[Lucky Dave]

After much of my time spent setting up my mini with road testing I got round to putting it on the rollers!

The main point I would like to make clear is that im very happy with the results on the road but I just wanted to get them backed up on the rollers as so many people have asked how the tuning has been going.

The dyno chosen was 1320s and im sure we are all aware of the hot dyno topic with questions raised with regard to tuning for the road or tuning for a power run.

Firstly I would like to say a big thank you to Paul, Chris and Tom for all the hot tea, banter and care taken with the car. Also it was very kind of them to allow me to slow down the process with all my data logging !!

The spec is as follows

2005 Cooper S now with 28,000 on the clock
GTT 210 kit fitted when the car was brand new
Since added,
GTT exhaust manifold & cat
Miltek cat back exhaust
Works airbox with gtt inners
shrek camshaft
GTT stage 2 head
GTT Throttle body
GTT intercooler
Standard size lower pulley but 17% charger pulley
larger 450cc injectors and adjustable fuel reg.
Bosch LS4.2 wideband sensors running some home made/setup wideband fuel controller!
Running shell optimax with no addatives

OK now for the info!

The car was a pain to get to grip in the rollers due to worn lower wishbone rubbers which gave up on the trip to 1320s that morning of all times! But with Myself and Paul weighing down the car it has some extra grip!

On the second run we had a power cut!! and were left in darkness, I still believe it was the power surge created by my beast of a car!!! Yes I had so much power I blew the rollers up!!

Only kidding!

243.5 bhp @ 6856
205.3 ft lb @ 5413

205.8 whp

37.7whp loss

Intake temps were at 21 before the runs and did not go over 50 at any time.
Exhaust temps maxed at 820 with cylinders 2 and 4 being the hottest then 3 then 1
A/F was between 10.5 and 11.9 on full load with it getting a little richer at top end due to the car running a works map.

All in im chuffed, on the trip home the logged data was smoother and better than on the rollers, with the A/F being very steady just going to show the car is tuned for the road but can still hold its own on the rollers

Cheers again guys!

[BigShow300]

Good to meet you today mate. Thats an awesome figure to achieve especially on the torque side, well done on all your hard work it's certianly paid off and I coudln't stop smiling at your boot badge today, well funny.

Where can I buy one of those cams... sounds like a right Ogor! lol

[Snowie]

Good figures Dave - well done

[Loui]

Nice power dave

[BRMCooper]

good figures dave!! congrats!

[k m s]

Great figures Dave, was a good day even if a little on the cold side!

Hope you don't mind me hijacking the thread to post my own figures as well, like Dave the car goes like a train on the road and putting it on the rollers was more out of curiosity and to check for any pinking.

The spec:

2004 (facelift) convertible with 47,000 miles (covered across most of Western Europe! Now semi-retired though )
GTT220
GTT Throttle body
Janspeed Man
Milltek
GRS Intercooler
450cc Injectors + AFPR
Wideband Sensor

The figures:

226.3 bhp / 7006
185.9 ft lb / 4881

203 whp

Boost is around 20psi, the car was running on BP Ultimate thanks to me forgetting my wallet when going to fill up with Optimax this morning

Whilst the figure @ the fly was lower than I expected I was pleased as punch to break through the 200 @ the wheels barrier, and the figures compare well with Dave's car which has the stage 2 head, Works map and camshaft (all of which are standard on my car). We did a little tuning to richen it up at the bottom, it now runs very slightly on the rich side of perfect for security and was running incredibly smoothly on the way home

Cheers to the guys at 1320 for an excellent day and some cracking tea, was good to meet you all!

Edit: Forgot to thanks Dave and Ade for all their hard work setting the car up recently. Cheers guys, it's much appreciated!

[lucachiarelli]

Very impressive figures dave. Really liked the look of your car. Its a shame i didnt get to see it in action on the rollers.

[lucachiarelli]

Quote: Originally Posted by k m s (original)

Great figures Dave, was a good day even if a little on the cold side!

Hope you don't mind me hijacking the thread to post my own figures as well, like Dave the car goes like a train on the road and putting it on the rollers was more out of curiosity and to check for any pinking.

The spec:

2004 (facelift) convertible with 47,000 miles (covered across most of Western Europe! Now semi-retired though )
GTT220
GTT Throttle body
Janspeed Man
Milltek
GRS Intercooler
450cc Injectors + AFPR
Wideband Sensor

The figures:

226.3 bhp / 7006
185.9 ft lb / 4881

203 whp

Boost is around 20psi, the car was running on BP Ultimate thanks to me forgetting my wallet when going to fill up with Optimax this morning

Whilst the figure @ the fly was lower than I expected I was pleased as punch to break through the 200 @ the wheels barrier, and the figures compare well with Dave's car which has the stage 2 head, Works map and camshaft (all of which are standard on my car). We did a little tuning to richen it up at the bottom, it now runs very slightly on the rich side of perfect for security and was running incredibly smoothly on the way home

Cheers to the guys at 1320 for an excellent day and some cracking tea, was good to meet you all!

Edit: Forgot to thanks Dave and Ade for all their hard work setting the car up recently. Cheers guys, it's much appreciated!

