[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

Yeah but would that saxo 242bhp conversion seem as attractive if there was a standard Saxo ( for example Maxi) that came in the range with 242bhp. would you bother making one, no. especially if the 242bhp saxo could be had for nearly the same money as the standard VTS. You see my point.

its for this exact reason Lohen have sold virtually bugger all of their 150 conversions for the Cooper.

its not being negative, its being realistic.

Plus the MCS would provide so much scope on top too.

I can agree the MCS has far more scope on top. I'm just saying if someone wants a Cooper looking MINI with a turbo then if they are willing to spend the money then they should. Its all about how far they wants to go. If they are happy with 5psi boost and 150hp then I personally see it as a good option. If you want a turbo light car then the only other option is buy an MCS and take off the SC. Which is the best option if you want 300+HP.

If I had the choice I would have a 300HP Turbo Cooper lol! Now that is the stealth look.....

Whatever option needs to be properly research and see it actually running

[MINIMANIAUK]

The advantage of the mini one is its lower weight -and complexity - these are the things to emphasise reduce the weight further say 850 kg ish, increase red line to 10000,alter ratios -max say 110 , the extra bhp will come with the extra rpm , now there is no mega high BHP or torque but what a fun car to drive!!!!! which after all is what it is all about

[arvin]

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

Your 17..... "pay" £5,000-6,000 on insurance because you couldn't handle a standard cooper, let alone a turbo'd one.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...my-cooper.html

You've asked this and similar before, and you got the same answer leave it at that. The less people with no insurance and fast cars on the road the better.

thats harsh i had the accident 2 weeks after passing my test.. first time id driven in rain..
and im not uninsured if thats what your insisting

[arvin]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIMANIAUK (original)

The advantage of the mini one is its lower weight -and complexity - these are the things to emphasise reduce the weight further say 850 kg ish, increase red line to 10000,alter ratios -max say 110 , the extra bhp will come with the extra rpm , now there is no mega high BHP or torque but what a fun car to drive!!!!! which after all is what it is all about

So are you still offerring the conversion?

[arvin]

Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original)

You dont want the internals anywhere near as hot as a cooper s. Im sure the cooper s has stronger/more durable internals than a cooper.
No intercooler sounds very wrong.
On the other hand the mini is all about being unique and its your car so at the end of the day its up to you, but if you ask opinions your going to get some good and bad.
Good luck if you go ahead with it

ya good point.. but at low boost how bad can it be

[arvin]

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

It's all engine, engine, engine!! Speed, speed, speed!! Does it never occur that a car is built to cope with what it's born with, you could strap a baby to a supercharged pedal car and it would be one fast baby but it wouldn't be safe!

You'll need to think about much better brakes, better suspension, better diff, better gearbox, better clutch etc. Otherwise the car would be so unbalanced. Remember the Bentley engined Golf on topgear, great in a straight line but so bad on corners. Why else do you see cooper S owners with uprated cylinder heads, big brake kits etc when they have big BHP numbers????

It's such a stupid idea, it's a cool prospect don't get me wrong but you'd have to change so much. One word... moneypit.

If you pulled up next to me with a turbo'd cooper I'd wave goodbye and let you go, as if I'd trust driving alongside something like that, not only is it more likely to see something go pear shaped and take me with it, I can't see many people sub 25 who can actually afford to have full insurance on such a car.

lol i got a bmw mini.. not a ford ka with a 2.6 lump in it with drum brakes all round lol

id already thought of that.. if i do get the engine conversion then id get the works brake kit for definite aswell and ive already got stiffened suspension and more strut braces than fingers

you drive a mini anyway you know that theyre safe

also its not a stupid idea, your a stupid idea, id just rather not have an S

[Richard Crofts]

Well you'll need most of an S to make it survive IMO. Simplest way is to get the box and engine and ecu/bcu off a smashed up S and have the super removed and turbo fitted instead, then bolt into your Cooper.

Losts of money though on both the conversion and the insurance, when compared to leaving your cooper as is or PXing against a standard or JCW S