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Perm · Dec 6th, 2007, 01:58 PM

Hi,

I am looking into getting a CAI for my MCS (2003). I have narrowed the choice down to the
GTT or Alta v2. I have the utmost respect for both products but if you were choosing which would you choose and why.

Also does anyone have any comments about the benefits or otherwise of using the ALTA lid on their CAI ?

For information my car has a BBR220 conversion on it (19% reduction pulley).

Thanks

Perm

DaFlake · Dec 6th, 2007, 02:14 PM

The one that fits my budget and looks best in my ride. There are few if any gains from a CAI, so the choice is wide open.

sef · Dec 6th, 2007, 02:22 PM

Save your money and put it towards something like a larger Intercooler...

Perm · Dec 6th, 2007, 02:34 PM

Sef,

I may just do that...... I think an upgraded Intercooler would give my car the most benefit.... however I like the idea of a little more super charger noise......

Any other comments ?

Thanks

Perm

Rigsey · Dec 6th, 2007, 02:43 PM

I'd recommend a CAI as a good mod especially for noise

GTT or Alta? I have GTT and am very pleased but I'm sure the Alta is fine.

sef · Dec 6th, 2007, 02:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Perm (original)

Sef,

I may just do that...... I think an upgraded Intercooler would give my car the most benefit.... however I like the idea of a little more super charger noise......

Any other comments ?

Thanks

Perm

You have PM

Richard Crofts · Dec 6th, 2007, 02:51 PM

Personally the GTT is the slightly better peice of kit. There are certain engineering and air flow things on it that are better and so give you that 1 or 2 hp. However the Alta (I have this) is cheaper (and red, so matches my car better

) and like DaFlake says theres not much difference in HP on any kit.

Personally I'd choose whatever looks best, and is more in your budget....as the power is of relatively small consequence and anything your might save could go on bigger ICs or injectors etc etc. however the best engineered one is the GTT in my mind.

sef · Dec 6th, 2007, 02:53 PM

This is getting interesting...

DaFlake · Dec 6th, 2007, 02:55 PM

The only thing I do not like about the Alta is that it is straight foam which means higher care. I believe that the GTT is a more fiber filter I have the Mini Madness CAI and it is a nice addition to the car especially on the noise side. Mine makes a nice sucking sound as I shift.

sef · Dec 6th, 2007, 03:00 PM

The GTT CAI sucks nicely and does make the SC whine louder... But you must drill holes in the plastic divider (in front of the standard airbox) if you don't want to lose power...(Too much heat soak) Having said that I haven't tested it yet with the holes (have without) so unsure about power gains...

DaFlake · Dec 6th, 2007, 03:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sef (original)

The GTT CAI sucks nicely and does make the SC whine louder... But you must drill holes in the plastic divider (in front of the standard airbox) if you don't want to lose power...(Too much heat soak) Having said that I haven't tested it yet with the holes (have without) so unsure about power gains...

The MINI Madness is the same but they do sell a divider that you can install if you want to keep your original one. I think that you can buy this separately as well.

sef · Dec 6th, 2007, 03:07 PM

Yes, I've been offered a replacement divider once I've tested it with the holes. I may just remove it for testing tho...

BigShow · Dec 6th, 2007, 03:09 PM

I have the Alta V2 and it made a 1 bhp gain over the standard box. 1320's car has kind of proven IMO there is no need to change from standard to make big numbers but I like the look of the Alta in the engine bay and it does increase the supercharger whine. I agree with Sef though, get an intercooler instead, the GRS has done wonders for mine.

Perm · Dec 6th, 2007, 03:12 PM

thanks guys for the input.... I think I will go down the intercooler route....

Cheers

Perm

alski · Dec 6th, 2007, 05:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Perm (original)

thanks guys for the input.... I think I will go down the intercooler route....

Cheers

Perm

you can get a better panel filter for small money as well, if you keep the oem box

Richard Crofts · Dec 6th, 2007, 05:14 PM

I'd suggest a panel filter like KN or Piper to replace the stock one... this really does make almost as much difference as many of the induction kits and at a fraction of the cost. A good quality panel filter in the stock airbox will work well, but less noise and no whooshing suck when you blip the throttle like on a Alta or GTT

sillycar gt4cs · Dec 6th, 2007, 06:51 PM

the design of the alta air box is better,take a look.but foam filters are known for bad filtration.

roland2003 · Dec 7th, 2007, 08:53 AM

Hi Perm, there is a very good deal we are offering on the GTT Intercooler (& snoot boots if required) in the 'Group Buy & M2 Special Offers Forum' .There is also 10% off the GTT Cold Ram kit aswell

,which weve just added to the list. All valid until end of Jan.
Best Regards Roland GTT

Lucky Dave · Dec 7th, 2007, 09:18 AM

Its just a thought Roland but will the GTT works hidden air filter fit in the standard S airbox?

I know it does not have the extra flap but it does have a vent into the skuttle.

BRMCooper · Dec 11th, 2007, 12:16 AM

CAI for noise, Standard for power.... blimey i never thought id be saying that about modding motors!

