap, i just did mine about a week ago, you will need engine ,trans, trans mounting, engine mounting, wiring harness, ecm, new hood, overflow res,axles, and a little wiring skill. IT WILL BE A STRAIGHT BOLT IN mounting holes and exhaust, (i have a 2005 convertible with a 2003 s engine+trans)

my battery didn't need to be moved, nor did i need new hubs

Ant FR · Oct 30th, 2007, 05:36 PM

if you lived in america there is a full R56 new shape turbo engine and gearbox for sale on ebay there, is in classifieds too.

Why has nobody yet whacked another engine in a mini shell. The only one i have seen is the rallycross 2.5 turbo one. But i reckon a 1.8t VAg engine would be great, or even better a cossie lump if you could get it to fit,

chuntington101 · Oct 31st, 2007, 08:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

Why has nobody yet whacked another engine in a mini shell. The only one i have seen is the rallycross 2.5 turbo one. But i reckon a 1.8t VAg engine would be great, or even better a cossie lump if you could get it to fit,

i was thinking the same thing!! i have seen, a few years ago now, a rallycross mini with a 2.0 Duratec engine in there. it was a spaceframe chassis though.lol have you got any more info on the 2.5turbo??

people will probably say that you can get over 500bhp from the mini engine, and you can, but its hard work and takes money. LOTS of money. but with something like the VAG unit you can get upto around 325bhp with bolt ons (inc a new turbo) and you dont evne have to open the engine. plus i think there are looms that let you run the engine standalone.

thanks Chris.

Ant FR · Oct 31st, 2007, 04:37 PM

yup heres the badboy, think it is spaceframe too

David Binks Rallycross Team

Yup, with the 1.8T it easily runs standalone, and the best bit is they are cheap as chips due to being used in so many cars.

when i have enough cash to run two cars i will be having a mk2 golf with 1.8t power

Paul Webster · Oct 31st, 2007, 05:36 PM

We have quite a few VAG converted Lotus come in for mapping on Emerald, which is a nice stand alone system.

Maybe we should look into engine transplants a bit more.

Richard Crofts · Oct 31st, 2007, 05:51 PM

But aRE WE TALKING front mount engine transplants in this case or mid/rear transplants? I think most would consider a front mount but not anything that steal the already at a premium interior space

MMC · Oct 31st, 2007, 07:03 PM

has anyone on here done this successfully

chuntington101 · Nov 1st, 2007, 08:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

yup heres the badboy, think it is spaceframe too

David Binks Rallycross Team

Yup, with the 1.8T it easily runs standalone, and the best bit is they are cheap as chips due to being used in so many cars.

when i have enough cash to run two cars i will be having a mk2 golf with 1.8t power

man that looks like a monster! cant tell if the engine is a BMW unit or a volvo plant though! still 2.5ltr and a turbo its going to make some power. i have allways liked the madnes of rally cross but its hard to find any info on it. any sites or links that might help me lurn more about the catorgries and rules????

so 1320 have we got you thinking??? maybe its time you guys built the fastest 1.8T powered mini! lol

Chris.

Ant FR · Nov 1st, 2007, 04:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by chuntington101 (original)

man that looks like a monster! cant tell if the engine is a BMW unit or a volvo plant though! still 2.5ltr and a turbo its going to make some power. i have allways liked the madnes of rally cross but its hard to find any info on it. any sites or links that might help me lurn more about the catorgries and rules????

so 1320 have we got you thinking??? maybe its time you guys built the fastest 1.8T powered mini! lol

Chris.

My mates dad is previously the British rallycross champ in a 500 bhp mk6 fiesta, my mate has a space framed mk6 fiesta rear wheel drive, was running 600 bhp but due to rear wheel drive is achieveing better results running a lower 350bhp,

Simply type British rallycross championships into google for a wealth of info. One of the best circuits for viewing is Lydden, which is not far from me in kent.

