[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

Oh, sweet. I would love some racing slicks. Many track days dont allow them over here, so I think I'll be getting some toyo R888's on a spare set of wheels.

I'm going to do some brake ducting for the rear brakes. With the front being Porsche the rear are WAY hot. I would chuck Porsche on the back, but no one has a kit for it and there doesnt seem to be any interest in making some.

That RR result is pretty impressive. What does it end up as BHP, rather than WHP once the loses are measured? Can see why I thought it would be a good base for the 1320 Time Attack engine. Nice jump in torque over stock.

Be interesting in seeing it with a Rotrex or Turbo.

we have figured the correction factor around 12%
but I have seen them like 25-30% on this board so take your guess, it's how much you really want to brag about.... since what gets to the wheels is only what really matters

[Loui]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original)

we have figured the correction factor around 12%
but I have seen them like 25-30% on this board so take your guess, it's how much you really want to brag about.... since what gets to the wheels is only what really matters

You have hub an pub figures though LOL

[MINIdriver85]

TCE does a rear conversion too

[chuntington101]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIdriver85 (original)

TCE does a rear conversion too

any more info on that?? what are the engine options??

Thanks Chris.

[MINIdriver85]

Quote: Originally Posted by chuntington101 (original)

any more info on that?? what are the engine options??

Thanks Chris.

No, I was replying to Richard's post where he said that tarox does a rear conversion for the brakes, I wanted to say TCE make a BBK for the rear axle too.

[BigShow]

Paul, if you go down the turbo route, can you make sure its got anti-lag like this please

YouTube - true rotary anti-lag

[brainycheddar]

Didn't getrag try out a 4wd version of the mini?...jk

Personally I'd work on trying to get all the low end torque you can out of that little 1.6 that you can, because in reality, you probably won't be competing head on with the evos and the skylines at the track, you're more likely to be battling cars like the Civic in all variations, what most of these cars have is plenty of high end power thanks to their V-tec, however coming out of the slwo corners is their achilies heel. fortunately the mini was never designed to be an econobox first and a fun car second, so with focus on a stable suspension setup plenty of low end torque, I'd personally look into larger radiators and intercoolers, meaty brakes up front, and smallish wheels and tires to swing acceleration into your favor. Time attack isn't an endurance race, so you can get away with aluminum where you can.

Dropping your unsprung weight as much as possible would be a good goal.

second would be squeezing out as much low end torque as you can, maybe going to a different supercharger, but more likely trying to drop air temps. with something like an i/c sprayer/ CO2. I wouldn't swap to a turbo if you can help it.

most likely the use of coolant in your radiator will be not allowed, so trying to fit a larger radiator, and running straight water with some water wetter would be good.

again, these are jsut my thoughts.

[chuntington101]

Quote: Originally Posted by brainycheddar (original)

Didn't getrag try out a 4wd version of the mini?...jk

Personally I'd work on trying to get all the low end torque you can out of that little 1.6 that you can, because in reality, you probably won't be competing head on with the evos and the skylines at the track, you're more likely to be battling cars like the Civic in all variations, what most of these cars have is plenty of high end power thanks to their V-tec, however coming out of the slwo corners is their achilies heel. fortunately the mini was never designed to be an econobox first and a fun car second, so with focus on a stable suspension setup plenty of low end torque, I'd personally look into larger radiators and intercoolers, meaty brakes up front, and smallish wheels and tires to swing acceleration into your favor. Time attack isn't an endurance race, so you can get away with aluminum where you can.

Dropping your unsprung weight as much as possible would be a good goal.

second would be squeezing out as much low end torque as you can, maybe going to a different supercharger, but more likely trying to drop air temps. with something like an i/c sprayer/ CO2. I wouldn't swap to a turbo if you can help it.

most likely the use of coolant in your radiator will be not allowed, so trying to fit a larger radiator, and running straight water with some water wetter would be good.

again, these are jsut my thoughts.

nice ideas mate!

and if you where to run a chargecooler then you could run a ice box and have very low intake temps.

could you get something like this to work??