Well done mate

[1320autos]

I think you should start your own thread k m s instead of hijacking Dave's thread

Look forward to Ade's thread though the road is nice to tune on I think all of you would agree you can learn a lot of information a lot quicker on the dyno especially when you're trying different parts / tunes

Then of course its nice to back it up on the 30-70 3rd gear test or more importantly 1320ft of black tarmac

There's a lot more trq / horsepower to find yet

[roland2003]

Nice power Dave and Kevin....spinning the Rollers eh . Crikey we'd have no chance with our turbo then.

[GRSmotorsport]

Good result Dave, well pleased for you

[1320autos]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Nice power Dave and Kevin....spinning the Rollers eh . Crikey we'd have no chance with our turbo then.

If your front bushes are totally knackered and your front shock extension and rear shock compression are soft then you might have the same problem Roland.

Knowing you have got Bilsteins PSS9s on you wont have a problem.

[roland2003]

Lees car must have some mega power then as its polybushed, PSS9'd and sticky tyres and slipped all day on the Superchips RR
Mind you you dont need a RR to know this car is quick

[Lucky Dave]

Yes im running stock S suspension and the lower bushes are fully destroyed!!

I have tried both eibach springs and KW varient 3s but could not get on with either as it was too hardcore on the motorway which left me worn out after a 100 mile drive!

[1320autos]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Lees car must have some mega power then as its polybushed, PSS9'd and sticky tyres and slipped all day on the Superchips RR
Mind you you dont need a RR to know this car is quick

Did you adjust the suspension on the day Roland??

[Loui]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

If your front bushes are totally knackered and your front shock extension and rear shock compression are soft then you might have the same problem Roland.

Knowing you have got Bilsteins PSS9s on you wont have a problem.

Tell me about it

[Rigsey]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original)

After much of my time spent setting up my mini with road testing I got round to putting it on the rollers!

The main point I would like to make clear is that im very happy with the results on the road but I just wanted to get them backed up on the rollers as so many people have asked how the tuning has been going.

The dyno chosen was 1320s and im sure we are all aware of the hot dyno topic with questions raised with regard to tuning for the road or tuning for a power run.

Firstly I would like to say a big thank you to Paul, Chris and Tom for all the hot tea, banter and care taken with the car. Also it was very kind of them to allow me to slow down the process with all my data logging !!

The spec is as follows

2005 Cooper S now with 28,000 on the clock
GTT 210 kit fitted when the car was brand new
Since added,
GTT exhaust manifold & cat
Miltek cat back exhaust
Works airbox with gtt inners
shrek camshaft
GTT stage 2 head
GTT Throttle body
GTT intercooler
Standard size lower pulley but 17% charger pulley
larger 450cc injectors and adjustable fuel reg.
Bosch LS4.2 wideband sensors running some home made/setup wideband fuel controller!
Running shell optimax with no addatives

OK now for the info!

The car was a pain to get to grip in the rollers due to worn lower wishbone rubbers which gave up on the trip to 1320s that morning of all times! But with Myself and Paul weighing down the car it has some extra grip!

On the second run we had a power cut!! and were left in darkness, I still believe it was the power surge created by my beast of a car!!! Yes I had so much power I blew the rollers up!!

Only kidding!

243.5 bhp @ 6856
205.3 ft lb @ 5413

205.8 whp

37.7whp loss

Intake temps were at 21 before the runs and did not go over 50 at any time.
Exhaust temps maxed at 820 with cylinders 2 and 4 being the hottest then 3 then 1
A/F was between 10.5 and 11.9 on full load with it getting a little richer at top end due to the car running a works map.

All in im chuffed, on the trip home the logged data was smoother and better than on the rollers, with the A/F being very steady just going to show the car is tuned for the road but can still hold its own on the rollers

Cheers again guys!

Hi Dave

Nice numbers, out of interest what are you using to log your variables?

Cheers Neil

[Lucky Dave]

Log works via the innovate logging system.

[1320autos]

ECU Re-Map (MTH)
Iridium Sparkplugs
17% Supercharger Pulley
GTT Twin Bearing Idler Pulley
GTT Drivebelt
GTT Cold Ram Induction Kit
GTT 16 Tube Large Top Mount Intercooler + Diffuser
Exhaust Re-route Pipe
GTT Camshafts
Adjustable Vernier Camshaft Sprocket
63mm Throttle Body
Stage 2 Gas Flowed / Ported Cylinder Head
GTT Sports Manifold & Cat
GTT Tensioner Pulley
GTT Tensioner Limit Stop
GTT Competition Lightweight Crank Pulley
JCW Injectors
40,000 Volt Ignition Coil Pack
Live Wire Ignition Lead Set

The maximum it got was actually 237 at the fly corrected to 245 due to heat loss I can't find the dyno plot to say what I got at the wheels

How spooky is that same head & cam different car

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original)

On the second run we had a power cut!! and were left in darkness, I still believe it was the power surge created by my beast of a car!!! Yes I had so much power I blew the rollers up!!

Turns out the 1320 kettle blew out the power. So 1320 decided to test it.

The spec is as follows:
2005 Kettle
13 Amp fuse
253.5 bhp @ 6856
215.3 ft lb @ 5413
0-Boiling: 90 seconds
Has also done the 1/4 mile in 13.2 seconds( they forgot to take it out of the boot once)

So conclusive proof that a kettle is more powerful than Daves car

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

If your front bushes are totally knackered..

Like mine then.