[Paul Webster]

You're right Bhozer but it just shows how many people on here are real gearheads and have some great imagination.

We are primarly going out there for FUN and R&D.

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

You're right Bhozer but it just shows how many people on here are real gearheads and have some great imagination.

We are primarly going out there for FUN and R&D.

Then get a clubman, rip the engine out the front, rip the back out and stick on the Audo RS6 engine in the back. Paint it lime green and yellow and chuck some lambo wheels on it. job done

[Penguinracer]

If you're to stick with as much of the Mini platform as possible, then I think you will need to be looking at a turbo conversion along the lines of what Roland's done. We know you're itching to do it & to continue the friendly rivalry with Roland! A bit of competition benefits everyone! You'll want to rose-joint everything, look at the lightest possible wheels, monster brakes, Quaife (rather than a plate LSD - a plate type will be too snatchy), slicks & a suspension set-up which keeps the car as flat as possible (with minimum roll & pitch) yet still allows the tyres to bite into the surface. You'll want big ARBs. I think you'll need at least 400 bhp & 300 lb/ft to be competitive against the 550 bhp Audi S3 quattros. Obviously the flatter the curves the better.

[chuntington101]

if you are sticking with the MCS then how about you make a kit?? then you can race it and test it then sell it!

be nice to see a twin scroll manifold fabed up as this will deifantley help with spooling any turbo. chagecooler would also help reduce lag and means you cna run iced water for the first few seconds (10).

also, bit mad i know, but has anyone looked into replacing the liners/boring and using liners in the MINI?? i have seen it used in the states to great efect (the Honda guys love them). with a decking plate you can run slitly longer liners and thereofre more stroke (need longer rods too). just a dumb idea

also be nice to see a sequential box in there! then you wont have to worry about lag cos you will beable to flat shift! also it would be a good time to look at a bolt in ECU, maybe something like the Emerald (sp). oh and a traction control system to. you could link it to the boost controler and have it increaese the boost with either each gear or with your speed.

if you wanted to get really mad, and walk a little way from the MCS platform, then how about a 4WD car using the EVO transmition?? i have seen it done in to rallying Ford Ka's with soccy engines. that would be VERY interesting!

thanks Chris.

[chuntington101]

just found this and it has all the work done already! just bolt a supercharger on for 600bhp and off you go!

racecarsdirect.com (Race Cars For Sale) : For Sale Mini Cooper S3

Chris.

[BigShow]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

Then get a clubman, rip the engine out the front, rip the back out and stick on the Audo RS6 engine in the back. Paint it lime green and yellow and chuck some lambo wheels on it. job done

On my 'To Do Before I Die' list is to fit an RS4 engine into an MCS. I spoke with Paul about this before and he reckoned it would take about 25k to make it work... be a great time attack car

[BigShow]

Quote: Originally Posted by chuntington101 (original)

just found this and it has all the work done already! just bolt a supercharger on for 600bhp and off you go!

racecarsdirect.com (Race Cars For Sale) : For Sale Mini Cooper S3

Chris.

Oooh la ****in laa! Want it.

[chuntington101]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

Oooh la ****in laa! Want it.

i know! and i bet you could transform it into a road car to!

anyone care to guess a price?? (i haven't asked)

Chris.

[Loui]

an S engine that will rev to 8,000 using a teflon eaton, lairy head, reduced pulley, cam etc you get the idea

[Revolution Mini Works]

this one might work.....
still has the stock JCW airbox and filter
stock throttle body
stock supercharger with stock JCW pulley
stock intercooler

the internals aren't so stock

it should be more fun in stage II

[MINIdriver85]

Kumho...why that falling of torque between 4000 and 5000 rpm? Can't it be avoided?

[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIdriver85 (original)

Kumho...why that falling of torque between 4000 and 5000 rpm? Can't it be avoided?

LOL... it's only 5 ft lbs.... but yes.. I just didn't have time to sit on the dyno any longer

all hell is breaking loose.. you won't even notice it

[MINIdriver85]

Yeah, I know it's little, lol. I was just wondering why it did happen...

[Paul Webster]

Thats the problem with a dynapack you think OMG look at the torque dropping off.

So even you shoud be in the 1.20s on Friday

Nice 25ft lb gain at 3000

Imagine what it'll make with a decent Intercooler, do you know anyone who does one

[AndyH_MCS]

I'd say run a fairly powerful (240-260bhp) Mini and focus your main efforts on driving ability and handling.

At the end of the day you know what works for decently powered Minis so i'd just concentrate on the grip areas.

Wheel/Tyre/Pressure combo
Suspension Types/Geometery
Spring lbs
Track width
ARBs
Weight

Then the season after you'll be able to work out what you need power wise...although you'll be tinkering throughout 08 season!

I'm in pretty much the same boat for next year (albeit not competing in the TA series) and after my recent airfield day i know exactly what i need to work on. Mainly driving ability and front end grip!

I found that even with a GTT 210 kit i had ample power for a short circuit.

[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Thats the problem with a dynapack you think OMG look at the torque dropping off.

So even you shoud be in the 1.20s on Friday

Nice 25ft lb gain at 3000

Imagine what it'll make with a decent Intercooler, do you know anyone who does one

car is light as a feather.... you so much as think about pushing down on the throttle and the car just leaps... NO TURBO LAG.......

it's as good as the original twincharge without the maint. or heat

I think I will drop down in pulley size and see what kind of final tq numbers I can get with stock redline. The problem it boiled the hoosiers last time on the track with much less power

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original)

car is light as a feather.... you so much as think about pushing down on the throttle and the car just leaps... NO TURBO LAG.......

it's as good as the original twincharge without the maint. or heat

I think I will drop down in pulley size and see what kind of final tq numbers I can get with stock redline. The problem it boiled the hoosiers last time on the track with much less power

hoosiers? Does that mean brakes?

Strip your GP out and get that beast as light as possible. Wont boil the brakes so quickly if it's a lot lighter!

Or if you want to keep it heavy, like me, chuck on some monster brakes. Better they stop you than the tyre wall

[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

hoosiers? Does that mean brakes?

Strip your GP out and get that beast as light as possible. Wont boil the brakes so quickly if it's a lot lighter!

Or if you want to keep it heavy, like me, chuck on some monster brakes. Better they stop you than the tyre wall

Hoosiers are RACING SLICKS

I have some trick brake ducting though on the GP

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original)

Hoosiers are RACING SLICKS

I have some trick brake ducting though on the GP

Oh, sweet. I would love some racing slicks. Many track days dont allow them over here, so I think I'll be getting some toyo R888's on a spare set of wheels.

I'm going to do some brake ducting for the rear brakes. With the front being Porsche the rear are WAY hot. I would chuck Porsche on the back, but no one has a kit for it and there doesnt seem to be any interest in making some.

That RR result is pretty impressive. What does it end up as BHP, rather than WHP once the loses are measured? Can see why I thought it would be a good base for the 1320 Time Attack engine. Nice jump in torque over stock.

Be interesting in seeing it with a Rotrex or Turbo.

[Richard Crofts]

Off topic... Bhozar... tarox do a rear conversion. Bigger disc and therefore I assume bigger caliper for the MINI. Would probably be OK for your car as its got Porsche on front (but the best bet would be change your pad compound for a race compound) Let your front do the majority of braking on the road and then when the rears get hot enougyh its running race compound so wont cook them ?! )