[1320autos]

Dyno results are posted in the following thread:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3261086

So who is hoping to tackle this job themselves,? We've sold a few already to people who want the experience and to putt their own stamp on their turbo conversion themselves.

Would you do fmic or water to air.

Would it be for track or road?

Would you use the stock ecu or a stand alone?

[Karl_Cooper_S]

You seem to be comming out with some great stuff, you have PM about your Cams. :-)

[MINI-Morgan]

Checkout that torque..... dribble dribble.....:P

Are you going to be stocking his kits soon?

[NeuroBeaker]

Wow... great to see posted results too.

[1320autos]

Quote: Originally Posted by Karl_Cooper_S (original)

You seem to be comming out with some great stuff, you have PM about your Cams. :-)

Cheers Karl I would love to take the credit for this but this work is down to Hubie, we're just the connection from over there to over here.

We both share the same passion

[1320autos]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Checkout that torque..... dribble dribble.....:P

Are you going to be stocking his kits soon?

I know he has a used twin charge kit sitting around gathering dust at the moment, as for kits you'll have to wait and see what Hubie is bringing to the table in 08

[1320autos]

Quote: Originally Posted by ARCrawford (original)

Wow... great to see posted results too.

I have to beg for these dyno sheets due to Hubie being constantly working on a project off some discription, luckly for me he only sleeps between the hours off 4am to 8am most nights

I might have to blag some more off him, with 80 exhaust manifolds sold world wide and most of them been fitted by himself there's alot of info about.

[MINI-Morgan]

Would love to try doing one myself

Answer to your questions:

Would you do fmic or water to air? FMIC

Would it be for track or road? Both

Would you use the stock ecu or a stand alone? Stock Ecu to start with.

I would only be thinking 18psi to start with and then working my way up Torque is more important to me than highest HP figures.

[1320autos]

Cool choices, FMIC is nice but piping is a nightmare, would you retain the front rad or go for a custom one?

Who would ditch the air con or leave it in?

[Tüls]

The Twincharge vs the turbo only are almost identical over 4000 RPMs... the difference is that the power doesnt fall off up top with the turbo only.... Also.... the "dribble dribble" TQ is based on a run in 3rd from 2000 rpms... if you are driving like that... then yer doing it wrong LOL it's a four banger...

ultimately if you want gobs of low end TQ you are in the wrong car

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Torque is more important to me than highest HP figures.

[1320autos]

Oh man you didn't say go and buy a V8 Mustang................

[1320autos]

I'm wondering that in the Mini chassis whether tons of torque low down would be a good thing coming out of bends on the track.

Big Show was loosing time just with his mods, it defintley needs an quaife fitting to get the true potential out of it.

As well as the coil overs fitting because mine felt like my American motor home going round the bends.

[Tüls]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Oh man you didn't say go and buy a V8 Mustang................

ha ha bascially... cheap... merican TQ LOL.... just watch those corners! Oh and dont try to stop too fast LOL

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

I'm wondering that in the Mini chassis whether tons of torque low down would be a good thing coming out of bends on the track.

Big Show was loosing time just with his mods, it defintley needs an quaife fitting to get the true potential out of it.

As well as the coil overs fitting because mine felt like my American motor home going round the bends.

honestly if you are int he right gear coming out of the corner... it wouldnt matter from a TQ vs HP thing...

but if you are gunnah try and power out of the corner from 2k then sure....

Also, having 350+ FT lbs of TQ.... it's annoying in a FWD car... like when I tried to do the 30-70 mph... just spins... where as if I was in the "proper" gear for what I was trying to do... it wouldnt matter as much...

and finally having raced both... when I was racing hubie in the turbo only... I was making more HP and more tq.. but when we both down shifted and punched it... I couldn't catch him... cuase the turbo was so much more free flowing of an application...


of course you can always get a smaller sized turbo... and make lots of power still but maintain the TQ you just loose out on the big end...

[MINI-Morgan]

Depends what you call low end? I am thinking 3,000rpm not 1,200.

[1320autos]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Depends what you call low end? I am thinking 3,000rpm not 1,200.

Thats okay, if its laggy just spray it

[Tüls]

even still.. it's a 4 banger... get in the power.... the SC TQ isn't actually much better at 3000 for it to matter you are seeing the curve and thinking it's low... but it's relative... sure at 3000 the SC car might make 140 TQ and the Turbo car is at 100 TQ.. but by 4400 RPMs the Turbo TQ is now at 150 + and climing... where the SC car is falling off.... and the HP is taking over...

by 5000 the Turbo HP and TQ have exceeded 200 and still climbing... while the SC car is falling off in TQ and it's final HP will not be much greater than 160...

with a turbo only you could have down shifted... been in the power band and had more tq than you new what to do with...

granted.... with people like Paul and Jan making these UBER sc cars nowa days... it could be quite impressive... but since this is a turbo disscussion thread .... we'll leave that alone LOL

oh but add the stroker to the turbo only... oh yeah!

[r1_kde]

I have been working on designing a turbo set up for mine, I decided to go for a T28r. I am going to leave everything where it is. The TMIC will change to a charge cooler in place, I intend to keep the horns and produce a bypass for the blower. I will also continue to use the stock air box posistion.

I will be keeping the stock ecu, but for testing purposes I will throw on an old emanage to try a few settings. The turbo boost will be set at about 20psi to start with. as the car will be for the road and the odd track I will be keeping all equipment

Though I could very well be tempted to change to a purchased kit as producing the cast manifold is time consuming.


Any tips where the best place to take and return the oil?

[chuntington101]

Quote: Originally Posted by r1_kde (original)

I have been working on designing a turbo set up for mine, I decided to go for a T28r. I am going to leave everything where it is. The TMIC will change to a charge cooler in place, I intend to keep the horns and produce a bypass for the blower. I will also continue to use the stock air box posistion.

I will be keeping the stock ecu, but for testing purposes I will throw on an old emanage to try a few settings. The turbo boost will be set at about 20psi to start with. as the car will be for the road and the odd track I will be keeping all equipment

Though I could very well be tempted to change to a purchased kit as producing the cast manifold is time consuming.


Any tips where the best place to take and return the oil?

sounds like a great piece of kit. will you be bypassing the SC once the turbo is spooled?? i feel this is the best option and the best of both!

Chris.

[1320autos]

Quote: Originally Posted by r1_kde (original)

I have been working on designing a turbo set up for mine, I decided to go for a T28r. I am going to leave everything where it is. The TMIC will change to a charge cooler in place, I intend to keep the horns and produce a bypass for the blower. I will also continue to use the stock air box posistion.

I will be keeping the stock ecu, but for testing purposes I will throw on an old emanage to try a few settings. The turbo boost will be set at about 20psi to start with. as the car will be for the road and the odd track I will be keeping all equipment

Though I could very well be tempted to change to a purchased kit as producing the cast manifold is time consuming.


Any tips where the best place to take and return the oil?

Hubie runs the oil line to the sump drain plug

I knew there would be at least one person in the UK Here's the manifold we sell there has been 80 of these sold across the world originally desigend for a twincharge setup. they also work very well in a turbo only application as Tuls will testify.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/1320autos...00-500bhp.html

[Tüls]

:: country voice ::

yeeeees sir.... works good... reaaal gooood...


LOL