I have Alta and tbh its just to keep the chav in me quiet, i love the sound and would prob find it hard to switch back tbh the noise gets under your skin only other mod id switch it for would be the M7 VGS (ohhh that whine!) but they dont make them any more

Dec 6th, 2007, 01:58 PM	#1
Perm MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nottinghamshire Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 490 Offline	GTT or Alta V2 CAI Hi, I am looking into getting a CAI for my MCS (2003). I have narrowed the choice down to the GTT or Alta v2. I have the utmost respect for both products but if you were choosing which would you choose and why. Also does anyone have any comments about the benefits or otherwise of using the ALTA lid on their CAI ? For information my car has a BBR220 conversion on it (19% reduction pulley). Thanks Perm

Dec 6th, 2007, 02:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:59 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	The one that fits my budget and looks best in my ride. There are few if any gains from a CAI, so the choice is wide open. Global Moderator

Dec 6th, 2007, 02:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 710 Online	Save your money and put it towards something like a larger Intercooler... www.miniclubuk.com

Dec 6th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rigsey MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kent Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 532 Offline	I'd recommend a CAI as a good mod especially for noise GTT or Alta? I have GTT and am very pleased but I'm sure the Alta is fine. GTT, GRS, Janspeed, JCW, OMP + various other bits - 232.6bhp, 191.2lbft on 1320's rolling road

Dec 6th, 2007, 02:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 710 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Perm (original) Sef, I may just do that...... I think an upgraded Intercooler would give my car the most benefit.... however I like the idea of a little more super charger noise...... Any other comments ? Thanks Perm You have PM www.miniclubuk.com

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Dec 6th, 2007, 02:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Perm MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nottinghamshire Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 490 Offline	Sef, I may just do that...... I think an upgraded Intercooler would give my car the most benefit.... however I like the idea of a little more super charger noise...... Any other comments ? Thanks Perm

Dec 6th, 2007, 02:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	Personally the GTT is the slightly better peice of kit. There are certain engineering and air flow things on it that are better and so give you that 1 or 2 hp. However the Alta (I have this) is cheaper (and red, so matches my car better ) and like DaFlake says theres not much difference in HP on any kit. Personally I'd choose whatever looks best, and is more in your budget....as the power is of relatively small consequence and anything your might save could go on bigger ICs or injectors etc etc. however the best engineered one is the GTT in my mind.

Dec 6th, 2007, 02:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 710 Online	This is getting interesting... www.miniclubuk.com

Dec 6th, 2007, 02:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:59 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	The only thing I do not like about the Alta is that it is straight foam which means higher care. I believe that the GTT is a more fiber filter I have the Mini Madness CAI and it is a nice addition to the car especially on the noise side. Mine makes a nice sucking sound as I shift. Global Moderator

Dec 6th, 2007, 03:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 710 Online	The GTT CAI sucks nicely and does make the SC whine louder... But you must drill holes in the plastic divider (in front of the standard airbox) if you don't want to lose power...(Too much heat soak) Having said that I haven't tested it yet with the holes (have without) so unsure about power gains... www.miniclubuk.com

Dec 6th, 2007, 03:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:59 PM Posts: 11,037 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sef (original) The GTT CAI sucks nicely and does make the SC whine louder... But you must drill holes in the plastic divider (in front of the standard airbox) if you don't want to lose power...(Too much heat soak) Having said that I haven't tested it yet with the holes (have without) so unsure about power gains... The MINI Madness is the same but they do sell a divider that you can install if you want to keep your original one. I think that you can buy this separately as well. Global Moderator

Dec 6th, 2007, 03:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 710 Online	Yes, I've been offered a replacement divider once I've tested it with the holes. I may just remove it for testing tho... www.miniclubuk.com

Dec 6th, 2007, 03:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 928 Offline	I have the Alta V2 and it made a 1 bhp gain over the standard box. 1320's car has kind of proven IMO there is no need to change from standard to make big numbers but I like the look of the Alta in the engine bay and it does increase the supercharger whine. I agree with Sef though, get an intercooler instead, the GRS has done wonders for mine. http://www.MiniTorque.com

Dec 6th, 2007, 03:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
Perm MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nottinghamshire Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 490 Offline	thanks guys for the input.... I think I will go down the intercooler route.... Cheers Perm

Dec 6th, 2007, 05:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
alski dyno-mite, might not.... My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: banbury Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 988 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Perm (original) thanks guys for the input.... I think I will go down the intercooler route.... Cheers Perm you can get a better panel filter for small money as well, if you keep the oem box carefree

Dec 6th, 2007, 05:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	I'd suggest a panel filter like KN or Piper to replace the stock one... this really does make almost as much difference as many of the induction kits and at a fraction of the cost. A good quality panel filter in the stock airbox will work well, but less noise and no whooshing suck when you blip the throttle like on a Alta or GTT

Dec 6th, 2007, 06:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
sillycar gt4cs MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2006 Local Time: 09:59 PM Posts: 218 Offline	the design of the alta air box is better,take a look.but foam filters are known for bad filtration.

Dec 7th, 2007, 08:53 AM	#18 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 2,731 Offline	Hi Perm, there is a very good deal we are offering on the GTT Intercooler (& snoot boots if required) in the 'Group Buy & M2 Special Offers Forum' .There is also 10% off the GTT Cold Ram kit aswell ,which weve just added to the list. All valid until end of Jan. Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

Dec 7th, 2007, 09:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
Lucky Dave Thinking Minis My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 08:59 PM Posts: 811 Offline	Its just a thought Roland but will the GTT works hidden air filter fit in the standard S airbox? I know it does not have the extra flap but it does have a vent into the skuttle. For All Your Mini's Needs 01905 620011

Dec 11th, 2007, 12:16 AM	#20 (permalink)
BRMCooper LOBSTER! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Essex Local Time: 09:59 PM Posts: 363 Offline	CAI for noise, Standard for power.... blimey i never thought id be saying that about modding motors! I have Alta and tbh its just to keep the chav in me quiet, i love the sound and would prob find it hard to switch back tbh the noise gets under your skin only other mod id switch it for would be the M7 VGS (ohhh that whine!) but they dont make them any more ..::14.21@100.99MPH::.. 15% Pulley, CAI, Mani, Back Box, GRS Intercooler

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