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1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 02:00 PM

std cat instead of the jJanspeed cat
Std dirty air filter
Std S cat back
JCW 380cc Injectors
Janspeed Manifold
GRS IC
1320 camshaft
Tesco 99 fuel, no additves, no race fuel

Happy days

Snowie · Dec 14th, 2007, 02:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

std cat instead of the jJanspeed cat
Std dirty air filter
Std S cat back
Std cylinder head
Janspeed Manifold
GRS IC
1320 camshaft
Tesco 99 fuel, no additves, no race fuel

Happy days

good results - what map are you using?

How is the 30 to 70 time ??

Alan

Lucky Dave · Dec 14th, 2007, 02:32 PM

Im guessing thats stock map.

alski · Dec 14th, 2007, 02:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

std cat instead of the jJanspeed cat
Std dirty air filter
Std S cat back
Std cylinder head
Janspeed Manifold
GRS IC
1320 camshaft
Tesco 99 fuel, no additves, no race fuel

Happy days

is this the idea i suggested ages ago? ie std cat engineered "ie mated " onto performance manifold? as a comparison against race cat/de-cat,

also was this all before 7,200 rpm

1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 03:10 PM

Stock map max power was at 7000

1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 03:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by alski (original)

is this the idea i suggested ages ago? ie std cat engineered "ie mated " onto performance manifold? as a comparison against race cat/de-cat,

also was this all before 7,200 rpm

It seems to be working well, dont forget Roland made 273 with a std manifold and std cat but with the pre cat removed.

I love cheap power

Maybe a tune will get us over the 250 mark and hopefully some low end torque as well.

I forgot to add that our dyno shows a bit less horsepower than SRR

BigShow300 · Dec 14th, 2007, 03:56 PM

Thats some seriously cheap power, nice one Paul... can you fit the camshaft to mine tonight before the track day tomorrow??

Just shows that you don't need to spend big bucks to get big power, its about finding the right mods for the car.

You should give Roland a call and buy one of his stage 4 heads then you'd have 287.5 bhp to play with as they make 40 bhp over the stock head.

1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 05:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Snowie (original)

good results - what map are you using?

How is the 30 to 70 time ??

Alan

We've put a 05 ecu in where as the other day we had an 02 ecu in it, its making similar boost to yours now Snowie

I'll guess that my 30-70 is slower, but I think the 0-60 and 0-100 will improve.

From what I see of Jans tunes we might regain the torque at the bottom so we might have the best of both worlds

.

1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 05:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

Thats some seriously cheap power, nice one Paul... can you fit the camshaft to mine tonight before the track day tomorrow??

Just shows that you don't need to spend big bucks to get big power, its about finding the right mods for the car.

You should give Roland a call and buy one of his stage 4 heads then you'd have 287.5 bhp to play with as they make 40 bhp over the stock head.

Cheers Big Show unfortunatley I'm baby sitting tonight and Thomas is putting Rob "the valves" Hunt engine back in.

I think if we put Rolands GTT stage 4 head on it would make the same as Snowies about low 250s, I know its a strange concept to understand but thats the way it is.

I'll try and explain it at the Bedford Mini2 track day tomorrow.

sef · Dec 14th, 2007, 06:48 PM

What was Wheel Power and Torque Paul?

Aberdeen Al · Dec 14th, 2007, 06:54 PM

Standard 330cc injectors?

1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 07:08 PM

215 whp 195 ft lb sef corrected, did see 219 at one point

I knew I left some thing off the list Al, if we put the 330s in would it hit the 250 mark

I think I know what we might be trying Monday

Aberdeen Al · Dec 14th, 2007, 07:11 PM

380cc injectors then

!

1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 07:11 PM

I have talked to Jan and with this cam we're going to do a map with his 440 injectors so if you want to step up to head you dont have to buy another set of injectors.

1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 07:12 PM

Also for those nitrous users you'll have fuel capacity in stock if using a wet system. this could of saved us two pistons in 06

Aberdeen Al · Dec 14th, 2007, 07:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

I have talked to Jan and with this cam we're going to do a map with his 440 injectors so if you want to step up to head you dont have to buy another set of injectors.

Would you not suffer with overfuelling with that set-up?

Will be interesting to see dyno curves pre & post re-map with that set-up

1320autos · Dec 14th, 2007, 07:15 PM

No, Jan has just done one for a customer who is using a dry system in the states.

Its knowing how to manipulate the ecu correctly.

Bluecoopers · Dec 15th, 2007, 08:59 AM

Thats what i need then Paul, That camshaft. It must be the missing link for mine

sef · Dec 15th, 2007, 12:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

215 whp 195 ft lb sef corrected, did see 219 at one point

That sounds great... I'll speaking to you about this in the new year...

Revolution Mini Works · Dec 15th, 2007, 12:37 PM

Paul
please send me a scan of the dyno sheet when you get a moment
thanks
I want to see what we can do tuning wise with it

Dec 14th, 2007, 02:00 PM	#1
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Just made 247.5bhp with 15% & stock cyl head and.... std cat instead of the jJanspeed cat Std dirty air filter Std S cat back JCW 380cc Injectors Janspeed Manifold GRS IC 1320 camshaft Tesco 99 fuel, no additves, no race fuel Happy days Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT Last edited by 1320autos : Dec 14th, 2007 at 07:17 PM.

