[Damo]

Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original)

Wow pretty shocked by this thread paul lol.
Dont think i'll get anywhere near him in a straight line as 507bhp is alot to tackle. Theres a vid on youtube where an m5 beats a gallardo rolling start from 30mph.
As for track id easily beat him as hes a crap driver lol.
The reason for looking at the s3 isnt mainly for power its for driveability and comfort also and there are some huge gains to be had from the vag lump for quite good money. As you know paul my car is pretty low so at every speed bump i s**t myself. When i go over a pothole the same thing. Also get paranoid on the motorway that i cant put my foot down for long periods of time in 5th and 6th due to all the WOT detonation stories. I dont like to speed on the motorway but like to toy with bigger cars now and again.
The mini has been the best car ive ever owned and always puts a smile on my face. I would like to go further with my car but the next stages are going to be very expensive.
I should try and get insured on the m5 but it will be way too expensive.
Who knows whats going to happen in 08.

Just drop it to 4th

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original)

In stock form its a very close call but with 330 bhp i think the times may change a little. My main goal isnt to get something quicker its to have an all rounder that is comfy for during the week and good for a blast at the weekend.
Dont think i would get insured with head, cams and other bits on my car. Im only 20 .
Maybe in a few years ill get a used cooper s for a reasonable price and get a full blown turbo crazy animal conversion weekend car, and a diesel for during the week. It all depends on how business goes.

You'd be suprised.... I looked at one in great detail! To beat an M5 in one you'd near somewhere near 400+bhp!

I'll lay it on the line.... an S3 is a Scooby! It looses its power in its drivetrain and weighs too much. 300kg extra if I remember correct so you will have worse handing and be slower. Only thing you will gain is a faster 0-60 due to the traction off the line......

[lucachiarelli]

My goal has nothing to do with beating my dads m5. I just really like the audi as its a good all rounder. 330 bhp is enough for me as i dont track or drag my cars. Ive had this mini for 2 1/2 years and had a cooper previously for 6 months.
Also the s3 will have around 330 lbs ft of torque which should help shift its weight around.
Im not definite on the s3 yet as there are lots of cars in that price range such as the new tt-s which has the same engine as the s3 but with a bit more power and a rear biased quattro 4x4 system like the rs4. Also like the bmw 335i coupe, nissan 350z, vw r32, scooby, evo new focus rs etc
Im going to test drive a few of these cars and whichever suits best will be the one.
I dont think i'll get a car with more character or grin factor than my mini gives. It would be perfect to tune the mini more and have it as a weekend car and get something quickish for during the week and for long trips, but money doesnt grow on trees, well not in darwen anyway. May move near to Lee (2much) as there must be plenty of money trees in his backyard lol

[James]

s3 is a very cool car, get it in orange or white

[lucachiarelli]

Ive just spoke to the audi dealer which is accross from the mini dealership LOL.
He put me off the s3 as there is a facelift out soonish for the a3 and the s3 will be facelifted later on. He thinks the tt s will be a better car as its a touch better performace wise than the s3 and way better looking. He emailed me some pics and i must agree its a very good looking car.
Think im going to drop him a deposit next week as hes only allocated 6 for this year. Official release isnt until late june.
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[Ant FR]

Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original)

Ive just spoke to the audi dealer which is accross from the mini dealership LOL.
He put me off the s3 as there is a facelift out soonish for the a3 and the s3 will be facelifted later on. He thinks the tt s will be a better car as its a touch better performace wise than the s3 and way better looking. He emailed me some pics and i must agree its a very good looking car.
Think im going to drop him a deposit next week as hes only allocated 6 for this year. Official release isnt until late june.
Audi TTS | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express

The RS TT is looking the best of the lineup, due to be first duel RS production model and will be out next year, as usually Audi only have one RS out at the same time as another.


Using a turbo charged version of the 3.6 V6 from the new Passatt R36. Being limited to 350bhp so as not to catch up with the R8

The TT is the better car, never really liekd the A3 as too bland overall. The only one i really like is the one a guy off Seatcupra.net has a twin turbo 2.0 tdi A3 .

Although you may also want to look at 135 beemer, easily being remapped to well over 400bhp,

[BigShow300]

The styling may not be your thing (it looks better in the flesh) but please go drive the 135i M-Sport first as the extra money you'll save on the TTS can be given to Birds who'll give you a diff and 360 bhp!!! That thing is seriously rapid!!!

You can't trade in one estate agents car for another :-)

[lucachiarelli]

I was thinking of the 135i as its a nice car. I prefer the tt though for the looks and when/if i get one there will be not many others on the road.
I would rather have the 335i coupe than the 135 as it only weighs 50 kg extra which is alot less than i thought and looks way better
I'll still have a go in the 135 just to see how it drives. Also booked in to have a blast with the new sti in feb.
Ive test drove loads of cars that i know im not going to buy just a bit of fun i suppose
I'll keep everyone updated anyway.