SQSracing dot com

the vital 100ths of a second might help get times down and it would be harder to mis a shift. plus you could run an ignition cut and WOT shifts!

Chris.

[BRMCooper]

only thing about running a charge cooler your carrying exrta weight around (pump, water, pipes etcetc) IMO a fround mounted air-air will be better, weight is the devil!!

[Loui]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

Paul, if you go down the turbo route, can you make sure its got anti-lag like this please


YouTube - true rotary anti-lag

Do you also get a little bloke to blow out the flames, only thing is i think he will add weight hanging from the rear window wiper LOL

[BigShow]

Lmao

[brainycheddar]

some other things that I didn't originally think of... aerodynamics, maybe a front splitter, some sort of rear diffuser if allowed, a wing...but then again you aren't going to go at Ferrari Enzo speeds...
defo an air-air i/c. what I see a lot of the JDM cars is where they remove every ounce of wieght, and then re-enforce all the spot welds, to stiffen the chassis with adding as little weight as possible. in the american magazine, they recently did a 3 part issue on a time attack miata, obiously some major differences, but I'm sure they key points would be a good basis. --->

Project Mazda Miata Time Attack Part 1 - Sport Compact Car

[2 much]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

So what engine combination would you build if you had entered these series??

Because we have entered for 2008

Time Attack Series - Official Website

what engine ? well it will need in my view to be turbo charged.as by what ive been reading the top boys have gone power crazy

[Paul Webster]

I thought you were going to post I could borrow yours

I think in the end we will have to be turbo'd, I was hoping you were going to gets some quick laps at Brands and Donny so I could get an idea whats needed.

Though I'm competitve I do realise I'm up against it and realise this year will be a steep learning curve.

Also I'm more concerned about loosing touch with the normal Mini owners if I do switch to turbo and this is why I've held back from switching over to turbo.

But the thought of having 500-600bhp with the nitrous does appeal to me

Just need a couple more demo cars............

[2 much]

[quote=1320autos;3277430]I thought you were going to post I could borrow yours

I think in the end we will have to be turbo'd, I was hoping you were going to gets some quick laps at Brands and Donny so I could get an idea whats needed.

Though I'm competitve I do realise I'm up against it and realise this year will be a steep learning curve.

Also I'm more concerned about loosing touch with the normal Mini owners if I do switch to turbo and this is why I've held back from switching over to turbo.

But the thought of having 500-600bhp with the nitrous does appeal to me

Just need a couple more demo cars............[/quote

well unfortunately the only track i can give times for is for donny .i have done 1min 25 sec .which is still 3 seconds slower than a challange car .that was on a bone dry track working very hard [with a passenger ] that was on used slicks with around 250 bhp. with extra power i have now the car could do 1min 20 sec wether or not i can drive it that fast remains to be seen .as my car is based on a challange car its is all about settings and driver skill .if the car is set up good you will get some good lap times.i reckon with 400bhp or so you wont be too far off. the pace in club class .pro tuner class now thats a different ball game

[Paul Webster]

Luckly we are entered in the club class, I found the Bedford Autodrome an eye opener thats for sure.

Shows how well the challange cars are set up or how good the drivers are or a combo off both, luckly quite a few of them are our customers and have given us some tips and settings.

Just need a decent driver

[2 much]

drive yourself you will love it

[Paul Webster]

Yeah but I'm already hating this diet, only 44lbs to go

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Yeah but I'm already hating this diet, only 44lbs to go

If it makes you feel better, I lost weight for the 3rd Christmas running and now have 32w jeans First time in over a decade.

Keep at it. Will make it well worth driving. You might want to talk to Powerstation in Tewkesbury about getting your suspension setup. They have been doing it for the winners the last few years, but turned down doing the Norris design car. All hersay, but might be something in it.

[2 much]

i know one team is using btcc engineer to set the car up