Ant FR · Nov 1st, 2007, 04:48 PM

As for the transplant, i don't see why it would be hard. Cost of a 1.8T engine is peanuts due to amount around, could use 5 speed gearbox from Ibiza to save space, intercooler will probably be last of worries, Engine is as reliable as you can get, internals are good for up to 350-400bhp as all come with forged pistons standard. If i had the time or money and more importantly space i would try it. But trouble is even wrecked minis are still worth something, although i still think you could do it for cheaper than having a mini engine turbo'd

Paul Webster · Nov 1st, 2007, 05:06 PM

I believe the lotus conversions are 9k drive in drive out.

I'm sure from a budget point off view most people will tackle turboing the Mini on their own eventually.

Some people make an awsome job off it as well

Ryephile.com - Turbo Project Part 1

Oct 25th, 2007, 06:42 PM	#1
JCW_MC I LOVE MY MINI My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N.IRELAND Local Time: 10:03 PM Posts: 146 Offline	turbo'd cooper Are there any company's that can fit a turbo to a cooper. I dont want to buy an S and my cooper is already a show car so i want to do something different. I reckon a cooper s gearbox will do the job cause if it can handle 250bhp cooper s then it should be fine with a turbo cooper.

Oct 25th, 2007, 06:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nath316 I'm avin 'oops Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rugby Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 1,086 Offline	I'd have a word with 1320 or Roland at GTT if I were you they are both members on here More Air + More Fuel = More Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oct 25th, 2007, 07:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cooooooperslad MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 579 Offline	turbo cooper sounds excellent! You'll probably change every part in the conversion that makes the difference between a Cooper and a Cooper S engine so can't see it making a difference which kit you start with? Do it! Follower of 1320autos + GTTuning

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MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	There are quite a few around and most of the companies do say the cooper will take 170+hp easily. MINI TURBO One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

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Oct 25th, 2007, 07:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:03 PM Posts: 8,617 Online	MINI Mania UK offered Cooper /One turbo conversions over a year ago, but there was never a report that one was done: http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...turbo-kit.html

Oct 25th, 2007, 08:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
JCW_MC I LOVE MY MINI My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N.IRELAND Local Time: 10:03 PM Posts: 146 Offline	thanks for the link. just out of interest if you bought a cooper s engine and gearbox all in one. Would it be a striahgt bolt in job or would anything else need changed?

Oct 25th, 2007, 08:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:03 PM Posts: 8,617 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original) There are quite a few around and most of the companies do say the cooper will take 170+hp easily. MINI TURBO And yet I've never read anything on MINI2 about someone running one of these kits

Oct 26th, 2007, 10:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original) And yet I've never read anything on MINI2 about someone running one of these kits Ask yourself how many people on MINI2 have a turbo R50-53 at all...... Bound to be something on NAM im sure. Now whos going to put their hands in their pockets first?? lol. 7-9 PSI is all you need for a nice little toy and much lighter than an S. Although I would aim low and just enjoy a nice torque curve instead of a cracked block. One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Oct 30th, 2007, 05:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
sparkysmini mr. pwrs Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Local Time: 04:03 PM Posts: 13 Offline	you CAN do a s swap, i just did mine about a week ago, you will need engine ,trans, trans mounting, engine mounting, wiring harness, ecm, new hood, overflow res,axles, and a little wiring skill. IT WILL BE A STRAIGHT BOLT IN mounting holes and exhaust, (i have a 2005 convertible with a 2003 s engine+trans) my battery didn't need to be moved, nor did i need new hubs

Oct 30th, 2007, 05:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	if you lived in america there is a full R56 new shape turbo engine and gearbox for sale on ebay there, is in classifieds too. Why has nobody yet whacked another engine in a mini shell. The only one i have seen is the rallycross 2.5 turbo one. But i reckon a 1.8t VAg engine would be great, or even better a cossie lump if you could get it to fit,

