[lucachiarelli]

No way scott cant beleive your getting the air gain system. I wanted one but couldnt get hold of one. Make sure you get those sound clips done asap lol

[James]

thought that sounded a bit dodgy tbh, kind of like the sound foxes make at night....

[arvin]

Nah a proper quality baileys dump valve is so much nicer.. that sounds like a strangled cat lol.. crammy u got ur new car yet?

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original)

No way scott cant beleive your getting the air gain system. I wanted one but couldnt get hold of one. Make sure you get those sound clips done asap lol

It wont be fitted for a few weeks as they say it takes upto 5 hours but ive had most of my car apart and no the area were it gets fittedso im gunna say 3 hours. A cool video will be made so ill post up a new thread with the vid on youtube.

Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original)

thought that sounded a bit dodgy tbh, kind of like the sound foxes make at night....

I agree but i really doubt it will be that loud i reckon that the mic is under the bonnet in some cases on tha video.

If it sounds to loud i will be taking it off if its too annoying.

Quote: Originally Posted by arvin (original)

Nah a proper quality baileys dump valve is so much nicer.. that sounds like a strangled cat lol.. crammy u got ur new car yet?

I agree again, a dump vavle sounds nice on a car that looks the part but to spend thousands on a turbo conversion on a MINI One/Cooper is a waste of money IMO.

But then how many other cars are there at the MINI's price range that have a Blower.... Not many, So thats why the whine is sort after with us S owners. The people will think " what the hell has he done to that for the supercharger to sound like that" lol

[Richard Crofts]

It really is not worth blowing the ONE or Cooper, there are few reasons for this

1. The midland gearbox breaks as soon as you even wield a spanner near performance parts
2. The 5 speed Getrag is pretty much the same
3. The Cooper/ONE clutch etc is not very good
4. The engine internals of the Cooper/ONE are too weak to run any reasonable level of boost or tempreture for any length of time
5. The engine bay is not the easiest to work with
6. The costs of fitting and development for a low boost kit (to stop the gearbox and engine imploding), would be too high when compared to the level of power and reliability you could get
7. Insurance would be astronomical if you declared it, compared to the insurance on a stock Cooper S

[Richard Crofts]

Quote: Originally Posted by arvin (original)

nah ive already spilled 3+ grand on my cooper would be pointless getting an S with no aerokit.. unlowered..crappy wheels..back seats plus i love my car

Why not take all those things off the Cooper, return to stock, and buy an S the same colour?

[R56]

[IMG]file:///C:/Users/JONSCO%7E1/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-2.jpg[/IMG]Is this the little beasty

[arvin]

Mine just hit 10kmiles and its an 06 so its got the getrag box .. besides the gbox and clutch i wanna upgrade eventually anyway ... plus a low boost kit putting out 170hp isnt gonna blow up my engine unless i drive at the limiter for 20 minutes in 5th

[lucachiarelli]

Might sound like a stupid question but why are turbo cars reffered to as blown?

[MINIAC]

M7 no longer makes the AGS.

[Ant FR]

Quote: Originally Posted by arvin (original)

Mine just hit 10kmiles and its an 06 so its got the getrag box .. besides the gbox and clutch i wanna upgrade eventually anyway ... plus a low boost kit putting out 170hp isnt gonna blow up my engine unless i drive at the limiter for 20 minutes in 5th

Nope but gonna be a complete waste of time when the S is already 170 bhp at that age. oh and not forgetting double the rate of insurance than a standard S.

you'd be mad to do it.

[MINI-Morgan]

Dont nock them before someone has tried them.

Why not go down there or talk to Phil at autofasion about the turbo kits. Seems like a knowledgable guy.....



I like the MCT400 kit Even a change of pistons too for that one....

[Loui]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hartge210 (original)

Lovin my Whine

Some of the bodykits on there are a bit

Especially the 'Animal' (Pig springs to mind)

I remember seeing that pushed out a show as the kid flattened his battery playing his music, i felt sorry for him not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[arvin]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Dont nock them before someone has tried them.

Why not go down there or talk to Phil at autofasion about the turbo kits. Seems like a knowledgable guy.....



I like the MCT400 kit Even a change of pistons too for that one....

Thats the response i was lookin for lol,

Obviously a turbo conversion requires loads of testing and development and it looks like they know what theyre on about.. they say they havent had an engine failure to date, but id expect the gbox to go with the way i drive it

[arvin]

As on their website:

(b) If you can get it to work it will blow the engine..

The conversion we offer is a low boost conversion. The basic conversion boosts to very low levels and does not get the internals hot enough to melt pistons. The standard BMW ECU has excellent knock sensing (detects if the engine gets into a situation where it might get damaged) and retards the ignition a long time before damage become even remotely likely. This type of low boost conversion has been used since the 1960's in the USA as a normal part of modifying your car, and was fairly reliable in the time of carburettors. With the sophisticated engine management systems of today's cars, they are pretty much as reliable as any car on the market. The superbly strong BMW MINI engine is very reliable and can easily handle the extra power. It has strong pistons, rods, and crank, and the rings seal well against the bores. How many people do you know whom have managed to blow up one of these engines? How many people do you know whom have blown up any BMW engine on less than 200,000 miles? I don't. It's not scientific I know but it does show how reliable these engines are. This type on conversion has been used successfully for over 40 years - its not new.

[arvin]

Also :

(i) The Turbo will generate so much heat in the induction charge that it will melt or detonate the engine internals..

Due to the low boost operation of the Turbo, and very high efficiency of the turbo unit the induction charge temperature of the non-intercooled MCT170 conversion never exceeds the normal induction temperature of the intercooled supercharged Cooper S!!! That just shows how much better (more efficiant) a Turbo is than a supercharger.

[Ant FR]

Quote: Originally Posted by arvin (original)

How many people do you know whom have blown up any BMW engine on less than 200,000 miles? .

Are you kidding me.

What a load of baloni that statement is. First off the mini engine is not a BMW designed engine, so thats that little beauty out the window.

Secondly, quite a few BMW engines blow up. in fact my mates 540 V8 beemer went pop just a few weeks back and thats on 90k.

And lets not start on how many M3 engines go bang before 100k.

your money , if you want to do it go for it, but don't come crying on here when it goes pop just trying to keep up with a standard MCS

[Ant FR]

oh and datre i mention its non-intercooled. ......

the only thing i can think of is a couple of brothers a few years ago who had a uk No1 hit with a little song called:

Boom Boom Boom.


That will be your engine

[lucachiarelli]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

oh and datre i mention its non-intercooled. ......

the only thing i can think of is a couple of brothers a few years ago who had a uk No1 hit with a little song called:

Boom Boom Boom.


That will be your engine

lol. You sure your not a part time stand up?

[arvin]

what about the bit where they say that the internals never get hotter than those of the cooperS

and anyway my car has only recently hit 10k miles and if the engine did blow up at 100k i wouldnt complain about getting a rebuild

plus rather than getting a cooper S like every1 else why not be unique and have a turboed r50...