[BigShow300]

It's great to have that much choice for similar money... or you could go really crazy and get a Lotus Exige S but then you wouldn't have the comfy/sporty mix but your Dad wouldn't see which way you went on some twisty blacktop :-) Oh and one last suggestion, second hand Z4M Coupe...

Enjoy the test drives all the same mate... I think I might go for some myself :-)

[GTT 280]

well, i was able to match an M5 up to 60mph at the end of last week, i did not take my car up to full revs as it had only just been started, but he did not loose me from 10mph to 60 mph. and i was able to out brake and handle far better.

So it's the old age game of "quick in a straight line" or "quick in reality"

On track then M5 was way behind me !!! and as for the M3's ha ha ha ha.

Incidentally, when my car was warm and active, i kept paces with a Lambo Merch (same v10 engine) and for that one i have a witness

this is before the Stg 4 head AntFR

Cheers,
K.

[BigShow300]

Then I think I need the RMW head and gubbins because on the track on a long straight I could pull a lead on a Boxster but got rinsed by GT3, GT3 RS, M5 (500bhp version), Gallardo, R8, Exige S, Atom 260, Renault Clio Cup Racer, New M3, RS4...

Does the extra 40 bhp really give that much straight line grunt? I know what it felt like going from 181 bhp to 230 bhp, but does it literally feel like the same jump from 230 bhp to 270 bhp?

[1320autos]

Only one way to find out BigShow

Karl has it ever ocured to you that ypu're just a better driver and maybe have more confidence than those you trounced

Surely on paper your power to weight ratio is far less than a GT3 and M5

[lucachiarelli]

This is what i dont understand with karls car. On track i understand his car will be quicker than the m5 as its a big saloon weighing in at around 1700kg+ that isnt designed to go around a track fast. Also to 60 the mini will have the upper hand with enough power, as its very light and can shift its weight quick. The m5 on the other hand is a heavy rear wheel drive and to get 500+bhp rear drive car to get a good start isnt easy.
Another thing with the m5 is that it runs at 400bhp but with the switch of the M button it has 507bhp.
Maybe the guy you raced to 60 was running 400 as he thought 400 would be more than enough to shake off a mini. Doubt he knew yours was 270bhp+
There are other factors that m5 appeals. The main one is the sound of that v10 at 8000 rpm WOW!!! and the all round capability of it being able to drive to the nurburhrgring (spelt wrong) do a few flying laps and then drive back home with no problems. The car is also very comfortable with 5 people in and feels just as quick. I cant say that about my mini
Found a small vid of an m5 eating a 350 bhp sti which gets a much better start

YouTube - E60 M5 VS Subaru WRX STI ProDrive 350HP

This is the exhaust i wouldnt mind getting my dad for his 50th

YouTube - Evosport E60 M5 Meisterschaft Exhaust

[BigShow300]

I've had that Evosport M5 in my youtube fav's for a while now, it's the meanest M5 I've ever heard. However in my number 1 spot is this V10 monster... turn up them speakers!!!

YouTube - Carrera GT with Straight Pipes...

[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)

well, i was able to match an M5 up to 60mph at the end of last week, i did not take my car up to full revs as it had only just been started, but he did not loose me from 10mph to 60 mph. and i was able to out brake and handle far better.

So it's the old age game of "quick in a straight line" or "quick in reality"

On track then M5 was way behind me !!! and as for the M3's ha ha ha ha.

Incidentally, when my car was warm and active, i kept paces with a Lambo Merch (same v10 engine) and for that one i have a witness

this is before the Stg 4 head AntFR

Cheers,
K.

WOW
can't wait to see this beast on the dyno....
tell you what... go to 1320autos and tell Paul to send me the bill for the dyno time...
How can a guy resist that?
Cheers
jan

[lucachiarelli]

Bigshow that carrera sound amazing.
These are my top 2

YouTube - Golf R32 Racing exhaust (EugeR32)

YouTube - Mi lamborghini

[BigShow300]

We're taking over this thread with exhaust noises but its got your name on the thred so its allowed

That R32 was the nuts!!! Makes we want to buy one just to put that exhaust on it! And as much as I love the Countach I raise you an LP640 Capristo

YouTube - New Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 with...

Love this one too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDQJk5uHQ00&NR=...

[BigShow300]

Quote: Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works (original)

WOW
can't wait to see this beast on the dyno....
tell you what... go to 1320autos and tell Paul to send me the bill for the dyno time...
How can a guy resist that?
Cheers
jan

That is a good offer!

I'll bring my PerformanceBox too so you can blow away the current leader in our Power Run archive, a 300 bhp Celica GT4!

[lucachiarelli]

I'll see your lp640 capristo and raise you the worlds first twin turbo murcielago and an sti quad lol

YouTube - Doug Levin Motorsports Twin Turbo...

YouTube - STI ATV

[1320autos]

Sorry guys but a lack of real action in your videos;

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the tomato nationals at immokalee regioanal race way Jan19 20

Stock Suspension Class

RND 1 eliminations click on;

pass 3
pass 5
pass 9
pass 11

1/4 final eliminations

pass 2 (my homie Troy loosing a race because he crossed the center line)