Oct 31st, 2007, 08:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
chuntington101 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 10:03 PM Posts: 119 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original) Why has nobody yet whacked another engine in a mini shell. The only one i have seen is the rallycross 2.5 turbo one. But i reckon a 1.8t VAg engine would be great, or even better a cossie lump if you could get it to fit, i was thinking the same thing!! i have seen, a few years ago now, a rallycross mini with a 2.0 Duratec engine in there. it was a spaceframe chassis though.lol have you got any more info on the 2.5turbo?? people will probably say that you can get over 500bhp from the mini engine, and you can, but its hard work and takes money. LOTS of money. but with something like the VAG unit you can get upto around 325bhp with bolt ons (inc a new turbo) and you dont evne have to open the engine. plus i think there are looms that let you run the engine standalone. thanks Chris.

Oct 31st, 2007, 04:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	yup heres the badboy, think it is spaceframe too David Binks Rallycross Team Yup, with the 1.8T it easily runs standalone, and the best bit is they are cheap as chips due to being used in so many cars. when i have enough cash to run two cars i will be having a mk2 golf with 1.8t power

Oct 31st, 2007, 05:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	We have quite a few VAG converted Lotus come in for mapping on Emerald, which is a nice stand alone system. Maybe we should look into engine transplants a bit more. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Oct 31st, 2007, 05:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	But aRE WE TALKING front mount engine transplants in this case or mid/rear transplants? I think most would consider a front mount but not anything that steal the already at a premium interior space

Oct 31st, 2007, 07:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
MMC MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 04:03 PM Posts: 12 Offline	has anyone on here done this successfully

Nov 1st, 2007, 08:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
chuntington101 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 10:03 PM Posts: 119 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original) yup heres the badboy, think it is spaceframe too David Binks Rallycross Team Yup, with the 1.8T it easily runs standalone, and the best bit is they are cheap as chips due to being used in so many cars. when i have enough cash to run two cars i will be having a mk2 golf with 1.8t power man that looks like a monster! cant tell if the engine is a BMW unit or a volvo plant though! still 2.5ltr and a turbo its going to make some power. i have allways liked the madnes of rally cross but its hard to find any info on it. any sites or links that might help me lurn more about the catorgries and rules???? so 1320 have we got you thinking??? maybe its time you guys built the fastest 1.8T powered mini! lol Chris.

Nov 1st, 2007, 04:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by chuntington101 (original) man that looks like a monster! cant tell if the engine is a BMW unit or a volvo plant though! still 2.5ltr and a turbo its going to make some power. i have allways liked the madnes of rally cross but its hard to find any info on it. any sites or links that might help me lurn more about the catorgries and rules???? so 1320 have we got you thinking??? maybe its time you guys built the fastest 1.8T powered mini! lol Chris. My mates dad is previously the British rallycross champ in a 500 bhp mk6 fiesta, my mate has a space framed mk6 fiesta rear wheel drive, was running 600 bhp but due to rear wheel drive is achieveing better results running a lower 350bhp, Simply type British rallycross championships into google for a wealth of info. One of the best circuits for viewing is Lydden, which is not far from me in kent.

Nov 1st, 2007, 04:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	As for the transplant, i don't see why it would be hard. Cost of a 1.8T engine is peanuts due to amount around, could use 5 speed gearbox from Ibiza to save space, intercooler will probably be last of worries, Engine is as reliable as you can get, internals are good for up to 350-400bhp as all come with forged pistons standard. If i had the time or money and more importantly space i would try it. But trouble is even wrecked minis are still worth something, although i still think you could do it for cheaper than having a mini engine turbo'd

Nov 1st, 2007, 05:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:03 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	I believe the lotus conversions are 9k drive in drive out. I'm sure from a budget point off view most people will tackle turboing the Mini on their own eventually. Some people make an awsome job off it as well Ryephile.com - Turbo Project Part 1 Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

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