Dec 14th, 2007, 02:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Snowie MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Modena IT /Camberley Local Time: 10:33 PM Posts: 1,499 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) std cat instead of the jJanspeed cat Std dirty air filter Std S cat back Std cylinder head Janspeed Manifold GRS IC 1320 camshaft Tesco 99 fuel, no additves, no race fuel Happy days good results - what map are you using? How is the 30 to 70 time ?? Alan In Italy

Dec 14th, 2007, 02:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lucky Dave Thinking Minis My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 733 Offline	Im guessing thats stock map. Lucky is a way of life (tm) 243.5 bhp & 205.3 ft lb

Dec 14th, 2007, 02:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
alski dyno-mite, might not.... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: banbury Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 954 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) std cat instead of the jJanspeed cat Std dirty air filter Std S cat back Std cylinder head Janspeed Manifold GRS IC 1320 camshaft Tesco 99 fuel, no additves, no race fuel Happy days is this the idea i suggested ages ago? ie std cat engineered "ie mated " onto performance manifold? as a comparison against race cat/de-cat, also was this all before 7,200 rpm carefree

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1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Stock map max power was at 7000 Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

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Dec 14th, 2007, 03:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alski (original) is this the idea i suggested ages ago? ie std cat engineered "ie mated " onto performance manifold? as a comparison against race cat/de-cat, also was this all before 7,200 rpm It seems to be working well, dont forget Roland made 273 with a std manifold and std cat but with the pre cat removed. I love cheap power Maybe a tune will get us over the 250 mark and hopefully some low end torque as well. I forgot to add that our dyno shows a bit less horsepower than SRR Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Dec 14th, 2007, 03:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
BigShow300 Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 917 Offline	Thats some seriously cheap power, nice one Paul... can you fit the camshaft to mine tonight before the track day tomorrow?? Just shows that you don't need to spend big bucks to get big power, its about finding the right mods for the car. You should give Roland a call and buy one of his stage 4 heads then you'd have 287.5 bhp to play with as they make 40 bhp over the stock head.

Dec 14th, 2007, 05:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Snowie (original) good results - what map are you using? How is the 30 to 70 time ?? Alan We've put a 05 ecu in where as the other day we had an 02 ecu in it, its making similar boost to yours now Snowie I'll guess that my 30-70 is slower, but I think the 0-60 and 0-100 will improve. From what I see of Jans tunes we might regain the torque at the bottom so we might have the best of both worlds. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Dec 14th, 2007, 05:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original) Thats some seriously cheap power, nice one Paul... can you fit the camshaft to mine tonight before the track day tomorrow?? Just shows that you don't need to spend big bucks to get big power, its about finding the right mods for the car. You should give Roland a call and buy one of his stage 4 heads then you'd have 287.5 bhp to play with as they make 40 bhp over the stock head. Cheers Big Show unfortunatley I'm baby sitting tonight and Thomas is putting Rob "the valves" Hunt engine back in. I think if we put Rolands GTT stage 4 head on it would make the same as Snowies about low 250s, I know its a strange concept to understand but thats the way it is. I'll try and explain it at the Bedford Mini2 track day tomorrow. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Dec 14th, 2007, 06:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 672 Offline	What was Wheel Power and Torque Paul? www.miniclubuk.com

Dec 14th, 2007, 06:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
Aberdeen Al MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 618 Offline	Standard 330cc injectors? Vroooom Vroooom

Dec 14th, 2007, 07:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	215 whp 195 ft lb sef corrected, did see 219 at one point I knew I left some thing off the list Al, if we put the 330s in would it hit the 250 mark I think I know what we might be trying Monday Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Dec 14th, 2007, 07:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Aberdeen Al MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 618 Offline	380cc injectors then ! Vroooom Vroooom

Dec 14th, 2007, 07:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	I have talked to Jan and with this cam we're going to do a map with his 440 injectors so if you want to step up to head you dont have to buy another set of injectors. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Dec 14th, 2007, 07:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Also for those nitrous users you'll have fuel capacity in stock if using a wet system. this could of saved us two pistons in 06 Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Dec 14th, 2007, 07:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
Aberdeen Al MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 618 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) I have talked to Jan and with this cam we're going to do a map with his 440 injectors so if you want to step up to head you dont have to buy another set of injectors. Would you not suffer with overfuelling with that set-up? Will be interesting to see dyno curves pre & post re-map with that set-up Vroooom Vroooom

Dec 14th, 2007, 07:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	No, Jan has just done one for a customer who is using a dry system in the states. Its knowing how to manipulate the ecu correctly. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Dec 15th, 2007, 08:59 AM	#18 (permalink)
Bluecoopers MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 8 Offline	Thats what i need then Paul, That camshaft. It must be the missing link for mine

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sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 11:33 PM Posts: 672 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) 215 whp 195 ft lb sef corrected, did see 219 at one point That sounds great... I'll speaking to you about this in the new year... www.miniclubuk.com

Dec 15th, 2007, 12:37 PM	#20 (permalink)
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